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Thaylin Burns  
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 More options Jun 29 2012, 11:00 am
From: Thaylin Burns <thayli...@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2012 11:00:13 -0400
Local: Fri, Jun 29 2012 11:00 am
Subject: "There will be no certified implementations of Flash Player for Android 4.1."

http://blogs.adobe.com/flashplayer/2012/06/flash-player-and-android-u...

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Daniel Cauthorn  
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 More options Jun 29 2012, 11:31 am
From: Daniel Cauthorn <d...@backwaterfilms.com>
Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2012 10:31:15 -0500
Local: Fri, Jun 29 2012 11:31 am
Subject: Re: [FlashCodersNY] cut load time / coverflow greensock

Hey Coders,

I've got a flash project that has a ton of library assets that are primarily components for a Coverflow image carousel
application .  The assets are exported on frame 1 as movie clips.

The images that the carousel  needs  are fed via a rather  large  XML playlist to  a greensock LoaderMax  object.  

It all works quite well.

However,  the project takes about ten seconds to load when embedded in an html page. The client isn't happy about this.

I've tried everything to cut the load time ( using only the loaders I need to bootstrap the page, ect... )  but  the load time stays essentially the same.

My  question:  Can I  cut the load time by getting all the components in my  .fla  library that are exported  at run time
and convert them into external  swfs ?  

It's a big time commitment to do this, so I was wondering if anyone had  a similar  experience before I give this a try.

Thanks !

Dan


 
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Thaylin Burns  
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 More options Jun 29 2012, 11:45 am
From: Thaylin Burns <thayli...@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2012 11:45:30 -0400
Local: Fri, Jun 29 2012 11:45 am
Subject: Re: [FlashCodersNY] cut load time / coverflow greensock

Are your images in the carousel for viewing being loaded externally or are
they embedded in the swf? If they're embedded I would definitely
externalize those.

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 More options Jun 29 2012, 2:20 pm
From: Daniel Cauthorn <d...@backwaterfilms.com>
Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2012 13:20:32 -0500
Local: Fri, Jun 29 2012 2:20 pm
Subject: Re: [FlashCodersNY] cut load time / coverflow greensock

Hey Thaylin,

Thanks for the tip.  The images are loaded externally via XML as they should be.  

I'm just suspecting that the sheer volume of exported  library components  in the fla.  is bogging down the swf at both compile time and run time.

I'm  wondering if I should go through the trouble of off-loading all the library components into swfs and then re-load  them.

If I go through the considerable trouble of doing this , the assets - though now in a different form - will still take the same amount
of time to load ?

Dan

On Jun 29, 2012, at 10:45 AM, Thaylin Burns wrote:

Are your images in the carousel for viewing being loaded externally or are they embedded in the swf? If they're embedded I would definitely externalize those.

Thaylin Burns
http://www.thaylin.info/blog

"Common sense is a sense that common man does not seem to have." -me

On Fri, Jun 29, 2012 at 11:31 AM, Daniel Cauthorn <d...@backwaterfilms.com> wrote:

Hey Coders,

I've got a flash project that has a ton of library assets that are primarily components for a Coverflow image carousel
application .  The assets are exported on frame 1 as movie clips.

The images that the carousel  needs  are fed via a rather  large  XML playlist to  a greensock LoaderMax  object.  

It all works quite well.

However,  the project takes about ten seconds to load when embedded in an html page. The client isn't happy about this.

I've tried everything to cut the load time ( using only the loaders I need to bootstrap the page, ect... )  but  the load time stays essentially the same.

My  question:  Can I  cut the load time by getting all the components in my  .fla  library that are exported  at run time
and convert them into external  swfs ?  

It's a big time commitment to do this, so I was wondering if anyone had  a similar  experience before I give this a try.

Thanks !

Dan

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Marcelo Ferreira  
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 More options Jun 29 2012, 2:30 pm
From: Marcelo Ferreira <marcelo...@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2012 15:30:06 -0300
Local: Fri, Jun 29 2012 2:30 pm
Subject: Re: [FlashCodersNY] cut load time / coverflow greensock

Daniel

It really depends on your application needs, but can you afford to do on
demand loading with those library assets ?
One strategy that I have used in the past is:

   1. load the essential assets and start the app
   2. enqueue and load the most probably needed assets
   3. enqueue the rest of the assets

And if it happens to need an asset not yet loaded that asset comes to the
front of the queue and I show a loader indicator.
That amounts to really dilute your initial loading time to the execution
period of the app, and in most cases the user will never
see a loader indication or have to wait long

This approach does not fit to any app, but it has worked for me.

cheers

Marcelo

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 More options Jun 29 2012, 2:40 pm
From: Daniel Cauthorn <d...@backwaterfilms.com>
Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2012 13:40:33 -0500
Local: Fri, Jun 29 2012 2:40 pm
Subject: Re: [FlashCodersNY] cut load time / coverflow greensock

Thanks Marcelo ,

I tried that approach only to the extent that I set up an initial loader queue for the beginning "bootstrap"  assets, then a second queue for the assets that
aren't needed at the start of the application.

The result enabled a huge improvement loading the project locally , but strangely no improvement at all when I uploaded to a server and made at http
call to the embedded swf.

I guess I'm going to have to audit the assets more closely  .

Again,  all the library assets are set to export on frame one and I suspect that's where the log  jam is occurring.

Thanks !

Dan

On Jun 29, 2012, at 1:30 PM, Marcelo Ferreira wrote:

Daniel

It really depends on your application needs, but can you afford to do on demand loading with those library assets ?
One strategy that I have used in the past is:
load the essential assets and start the app
enqueue and load the most probably needed assets
enqueue the rest of the assets
And if it happens to need an asset not yet loaded that asset comes to the front of the queue and I show a loader indicator.
That amounts to really dilute your initial loading time to the execution period of the app, and in most cases the user will never
see a loader indication or have to wait long

This approach does not fit to any app, but it has worked for me.

cheers

Marcelo

On Fri, Jun 29, 2012 at 3:20 PM, Daniel Cauthorn <d...@backwaterfilms.com> wrote:

Hey Thaylin,

Thanks for the tip.  The images are loaded externally via XML as they should be.  

I'm just suspecting that the sheer volume of exported  library components  in the fla.  is bogging down the swf at both compile time and run time.

I'm  wondering if I should go through the trouble of off-loading all the library components into swfs and then re-load  them.

If I go through the considerable trouble of doing this , the assets - though now in a different form - will still take the same amount
of time to load ?

Dan

On Jun 29, 2012, at 10:45 AM, Thaylin Burns wrote:

Are your images in the carousel for viewing being loaded externally or are they embedded in the swf? If they're embedded I would definitely externalize those.

Thaylin Burns
http://www.thaylin.info/blog

"Common sense is a sense that common man does not seem to have." -me

On Fri, Jun 29, 2012 at 11:31 AM, Daniel Cauthorn <d...@backwaterfilms.com> wrote:

Hey Coders,

I've got a flash project that has a ton of library assets that are primarily components for a Coverflow image carousel
application .  The assets are exported on frame 1 as movie clips.

The images that the carousel  needs  are fed via a rather  large  XML playlist to  a greensock LoaderMax  object.  

It all works quite well.

However,  the project takes about ten seconds to load when embedded in an html page. The client isn't happy about this.

I've tried everything to cut the load time ( using only the loaders I need to bootstrap the page, ect... )  but  the load time stays essentially the same.

My  question:  Can I  cut the load time by getting all the components in my  .fla  library that are exported  at run time
and convert them into external  swfs ?  

It's a big time commitment to do this, so I was wondering if anyone had  a similar  experience before I give this a try.

Thanks !

Dan

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Marcelo Ferreira  
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 More options Jun 29 2012, 2:59 pm
From: Marcelo Ferreira <marcelo...@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2012 15:59:32 -0300
Local: Fri, Jun 29 2012 2:59 pm
Subject: Re: [FlashCodersNY] cut load time / coverflow greensock

you are welcome, Dan

Managing assets can be a pain...

Marcelo

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 More options Jul 10 2012, 12:22 am
From: Thaylin Burns <thayli...@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2012 00:22:27 -0400
Local: Tues, Jul 10 2012 12:22 am
Subject: Re: [FlashCodersNY] cut load time / coverflow greensock

What's the size of the swf? For just an image carousel, you shouldn't be
too heavy. Any assets you should try to set up to either be drawn
programmatically if not too complex, or if image type assets then loaded
externally as well with a queue type thing as was said earlier.

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