32-bit float in Vegas 8

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Stephen Baldassarre

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Jan 9, 2013, 9:49:17 PM1/9/13
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Hello, I have a project where I need to go back & forth between Vegas 8 and Virtualdub.  With Vegas in 8-bit video mode, the frameserver works fine.  If I try to use 32-bit float, the output is scrambled no matter what.  The quality of the filters is awful in 8-bit mode and thus completely useless, so is there any way to make the frameserver work in 32-bit?

Thanks.

Frameservingisverygood

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Jan 10, 2013, 2:51:25 PM1/10/13
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Hello,

If I understand you say that when you export your footage with the 8bit option in Vegas it's awfull. But you say "filter is awful"; I don't understand what you mean.
I use it in this 8 bit mode and I have no issue.
In the past I tried the32 bit mode and the video was not useable (like you).

See you later...

Stephen Baldassarre

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Jan 10, 2013, 3:43:11 PM1/10/13
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More specifically, if I'm not doing any manipulation to the video, 8-bit mode is fine.  The issue comes from having to manipulate the video with plugins and the quality of said manipulation degrades noticeably in 8-bit mode vs. 32-bit float.  What I need to do right at the moment is restore some Super-8 footage.  It was shot at 18fps and since Vegas will only work on broadcast standard rates, I had the lab transfer the footage at 30fps, so the video is fast.  First, I have corrected some of the jitter through "Deshake" in Virtualdub.  I need to apply grain reduction in Vegas (Neat Video), try to pull some detail out of the shadows on some underexposed footage, then send the signal to Virtualdub to slow it down to 18fps and then convert back to 30fps.  I need to do the grain reduction before the frame rate conversion because it requires repeating frames and that interferes with the temporal filtering, which compares adjacent frames to help determine what's grain (which is random) and what's merely fine detail (which is static from frame to frame).

Frameservingisverygood

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Jan 13, 2013, 5:00:05 AM1/13/13
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Hello,

Well well, your work seems very difficult. To much processes on your video I think.
For my part I use Sony Vegas Pro 12 and I can use the frame rate 18 fps (or any fps I want). In the "Video Project Property"I have to write the value that I want if it's not present in the drop-down menu.
Try with your version.
For the other problem
I think it depends of your plug-ins and I don't work with these.
Sorry.

Stephen Baldassarre

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Jan 13, 2013, 11:00:17 AM1/13/13
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Hmm, I spent most of my editing days on Vegas 5, which didn't let me type in non-standard frame rates but it looks like 8 will.
The quality really is quite good when working in 32-bit mode, but it just falls apart in 8-bit.  It looks like I just need to not use frame serving with Vegas and keep rendering everything to multiple, massive, uncompressed intermediary files until Debugmode adds the ability to internally dither 32-bit float down to 8-bit integer.

Thank you for sharing your insight.
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