Re: [MapKathmandu] Potential solution for missing street names

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Prabhas Pokharel

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Sep 24, 2012, 9:56:56 AM9/24/12
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Incredible work everyone.. the level of detail looks amazing.

Re: names... do the more institutionally connected mappers among us have any thoughts? Nama ji? Anil ji?

On Sat, Sep 22, 2012 at 4:08 PM, Aashish Tripathee <hello...@aashishtripathee.com> wrote:
I'm really surprised that there are streets without names. Naming it ourselves might not be such a bad idea in my opinion but we need to get the people living around there use the same name. If we're successful at doing that, even if the government keeps the names later on, they'll be bound to keep the names we've kept. (Whoa! )

So, perhaps the challenge is getting people to use the same name that we keep because if we keep Aashish Marga somewhere around in Baneshwor (just an example) but if it's around in just OSM, that won't be useful to anyone at all. Names in OSM must be in-sync with what people use/are used to with. Just my opinion though!



On Sun, Sep 23, 2012 at 1:44 AM, Rajeev Amatya <rajeev...@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi guys, 
We have completed most of our comprehensive mapping in Tinkune-Koteshwor area. Please have a look here:

We will probably finish up with polygons/houses next week. The house polygons are only experimental and we will not spend time on it for other regions. We will now move west to Sankhamul area. 

We have also tried putting few house names in the map to get an idea about how they are numbered. Seems like they are numbered by taking a distance from a fixed reference point, which I think is not a bad way to go in Kathmandu. While most of this region had street names, I am pretty sure most regions in Lalitpur and Bhaktapur do not have the names. We are adding most of the street names right now from the project that the govt and the EU did some 10 years ago. 

So, we wanted to start this discussion on how to tackle this issue and whether it is even possible to fix this problem. Is it a good idea to give names ourselves without approval from the govt? The government probably is not gonna do much in the next five years. 

Let us know if you have any thoughts on this.

Rajeev

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Nama Budhathoki

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Sep 24, 2012, 8:19:08 PM9/24/12
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Naming streets is an essential but challenging task for us. It might be difficult to generate consensus even at the local level: some might want to use the name of the political leader from the party they are affiliated to; others might prefer to use names reflecting history/culture etc. So it is more than mapping:)

I will try to talk to couple of people if they any suggestion from their past experience naming the streets in Kathmandu.

Cheers,

Nama



 




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kapil nakhwa

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Sep 24, 2012, 11:44:50 PM9/24/12
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Hi guys,

I appreciate the work you guys are doing. But you guys re reminding me of the day when we tried naming the streets on our community. Here is the expperience of how we as a company tried giving something back to the community http://blog.cloudfactory.com/2012/01/crowdsourcing-the-street-names.html

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Sep 25, 2012, 4:02:32 AM9/25/12
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@Kapil, few question, how did u guys come up with the street names? AFAIK most steets in Lalitpur area do not have official names, and most of the are locally community agreed names. I'd love to hear what you guys did there. 

Also, after around 8 months, the names you guys gave, are they popular among the locals?
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Sep 25, 2012, 4:03:25 AM9/25/12
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@Kapil, if you guys have some time, the Bhaisepati area could look a lot better in OSM :) http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=27.65222&lon=85.30421&zoom=17&layers=M

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On Tue, Sep 25, 2012 at 5:44 AM, kapil nakhwa <kapil...@gmail.com> wrote:

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We had initially prepared a list of proposed names by ourselves mostly were taken from list of mountains we have in our country, However we soon found out that people had already been using some local names for their streets. Thus our teams approached every single house in the streets and took votes for the local names. whichever was agreed upon by at-least 25% we named it so.
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