[FLEx] RE: Keyman and discourse chart

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Dan M (SAG)

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Sep 20, 2008, 9:41:13 AM9/20/08
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Patrick, yes, I get some weird behavior there too, both from Flex and Keyman.

 

What Flex seems to do is remember the last non-English language I've used in the Notes field, and set it to that the next time I come back to the field, even if I’ve since used English in that field.

 

Keyman, for its part, is failing to track that language change.  Keyman doesn’t activate the keyboard, though sometimes the icon shows as if it has.  This problem is inconsistent, and sometimes it seemed to be such that I could not force Keyman on at all, though I usually can.  I must be doing something wrong, but I can’t figure out what.  (Sometimes you just need to replace the user.)

 

By the way, InKey (a Keyman replacement; It’s development is a project of NLCI) correctly tracked the language change, at least on my machine.  If you’d be interested in trying it on your system, and seeing whether that at least solves the keyboard-side of the problem, let me know at d...@sall.com

 

Dan

 

On Fri, 19 Sep 2008 17:38:06 +0300

 "Patrick Rietveld" <Patrick_...@sil.org> wrote:

>

> Hi all,

>

>

> Today I was working with the discourse tool in Fieldworks and discovered

> that I couldn't use Keyman in the chart tab. I can use it in the baseline. I

> wanted write a note and to quote a word from the vernacular. But Keyman

> didn't work.

>

>

> Has anyone of you encountered the same problem? And if so, could you solve

> it?

>

>

> Patrick Rietveld

>

> Tanzania

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>

 

Marc Durdin (Tavultesoft)

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Sep 26, 2008, 8:27:36 AM9/26/08
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Dan, Patrick, which version of Keyman are you using? Do you know if
you are using the Text Services Framework addin?

Marc Durdin
Tavultesoft Pty Ltd

On Sep 20, 11:41 pm, "Dan M \(SAG\)" <d...@sall.com> wrote:
> Patrick, yes, I get some weird behavior there too, both from Flex and
> Keyman.
>
> What Flex seems to do is remember the last non-English language I've used in
> the Notes field, and set it to that the next time I come back to the field,
> even if I've since used English in that field.
>
> Keyman, for its part, is failing to track that language change.  Keyman
> doesn't activate the keyboard, though sometimes the icon shows as if it has.
> This problem is inconsistent, and sometimes it seemed to be such that I
> could not force Keyman on at all, though I usually can.  I must be doing
> something wrong, but I can't figure out what.  (Sometimes you just need to
> replace the user.)
>
> By the way, InKey (a Keyman replacement; It's development is a project of
> NLCI) correctly tracked the language change, at least on my machine.  If
> you'd be interested in trying it on your system, and seeing whether that at
> least solves the keyboard-side of the problem, let me know at d...@sall.com.
>
> Dan
>
> On Fri, 19 Sep 2008 17:38:06 +0300
>

Beth B

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Sep 30, 2008, 6:42:50 PM9/30/08
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I was testing this just now and got a few different kinds of things
going on.

First, off, how were you changing the language for the notes field?
It's important to use the Writing System combo box that's at the top
of the FLEx window. That way FLEx can track what language different
strings are in. It uses that information for spell checking,
constraining filters and searches, and a variety of other things.
(This is true in any field that you can embed different writing
systems into).

What I found was:

- Initially I was able to change the language using the WS combo
just fine, and Keyman changed with it.
- Then for a different language, the WS combo's arrow was grayed
out, and I couldn't change it. I clicked into the notes field and
then back to the combo, and eventually it came back on, and I could
change it.
- Once I changed it with the combo and Keyman tracked, but when I
started typing, it switched back to English.

I don't think I actually saw a time when I could change the combo
(and it stayed changed) but Keyman didn't bring the right keyboard.
But Dan says he saw that, so that must be another possibility.

Anyway, just wanted to report what I found. This will get recorded
in the bug database.

-Beth

Susanna

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Oct 8, 2008, 1:03:59 PM10/8/08
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The Notes column is losing focus if the pointer is moved over other
columns in the chart, even if the cursor is in the Notes column.
This is especially problematic if you are trying to change the writing
system using the chooser on the toolbar. Move the pointer directly
upwards to the toolbar, avoiding passing over other columns in the
chart. Then, the writing system chooser remains enabled so you can
successfully change the writing system.
I think the Notes column is defaulting to the default Analysis writing
system (in my case, English).
-Susanna

Thapelo Otlogetswe

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Oct 9, 2008, 6:59:39 AM10/9/08
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I wonder if someone can assists with certain fonts which I have a feeling shouldn't be that hard to deal with (except for me).
 
1. I wish to make the entries of words with vowels that have a circumflex (both ê and ô) and an s with a caron (š). How do I program my keyboard to enter these letters into Fieldworks? 
 
2. I have a laptop running on Vista (Office 2007) and an XP (Office 2003) desktop. I have found out that the character maps in the two machines are not the same. The chaacter map on the Vista machine has more characters than the one on XP computer. Is there a way of copying a character map from one machine to another so that characters entered with a Vista machine can show on the XP computer? Or is it possible to download a character map with similar characters as the ones on my Vista machine?
 
Regards
Thapelo

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