Usage count of words in lexicon / dictionary view?

[Arjan]

Is there a way to display the number of times a word (lexeme form,
variant) is used in analyses ? Basically the "... is being used X
times by analyses" count that is displayed when deleting an entry.

The idea is to get an overview in the dictionary of how common a form
actually is in the texts analyzed.

[Gordon]

Texts & Words -> Word Analyses usually has a Number in Corpus column
in the browse view. Is this what you're looking for?
Gordon

[Arjan]

Thanks for your reply.

The Number in Corpus column isn't what I'm looking for, as it refers to the occurrence of a particular orthographic word form (including e.g. case suffixes). I'm looking for the number of times a lexeme form / morpheme (as it appears in Lexicon, Dictionary view) is used in analyses, so for example the number of times a particular verb root is used in analyses of (various) orthographic word forms in the corpus.

When you delete an entry from the Lexicon, the number of times it is used in analyses is shown, and I'm looking for a way to include this number in the Dictionary view.

This would give an indication of how common the morphemes actually are (I'd want to have this for variants as well).

The purpose is to be able to distinguish the more common morphemes from those with a very low occurrence, because we can be less sure about the analysis and usage pattern of the latter.

[Martin Zaske]

Dear Arjan,

I like your question. We are just starting a local dictionary
working-group and I would like to start our work with the most-uncommon
(!) words, because our dictionary is reflecting all published documents.
We do not worry about entries which have been printed dozens of times
(and never triggered protests). But we would like confirmation for the
"new" entries which have come up only a few times.

Please keep me posted if you find out more. If answers come up on the
list, no need to write, I will see them. Or you could consider posting
the solution to all the list.

Martin

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[Martin Zaske]

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Dear all,

I like Flex a lot and we are generally doing fine. Today I was doing
some exports for my wife, something I wanted to do quickly to get back
to my own work.

Today was one time too many that the mouse wheel drove me "crazy". Is
this normal? Is this the way intended by the developers, or have I
configured something wrongly:

We are working a lot with "Texts & Words" in the "Word Analysis" view.
We are seeing long lists with thousands of entries depending on
filtering. In any other program on my computer the mouse wheel will
either scroll up or down or (if I so configure or if I press another
key) will zoom in or out.

In Flex the mouse wheel keeps grabbing the focus on the column "spelling
status" and when I wheel (sorry, it is just so natural) nothing happens.
In reality of course I have (again) changed some spelling status from
"correct" to any other status. Often I catch it, often I do not catch
it. Often I have a filter active which only shows correctly spelled
entries. And when I unwillingly change the spelling status of an entry,
depending on circumstances, the entry might even disappear from my
screen and then the error stays undetected and uncorrected.

- - Do you know this problem too?

- - Is it a problem or a feature? Am I too narrow minded expecting the
mouse wheel to be most useful for scrolling?

- - Can I configure it for Flex (found nothing in help)? Can I at least
dis-activate the wheel for Flex (maybe at Win 7 level)?

- - Are the developers interested in this kind of feedback? Hi, if you are
"old school" you might not have a mouse, right? :) Please try using(!)
Flex for several hours without a mouse, entering texts and parsing and
making and filling lexical entries. I would prefer that a lot. I tried
hard and I found many tricks but Flex is sadly not ready to be worked
without a mouse. (That should maybe be another thread.)

- - Is there a quick fix which will not force me to change my setup
entirely. I spend many hours on Flex and there is potentially a user who
will write "just remove the spelling status column from your screen".
Well, I could do that (I do not want to) but the programming just does
not "feel right":

Try it. Have your word analysis the way you like it. Include spelling
status. Put that column anywhere you like. Now click on any entry (click
not even into the column for spelling status but maybe into "form" or
"gloss"). Still the focus will go to the spelling status. And even if
you just happily scrolled up and down a moment ago: No more scrolling,
just changing spelling status up or down.

Considering that the list of choices for spelling status is only
correct/incorrect/undecided I do not really need the wheel there. For
most entries we never need to set that status anyway because that
happens in the process of importing and parsing texts. So the wheel
would be so much more useful for scrolling up and down.

- - What do you think?

- - Let us re-invent the wheel? ;)

Martin

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[Craig Farrow]

Thanks Martin, for bringing this up. I agree that the mouse wheel
behaviour could do with a general review and clean-up. When you click on
a Lexeme in Lexicon Edit, the focus *sometime* (but not always) shifts
to the right-hand panel, so that the mouse wheel scrolls the Entry up
and down. However, sometimes the focus stays in the Entries list and so
that list scrolls. Here it is an inconsistency that normally doesn't
matter--you just have to click again in an editable field in the Entries
list to get the focus back there.

In the Word Analyses area I see what you are saying: there are no
editable fields in the Wordforms list, so the cursor (focus) always
jumps to the Wordform Analysis panel. The first field there happens to
be the spelling status drop-down, which responds to the mouse-wheel as
you describe. In this case an unwanted data-change.

In Bulk Edit Wordforms there is no side panel, so the focus stays on the
list and the mouse wheel works as expected. In Texts the focus jumps to
the text itself, so you cannot scroll the Texts list.

The way I would prefer it to work is for the scroll-wheel action to
apply to the region of the screen where the mouse is hovering, since
there are numerous lists where you cannot set the focus and use the
mouse wheel. (Try Word List Concordance on a word with >20 occurrences.)
In Martin's example of the spelling status changing you would make the
whole Wordform Analyses form scroll, and not individual combo-boxes
(note that the mouse wheel doesn't change the Word Category even when
that field has focus.)

Craig.

3/05/2012 7:45 p.m. dï, Martin Zaske pišdimiš:

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> Dear all,
>
> I like Flex a lot and we are generally doing fine. Today I was doing
> some exports for my wife, something I wanted to do quickly to get back
> to my own work.
>
> Today was one time too many that the mouse wheel drove me "crazy". Is
> this normal? Is this the way intended by the developers, or have I
> configured something wrongly:
>

> We are working a lot with "Texts& Words" in the "Word Analysis" view.

[Cameron and Valerie Hamm]

I agree that I would like to scroll up and down and caught myself several
times earlier this week inadvertently changing the spelling status of a
wordform. I also would like more keyboard shortcuts and would like to tab
through different options in an orderly fashion.

However, we do have to remember that the developers are hard at work not
only on addressing pesky persisting problems like this, but also many much
more fundamental issues like data loss, and a host of others I can't even
imagine as a non-programmer. I'm so thankful for the wonderful tool that we
have in FLEx. Yes, it can be annoying at times, but I would say that 95% of
the time I am extremely pleased at what is being done and what I can
accomplish with it.

Hats off to all who have had their hand in its development and who are
actively and creatively thinking of ways to make it better!

Cam

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[J V C]

Amen on all counts!
Jon

P.S. I also liked Martin's suggestion to the testers/developers: "Please

try using(!)
Flex for several hours without a mouse, entering texts and parsing and
making and filling lexical entries. I would prefer that a lot."

Once users are familiar with a tool, the keyboard really speeds up the
day-to-day task of entering and editing data, and also highly repetitive
cleanup tasks that aren't yet supported by find/replace tools (i.e. Bulk
Edit in the case of FLEx).

> We are working a lot with "Texts& Words" in the "Word Analysis" view.

[Jonathan]

This should be possible if all of the texts are analysed.  When you add an example sentence from the analysed texts it gives a count of them.  I am not sure how to display that though.

Jonathan