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mtfe...@netmapsonscape.net

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Nov 29, 2011, 11:17:13 PM11/29/11
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I was looking through the DeSchuttes Brewery site; one of my favorite
"easy to get beers" is their Obsidian Stout. One of my favorite
seasonals is their Abyss Imperial. Both won lottsa awards at various
competitions. I looked through the WBA (World Beer Awards) results, and
this one caught my eye especially

http://www.minoh-beer.jp/store-products/mb9

Won Asia's best strong stout, 2011, and 3 more golds in 2010.

Also worth noting

Preston Ale's Irish Ale won Asia's best Export Style Stout and World's best
Stout Export Style. No web site given, but the company info is given as

Honda Sangyou Company
421 Kawachi-gan
Kaminogawa-mach
Isooka
Tochigi
Japan
329 0606

And SanktGallen Brown Porter won Asia's Best Porter

http://www.sanktgallenbrewery.com/beers/brown-porter/

As you can probably tell, I'm partial to stouts and porters.

Anyway, the full list is at
http://www.worldbeerawards.com/2011/

If you download the PDFs, you'll see quite a few Japanese beers winning
awards. Japanese ji-biiru is well-represented. Good to see. Now, if only
they were more available, even in Japan...

Mike

mtfe...@netmapsonscape.net

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Jan 1, 2012, 12:18:47 AM1/1/12
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mtfe...@netmapsonscape.net wrote:

Didn't find any of the beers on my previous post, but I picked up a
stout at BevMo (Beverages and More) that I really liked. Drank the
whole bottle (22 oz) checked it out, an lo-and-behold, it was
Japanese.

Anyway, it's Baird Brewey's Dark Sky Imperial Stout. Very good Imperial
stout, for those of you who like them. Not as sweet as many (though I
like the sweetness.)

If you happen to run a bar (you know who you are) and are looking to offer
something a step up from Guiness (or, really 2-3 steps up), this would
be something to consider.

Mike

Declan Murphy

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Jan 5, 2012, 3:38:31 AM1/5/12
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On Jan 1, 2:18 pm, mtfes...@netMAPSONscape.net wrote:
> mtfes...@netmapsonscape.net wrote:
>
> Didn't find any of the beers on my previous post, but I picked up a
> stout at BevMo (Beverages and More) that I really liked. Drank the
> whole bottle (22 oz) checked it out, an lo-and-behold, it was
> Japanese.
>
> Anyway, it's Baird Brewey's Dark Sky Imperial Stout. Very good Imperial
> stout, for those of you who like them. Not as sweet as many (though I
> like the sweetness.)

Very good little brewery. Visited it about 3 years back. Not very
Japanese though (the brewer is American, as are the staff).

> If you happen to run a bar (you know who you are) and are looking to offer
> something a step up from Guiness (or, really 2-3 steps up), this would
> be something to consider.

Wash your mouth out infidel.

mtfe...@netmapsonscape.net

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Jan 5, 2012, 9:21:00 AM1/5/12
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Declan Murphy <declan...@hotmail.com> wrote:
Not with Guiness, certainly...

Mike

John W.

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Jan 6, 2012, 4:50:32 PM1/6/12
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On Jan 5, 8:21 am, mtfes...@netMAPSONscape.net wrote:
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> Not with Guiness, certainly...
>
> Mike- Hide quoted text -
>
I think you must have gotten some bad Guiness in your day. While I
don't particularly like the company and the way they have tended to
squash competition, I also don't think they really needed to because
they make a very yummy bear that is just heavy enough. I have many
fond memories of drinking Guiness with friends; I also have many fond
holes in my memory of drinking Guiness with friends.

John W.

mtfe...@netmapsonscape.net

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Jan 6, 2012, 6:35:02 PM1/6/12
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John W. <worth...@gmail.com> wrote:
Guiness is the perfect looking beer; just no flavor to it.

Mike
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Declan Murphy

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Jan 12, 2012, 2:41:22 AM1/12/12
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On Jan 8, 12:38 pm, band beyond description
<shadowboxing....@apocalypse.com> wrote:
> <mtfes...@netMAPSONscape.net> wrote:
> Agree — and no offense to anyone/YMMV, but IMHYankO, Guiness is probably
> more about being an Anglo-Irish traditional social-lubricant facilitator
> "down the pub" and one with a long history of course (its "blandness" was
> likely suited ti having a recipe that emphasized preservation on long
> colonial-era voyages) than actually being a world-class stellar beer,
> especially if one compares it to the plethora of great brew on the market
> worldwide these days — but I will give Guiness credit for having a
> nomihodai bar at the end of their museum tour in Dublin (this was way back
> in 1990, dunno if it's the same nowadays), whereas the Heineken tour in
> Amsterdam in that era was limited to a glass or two (cheap Dutch? though
> the Heineken admission fee went to UNICEF or some such charity fund)...

If the kegs have been transported and stored properly, the server
correctly maintained and cleaned, the keg freshly tapped and the pint
properly poured, the black stuff is consistently good on-tap.
Unfortunately there are only about 4 pubs in Japan that can do all of
the above. The other reason for selling Guinness instead of Beamish,
Murphy's or stouts produced by microbrewerys such as Baird etc, is
basically cost/profit related. I have 5 beers on tap in the pub, but
Guinness is the only brand where I can sell the full keg immediately
after tapping. For a part-time publican, the reliability of their
quality control and sheer brand recognition are a big plus. I can (and
do) sell Japanese microbrews, but can only do so profitably if selling
by the bottle.
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