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Subject: Re: Getting logged out of applications using Fluid (SSBs)/Webkit
From: Benjamin Stein <benst...@gmail.com>
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On Dec 31 2008, 8:02=A0pm, todd.ditchend...@gmail.com wrote:
> i've done some testing on a machine running OS X 10.5.5 with Safari
> 3.2.1 (the exact same build of safari i have tested on 10.5.6 which i
> believe is the very latest public release of safari).
> I *cannot* reproduce the strange behavior on 10.5.5 using either
> Shiira or a Fluid 0.9.5 SSB.
> If I had to guess, I would say this is a new problem in CFNetwork
> (which webkit uses for http networking/cookies) shipping with 10.5.6.
> AFAICT, the issue is not present in 10.5.5. However, I do not have
> conclusive evidence of that. (one should always keep in mind that most
> systems have many extensions and applications installed, and should
> never be too quick to point fingers... different apps/plugins/
> extensions can interact in surprising ways).
> now I'm going to work on a bug report for apple including all this
> info. i kinda doubt this will be news to them tho.
> On Dec 31, 11:54=A0am, todd.ditchend...@gmail.com wrote:
> > thanks for the details ben. i rarely use safari, so other than the
> > notes from you guys here, I cant tell when this began, but it sounds
> > like its prolly a 10.5.6/3.2.1 issue.
> > i'm working on a bug for apple (i like to be thorough).
> > td
> > On Dec 30, 9:03=A0pm, Benjamin Stein <benst...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > Yes, it started happening to me as soon as I upgraded to 10.5.6. =A0I
> > > also upgraded to Safari 3.2.1 (5525.27.1) in the same system update,
> > > so I can't confirm if it's one or the other.
> > > Just some more notes, in case it's helpful:
> > > I do get the logout problem in Facebook, but I'm also getting strange
> > > Gmail functionality. =A0After some period of time, it appears to thin=
> > > 60 seconds" message). =A0And then other times Gmail.app just displays
> > > "Bad Request Error 400". =A0I need to restart the app (reload or new
> > > window doesn't help). =A0This started happening right after my update=
> > > so I can only conclude it's just a different manifestation of the sam=
> > > problem.
> > > HTH,
> > > --Ben
> > > On Dec 30, 11:03=A0pm, todd.ditchend...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > > Update folks:
> > > > I have been able to reproduce this same behavior using other webkit=
> > > > based applications on two separate macs. Specifically NetNewsWire a=
> > > > Shiira. Both NNW and Shiira use the WebKit located on your system.
> > > > just like Fluid. I *cannot* reproduce this in OmniWeb which ships w=
> > > > its *own*, private (presumably custom) WebKit framework.
> > > > In other words, this behavior is *not* specific to Fluid SSBs, but
> > > > rather seems to be affecting any WebKit-based application that uses
> > > > the WebKit framework already located on your system.
> > > > As soon as you perform some network activity in one of these apps, =
> > > > seems to clobber cookie changes you've made in safari. (note launch=
> > > > the app is not enough. you have to do something that performs a
> > > > network request... looks like ajax or traditional http requests bot=
> > > > do the trick). I even used HTTPScoop.app to confirm this. It happen=
> > > > immediately after a silent/background ajax request.
> > > > So if this is a bug (and it seems like it probably is), its looking
> > > > like a bug in WebKit. I'm not sure if this behavior is new to 10.5.=
> > > > or some specific version of WebKit, but I dont recall seeing or
> > > > hearing about this before... plz correct me on that if i'm wrong.