Microsoft's giving free serial keys ("Genuine")

[binaya raj]

Dear all,

I have been thinking about the recent activity of Microsoft giving
serial keys of windows 7, windows xp, and many other products to the
college students through their so called ELMS server or say msdna. I
guess it is trying to attract many of college students by providing
the genuine windows and other products. And I think some of those who
are trying to switch to the open source are getting pulled by the
"Genuine" Microsoft products. Also, many college labs are going to be
reinstalled with genuine OS of Microsoft.

In such situation, what can we do to increase the interest of students/
colleges to the open source? We don't want the labs with Linux OS
replaced with Genuine Microsoft OS. So, I wanted to drag everyone's
attention to this.


Regards,

Binaya Raj Shrestha

[अर्जुन अधिकारी]

This is really a serious counter...

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[Sulabh Bista]

Well Binaya,

I think the Universities and colleges can understand that Microsoft is a business oriented company. That means they also understand that every activity they are involved always has a strong business aspect. Also colleges and universities tend to follow open technologies and not be binded to any proprietary systems. So as long as the colleges and universities are conscious enough, Microsoft wont be a big problem.

But if the college administration cannot or does not want to see through all these, then the conscious students must make them aware that Microsoft just wants to suck away money from their students and do nothing more. Also, it is to be mentioned clearly that students should focus on learning new technology and not learning about some specific new product.

The best stance would be constant exposure of students to open source by holding various training and advocacy campaigns. If the students find the knowledge of open technology a worthy asset, they would themselves demand that open systems be installed on their lab computers and not some proprietary systems.

Regards,

Sulabh Bista

On Sun, Dec 6, 2009 at 10:20 PM, binaya raj <bine...@gmail.com> wrote:

[♪♫▬aze]

What really happens>

>Brain dead prof. want summit assignment, projects, presentation to run in their Windows machine.

>Even if there is the Linux install in computer lab they are never updated. The version synchronization goes wrong. But Windows is best since updates pop up when there is no loadsheding for a week.

>Administrators loves windows coz
            problem problem
                     Need to fix
                           job job
                                return more more money
(administrators loves to show there skills removing virus in windows).

*Note have you seen any windows version running smoothly without problems.

>All Non Technical Head Diplomats Take decision of these installing OS where Microsoft pops up and Even the Good Administrator can't do any thing just to sit back in server room enjoying his Linux machine.

>Institutes has lots of money to buy the branded computers.. (I guess they got one free computer for their kid offer is so good they can't reject) and Microsoft loves Brand coz since its one of it. (how can something hate its own kind).

>I guess it never ends shit loadshitting now time to turn off the computer...
Geez :)

[Abhudaya Sagar]

kati din po free dela tesle. Pachi aukat ma ai halcha ni.
ani we should promote genuine software as well.

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--- On Mon, 12/7/09, Abhudaya Sagar <conne...@gmail.com> wrote:

[Bipin Gautam]

Guys, do you think politics is good in college?

If politics should exist in college for "common good" then I encourage
you all to be biased, promote FOSS Philosophy in college labs from
student council, well... if you guys are serious about fixing things
for long run.......

You will have nothing much to take, if you woven your engineering and
computer science knowledge around a "closed source" solution.

Technology is NOT a "gentleman's business" unless its OSS so any
proprity solution and should be taken accordingly. End of the day
business seek profit by making you "vendor dependent" from grass-root.
Game over!

I want Microsoft out of my country because like a disease, it locks
its customers into propriety solution and makes sure it holds its grip
like a leach. It also lets a foreign government (Hint?) spy on our ICT
assets and national secrets indefinitely and unrestrictedly.

This is not an allegation, Microsoft facilitates a foreign government
for global surveillance.

Personally, I dont want my countries IT to be a “hostage” of a
propriety vendor when there is equally compelling and free alternate
available. How do you want our national ICT ecosystem to grow in the
next 10 years ? A vendor dependent, insecure by DESIGN?

thanks,
-bipin

ps: I am a researcher in "Cyber Warfare" and Microsoft is EVIL.

[Abhudaya Sagar]

+1 for that.

[♪♫▬aze]

More.. What really happens....

>"Politics should exist Common good". Seem the line from some fairly tale, But have u ever seen nice politician (even he is nice he is screwed by others). Damn its sad to say Nepalese got it directly form out government (No doubt about it).

>Why Linux Guys are not Politician
My personal thought Linux is for peace why to fight??
Linux guys Don't like Politics they love to share and care and flourish forever. No hate, no guilt, Nothing Bad... gezz i'm out of words

So so No Good guys are in politics

>Damn about us to for eg. me writing the shit things not learning some thing cool. ( he he ) I shout a lot and do little damn it took almost 2 years to completely migrate to Linux...

>I know some of Linux buddies wanna kill Microsoft right away...
But my view is different....

Bad guys
Must
Exist
For
Good guys to be recognized... yee ye


(*Many would remember Yin-Yang)
Linux guys will loose their value if every one uses linux ... so ... let those dumb brain-dead buddies use windows why not inside Linux itself....
I am damn sure Linux would have never reached the height without Close source community (Especally thanks the Microsoft)

So Just THANK THEM AND THEY ARE YOUR BAD FRIENDS (frienemies).

>What the Hell we got to hide... we haven't done any thing wrong....
let them surveillance... who the hell cares... Good Guy are Always good.

>One more thing....
We can warn but can't take babysit around..
We have Much useful work to do....

[Bipin Gautam]

aze the.numb, you are full of shit, you know?

>What the Hell we got to hide... we haven't done any thing wrong....
>let them surveillance... who the hell cares... Good Guy are Always good.

Now stop acting like a traitor. Serious topic here!

Foreign government spying your government ?

Business play the "irregular warfare" game and uses your "honesty" as
a "strategic advantage" and limit you to just play the honest
push-push game while they use everything in their disposal to get
things done! Does that make sense to you ?

In their marketing, gaining your trust is never a moral issue, it is a
strategic one and always manipulative.

Check this, written by someone i know.

http://209.85.229.132/search?q=cache:WUTRG8T9nP4J:www.marketingprofs.com/3
/maher2.asp+Frog+Soup+And+The+Mental+Commons
...
In case you haven't heard, there's a marvelously civilized—even
polite—way to boil a frog to death.

Don't start with a rolling boil, either. After all, we are not
savages. As fellow democrats (lower-case d) and marketers, we want the
frog to cooperate. Putting it in Amway terms: We want to share an
opportunity with the frog.

You place the happy little frog into a pot of slightly warm water.
Then, degree by degree, you gradually turn up the heat. The frog won't
ever turn frantic or try to clamber out. He'll be seemingly content
right up to the moment of his death.

For the purposes of this article, the pot of water is the
“mediasphere” or (what others have called) the “mental commons:” The
public spaces, radio and television airwaves, phone lines, Web,
magazines. These are the venues that immerse us in ever-more-harsh
marketing messages from cradle to grave.

And we are the frogs. By and large, we are happy little frogs.
.......................

On 12/7/09, ♪♫▬aze <the....@gmail.com> wrote:
> More.. What really happens....
>
>>"Politics should exist Common good". Seem the line from some fairly tale,
> But have u ever seen nice politician (even he is nice he is screwed by
> others). Damn its sad to say Nepalese got it directly form out government
> (No doubt about it).
>
>>Why Linux Guys are not Politician
> My personal thought Linux is for peace why to fight??
> Linux guys Don't like Politics they love to share and care and flourish
> forever. No hate, no guilt, Nothing Bad... gezz i'm out of words
>
> So so No Good guys are in politics
>
>>Damn about us to for eg. me writing the shit things not learning some thing
> cool. ( he he ) I shout a lot and do little damn it took almost 2 years to
> completely migrate to Linux...
>
>>I know some of Linux buddies wanna kill Microsoft right away...
> But my view is different....
>

> *Bad guys
> Must
> Exist
> For
> Good guys to be recognized... yee ye*

>
>
> (*Many would remember Yin-Yang)
> Linux guys will loose their value if every one uses linux ... so ... let
> those dumb brain-dead buddies use windows why not inside Linux itself....
> I am damn sure Linux would have never reached the height without Close
> source community (Especally thanks the Microsoft)
>
> So Just THANK THEM AND THEY ARE YOUR BAD FRIENDS (frienemies).
>
>>What the Hell we got to hide... we haven't done any thing wrong....
> let them surveillance... who the hell cares... Good Guy are Always good.
>
>>One more thing....
> We can warn but can't take babysit around..
> We have Much useful work to do....
>

[♪♫▬aze]

buddy its my personal thought ... geez on top its the joke....
why so serious chill off...

even though we r in war not chance we r going to win head to head..

2009/12/7 Bipin Gautam <bipin....@gmail.com>

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nice! :)

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[Babins Shrestha]

lol

[Sunil Shrestha]

It is not compultion to use and dependent on Microsoft Product we can use it for learning purpose site by side, one most important thing is we should not be dependent on Microsoft.

 

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[Abhudaya Sagar]

yes that is the main thing.
+1

[_khAttAm_]

On Dec 9, 7:55 am, Sunil Shrestha <tosunil...@gmail.com> wrote:
> It is not compultion to use and dependent on Microsoft Product we can use it
> for learning purpose site by side

I disagree with that. What do you want to learn on that platform? You
will have a hard time de-learning things if you choose to move to any
other platforms. They do not follow standards and always insert their
part of shitty lockware (which is used to lock users to their
platforms, they call it additional feature) and if you get used to it,
you are locked in the platform.

If you create a really wonderful piece of software in M$ Platform, you
will have a hard time porting it to other platforms (even when you
have so many users wanting to use it on alternate platforms). Ask
Adobe and Google.

So, the best bet is "DO NOT USE their products AT ALL".

Just my views. Correct me if I'm wrong.

[amit shrestha]

On Wed, Dec 16, 2009 at 5:21 PM, _khAttAm_ <kha...@khattam.info> wrote:

On Dec 9, 7:55 am, Sunil Shrestha <tosunil...@gmail.com> wrote:
> It is not compultion to use and dependent on Microsoft Product we can use it
> for learning purpose site by side

I disagree with that. What do you want to learn on that platform? You
will have a hard time de-learning things if you choose to move to any
other platforms. They do not follow standards and always insert their
part of shitty lockware (which is used to lock users to their
platforms, they call it additional feature) and if you get used to it,
you are locked in the platform.

If you create a really wonderful piece of software in M$ Platform, you
will have a hard time porting it to other platforms (even when you
have so many users wanting to use it on alternate platforms). Ask
Adobe and Google.

[i do'nt think so..it used to be so in old days.. with things like java virtual machines, adobe air run time few examples to say,,i can make software in linux platform that runs in M$ platform and vice verse as well.. ]

So, the best bet is "DO NOT USE their products AT ALL".

 

[if it was so then may opensource products would not have binaries for windows platform.. it's business we just have to bear them]

 

Just my views. Correct me if I'm wrong.

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Its not possible to make all programs at JVM. Its the code which runs
on top of the JVM not system.. and turns out to be resource greedy.
High Performance programs have no choice but to go back to C/C++.

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[Abhudaya Sagar]

+1 on that.
System banooda libraray file ko paiso magcha yar windows le and even in c lang too.
So i better like linux for programming coz it is open and cook on your own with all needed stuffs.

[Nilambar Sharma]

a question for FOSS lovers ;)
In which year we can see Linux version of Windows or Windowbuntu?

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[Akash Deep Shakya]

Nilambar, as soon as you finish writing its crapy code :P j/k

I am very much sure we don't need anything as such....

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[_khAttAm_]

> [i do'nt think so..it used to be so in old days.. with things like java
> virtual machines, adobe air run time few examples to say,,i can make
> software in linux platform that runs in M$ platform and vice verse as well..
> ]

@amit
The fact that Java applications (or adobe air or .NET or whatever) run
on multi-platform does not necessarily encourage you to use
properitrary software for its development or the environment.
If you use Windows for development of Java Applications, you may well
want to try out J# or use some vendor-locked libraries. Then you are
trapped once again.
So, i still think the best is "STAY AWAY".
Well, if you have already been trapped, better try to get out.. the
sooner the better... However, if you are a starter, do not start there.

[_khAttAm_]

On Dec 24, 9:16 am, Nilambar Sharma <nilamba...@gmail.com> wrote:
> a question for FOSS lovers ;)
> In which year we can see Linux version of Windows or Windowbuntu?

I hope that was meant to be sarcastic.

Yes, ubuntu tries to mimic Windows in one way or the other, to reach
the early migrators. But it still is different. Moreover, you need not
stay with what Cannonical provides.. you can customize it in various
ways.