Inflection features

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SarahW

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Oct 10, 2008, 7:49:57 AM10/10/08
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The language I'm working with has lots of noun classes, and I used
inflection features to set up prefixes and roots to belong to each
relevant class.
e.g. e-yen "dog" pi-yen "dogs" (CL2);
pi-teen "pirogue" niteen "pirogues" (CL6)
as well as an affix template for nouns [cl-STEM].

Using the prediction feature (or whatever it's called; not the
"proper" parser because that takes forever to load up, but just the
one where you type a hyphen between morphemes and it suggests
something in an orange box) it came out with "pi-yen" as 'CL2-
verb' [the root 'yen' also means "sit"] and give me the option of 'CL6-
dog' alongside the others. Regardless of the fact that I haven't set
up verb affix templates yet, shouldn't what I've done be sufficient to
rule these out? I thought inflection features were about excluding
anything that doesn't fit in, precisely so that we don't have to have
a separate affix template for each noun class...

Or is the problem simply that I have to use the real parser for these
to come into play?

Beth B

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Oct 10, 2008, 9:13:26 AM10/10/08
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On Oct 10, 2008, at 7:49 PM, SarahW wrote:

> Or is the problem simply that I have to use the real parser for these
> to come into play?

Yes.

Everything about templates and features and environments are all for
the automatic parser. When it makes guesses, those are shown in
orange/tan.

The other one (what I call the "manual parser", but that's not the
correct term either) can only deal with complete words that you have
already analyzed. When it sees something you have analyzed before,
it presents any of the analyses that you have provided in the past.
These guesses are blue.

If there are blue guesses coming up that are invalid, you can go to
the Word Analyses area to see what analyses are associated with each
word, and you can delete ones that are invalid, or you can mark them
as "disapproved". To get there quickly, you can right-click on a
word and choose "Show in Word Analyses".

-Beth


Eric & Susanne Johnson

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Oct 17, 2008, 5:32:15 AM10/17/08
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Is there a check box in options somewhere to allow FLEx to automatically
create error reports? Whenever I get an error, the radio button that is
labeled "send an email filled with this information" is grayed out and
my only choice is "copy this info to the clipboard and I will send a
message myself." I would like to have it automatically send the error
messages.

Eric

Eric & Susanne Johnson

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Oct 17, 2008, 7:54:27 AM10/17/08
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While I'm asking FLEx questions, is there a way to get a count of
lexical entries in my database?

Eric

Jonathan

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Oct 17, 2008, 10:07:45 AM10/17/08
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On the lower right hand corner there is a number that looks like
"22/350". this is the number of the entry that you are on out of the
total number (if unfiltered) of entries.

On Oct 17, 4:54 pm, Eric & Susanne Johnson <Eric-

Jonathan

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Oct 17, 2008, 10:13:45 AM10/17/08
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No.

On Oct 17, 2:32 pm, Eric & Susanne Johnson <Eric-

John_W...@sil.org

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Oct 17, 2008, 11:20:58 AM10/17/08
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We wanted to make this automatic, but found that we weren't able to send the message reliably. Depending on the email client being used, it would be truncated at different maximum lengths. So, we went with the manual process.

Hopefully, people won't see this dialog often enough to make this a burden.

John Wickberg
TE Project Manager

John_T...@sil.org

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Oct 17, 2008, 11:29:07 AM10/17/08
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> > Is there a check box in options somewhere to allow FLEx to
automatically
> > create error reports? Whenever I get an error, the radio button that
is
> > labeled "send an email filled with this information" is grayed out and
> > my only choice is "copy this info to the clipboard and I will send a
> > message myself." I would like to have it automatically send the error
> > messages.
> >
>
> We wanted to make this automatic, but found that we weren't able to
> send the message reliably. Depending on the email client being used,
> it would be truncated at different maximum lengths. So, we went with
> the manual process.
>
Another factor is that programs directly sending emails is one of the main
ways viruses propagate. As a result Microsoft and others tend to make
changes to try to prevent programs from sending emails without your
knowledge. These changes have a great tendency to break the sort of
mechanism you want. So even if we could make something that worked well now
with most commonly-used email programs, it might not work in a few months.

John Thomson

Hatton

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Oct 18, 2008, 2:22:55 AM10/18/08
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> We wanted to make this automatic, but found that we weren't able to send
> the message reliably. Depending on the email client being used, it would
> be truncated at different maximum lengths. So, we went with the manual
> process.

Johns, it is doable, and is provided in the latest incarnation of this
dialog, which you can get from http://code.wesay.org/Palaso/trunk/Palaso/Reporting/.
I just didn't know how to do it when I wrote the FLEx version.

Outlook, for one, does not attempt to stop it, rather it ask the user
"is this really you trying to send this email?" and makes the user
look at the question for a number of seconds before allowing you to
click "yes". I think that's a solution to the security problem that
won't change; it's very robust. It also works with all the other email
clients we've tried.

John

Jonathan

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Oct 18, 2008, 3:20:04 AM10/18/08
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Have you tried/tested it with GoogleChrome's email app?

On Oct 18, 11:22 am, Hatton <hattonli...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > We wanted to make this automatic, but found that we weren't able to send
> > the message reliably. Depending on the email client being used, it would
> > be truncated at different maximum lengths. So, we went with the manual
> > process.
>
> Johns, it is doable, and is provided in the latest incarnation of this
> dialog, which you can get fromhttp://code.wesay.org/Palaso/trunk/Palaso/Reporting/.
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