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Martin Hipp  
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 More options May 18 2009, 4:17 am
From: Martin Hipp <martin.h...@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 18 May 2009 01:17:07 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Mon, May 18 2009 4:17 am
Subject: Re: Website Design Project
I published another sitemap concept which I think will work better.

 
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Kris Walker  
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 More options May 18 2009, 1:53 pm
From: Kris Walker <kixxa...@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 18 May 2009 10:53:43 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Mon, May 18 2009 1:53 pm
Subject: Re: Website Design Project
From looking at the site map concepts, I think that everyone seems to
"get" the purpose of the website, and what the Fireworks Project is,
as well as what we're trying to be.  That is really awesome.  To make
sure we stay in the same boat, I revised the top of the project page
to reflect our content strategy more clearly (I hope):
http://groups.google.com/group/fireworks-project/web/website-project-...

However,  I think I may have become a little too verbose with site map
concepts #2 and #4.  Looking back through some material, I realised
that David's idea for outlining a site map is just to get an idea for
the pages that we may need.  I think we have done that, so the
question now is how to create the content objectives for each of the
pages.

I like Martin's paired down site map (concept #5), but It might help
if you elaborate a little on your ideas about why you think it would
work better?

Nice work... I'm getting excited to see how the content comes to life.


 
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David  
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 More options May 18 2009, 3:56 pm
From: David <dafe...@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 18 May 2009 12:56:56 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Mon, May 18 2009 3:56 pm
Subject: Re: Website Design Project
Yeah nice work so far.
Ok, we need to decide an initial sitemap.
We can go back later and change it, if needed.
But we have to start somewhere, and I think concept #4 is the best for
now.
#5 is not bad, but there's not a lot of space to explain our ideas &
vision, I think.

 
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Kris Walker  
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 More options May 19 2009, 9:58 pm
From: Kris Walker <kixxa...@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 19 May 2009 18:58:52 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Tues, May 19 2009 9:58 pm
Subject: Re: Website Design Project
I updated the web site project page again:
http://groups.google.com/group/fireworks-project/web/website-project-...

I started a concept setting out the goals of each of the pages.  I'd
like to call an end to this second phase on May 24th.

David, is my concept close to what you had in mind for your second
phase?


 
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David Young  
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 More options May 20 2009, 6:08 am
From: David Young <dtkyo...@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 20 May 2009 03:08:13 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Wed, May 20 2009 6:08 am
Subject: Re: Website Design Project
That's a very good start. I just cleaned the page so we can work
easier.
I revised the page and added some sub pages (see Organization).
We can add the details as well.

 
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Martin Hipp  
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 More options May 20 2009, 4:39 pm
From: Martin Hipp <martin.h...@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 20 May 2009 13:39:38 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Wed, May 20 2009 4:39 pm
Subject: Re: Website Design Project
I like what is coming along, but I am a bit concerned with naming the
page 'Organization'. In the UK, New Zealand and Australia and a lot of
other countries we would spell it with an 's' instead of 'z'. Could we
not just call it 'About'?

 
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Kris Walker  
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 More options May 23 2009, 10:38 am
From: Kris Walker <kixxa...@gmail.com>
Date: Sat, 23 May 2009 07:38:19 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Sat, May 23 2009 10:38 am
Subject: Re: Website Design Project
I agree Martin... That's a good point.  And besides the spelling of
'organization', there is going to be a content/navigational issue with
it as well.  Most people expect an 'about' page to contain that
content.

On May 20, 4:39 pm, Martin Hipp <martin.h...@gmail.com> wrote:


 
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Kris Walker  
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 More options May 27 2009, 1:50 pm
From: Kris Walker <kixxa...@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 27 May 2009 10:50:59 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Wed, May 27 2009 1:50 pm
Subject: Re: Website Design Project
I added some more explanation and examples to the site map.

The next step is to create some wireframes.  I think the best way to
do this is to have myself, David, and Martin each build a wire frame
independently of one another.  We'll set up a "launch" date to
announce all the wireframes and then begin a discussion about what we
like best of each one and what we want to incorporate into the final
wireframe.

Martin and I have already created wireframes, but I'm planning on
updating mine to reflect the content strategy and site map outline.
Martin can take another wack at it, or let his wireframe stand as it
is... His choice.

So what is a good launch date to have the wireframe's done?  I'm
thinking Mon June 8th.


 
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Michael O'Hara  
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 More options May 27 2009, 2:08 pm
From: "Michael O'Hara" <mroharam...@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 27 May 2009 14:08:54 -0400
Local: Wed, May 27 2009 2:08 pm
Subject: Re: [fireworks-project:228] Re: Website Design Project

I think that's a great idea to have 3 wireframes......although I'm not the
one taking the time to build the wireframe.  :-D


 
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Kris Walker  
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 More options May 30 2009, 5:51 am
From: Kris Walker <kixxa...@gmail.com>
Date: Sat, 30 May 2009 02:51:47 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Sat, May 30 2009 5:51 am
Subject: Re: Website Design Project
By the way, the idea behind independently designing wireframes is to
avoid the "designed by committee" outcome.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Design_by_committee

This way, we'll see different, independent, interpretations of the
site map.  We'll be able to critique each design, and decide which
interpretation we like best.  That is not to say that some elements of
other designs may enhance the design we choose, and we cannot rule out
the possibility of integrating elements from multiple designs.
However, I am a strong believer that perfection is reached, not when
there is nothing left to add, but when there is nothing left to take
away.

I stand by the submission date of June 8th, if David or Martin would
like more time, please post here.


 
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Martin Hipp  
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 More options May 30 2009, 6:01 am
From: Martin Hipp <martin.h...@gmail.com>
Date: Sat, 30 May 2009 03:01:21 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Sat, May 30 2009 6:01 am
Subject: Re: Website Design Project
I have quite a bit of work at the moment, but I will try my best at
getting a wireframe up.

On May 30, 9:51 pm, Kris Walker <kixxa...@gmail.com> wrote:


 
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David  
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 More options Jun 1 2009, 3:26 pm
From: David <dafe...@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 1 Jun 2009 12:26:02 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Mon, Jun 1 2009 3:26 pm
Subject: Re: Website Design Project
Ok, i was indeed a little busy. June 8th is ok for me.

 
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Kris Walker  
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 More options Jun 8 2009, 4:15 pm
From: Kris Walker <kixxa...@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 8 Jun 2009 13:15:28 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Mon, Jun 8 2009 4:15 pm
Subject: Re: Website Design Project
OK, time to see some wire frame concepts:

First, Martin submitted his wireframes a while back:

http://dev.martinhipp.com/fw/2/#
http://dev.martinhipp.com/fw/

And, recently, Martin also jumped ahead a bit and sent a concept with
graphical elements added. You can find it on our web design page here:
http://groups.google.com/group/fireworks-project/web/website-project-...
It is not too early to start collecting comments on that.

Next, you can find my latest wire frame here:
http://www.kixx.name/fireworks/

You'll notice that everything is in shades of grey. Since we are
focused on site navigation and possible usability issues in this phase
of design, I did not want colour selections to get in the way of that
process. You'll also notice a lot of empty space on the right side of
the home page, which will contain a graphic that I didn't bother
putting in the wire frame.

I would especially like some comments about the content selection tabs
on the left side ('everyone', 'ux design', 'developers').  Our site
targets several audiences, and so it presents unique challenges to our
content strategy and navigation. Having several sites for each
audience is confusing.  On the other hand developers become annoyed at
digging through content in layman's terms for information that is
relevant to them, while technical information that developers want to
see is confusing to users.  The content switching tabs on the left
side are my solution to this problem.


 
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Kris Walker  
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 More options Jun 9 2009, 8:30 pm
From: Kris Walker <kixxa...@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 9 Jun 2009 17:30:32 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Tues, Jun 9 2009 8:30 pm
Subject: Re: Website Design Project
Hi all,

David and Martin have been busy with school and projects, so I'm going
to be doing the wire frames to keep things moving.

The blog platform makes a much better place to discuss this, since I
can put pictures in with the posts, and everyone else can comment on
it.  Sorry to redirect everyone to a different location, but it makes
this much easier for the remainder of the web design project.

So, please stop on over a comment on the design:

http://fireworksfactory.blogspot.com/2009/06/fireworks-project-websit...

Comments will be closed Friday, June 12th. So, come early.


 
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Kris Walker  
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 More options Jun 15 2009, 7:24 am
From: Kris Walker <kixxa...@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 15 Jun 2009 04:24:46 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Mon, Jun 15 2009 7:24 am
Subject: Re: Website Design Project
Designers:

The layout is finalized with the wirframe found at http://www.kixx.name/fireworks/

The next step is to gather sketches of graphical design ideas.  The
goal is quantity over quality at this point.  We'll refine the design
after flushing out our ideas.  Sketches should be simple, non-
functional mockups that effectively communicate an idea.  It should
take less than an hour to create a sketch.

Please review this document before getting started:
http://groups.google.com/group/fireworks-project/web/website-graphica...

Upload your sketches to the files directory on this Google group, and
then post to this discussion thread with a link to the file and an
explanation of the idea that your sketch communicates.

1 week should be long enough to submit and discuss the sketches, so
Monday, June 22 will be the last day for submissions.


 
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Kris Walker  
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 More options Jun 15 2009, 11:38 am
From: Kris Walker <kixxa...@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 15 Jun 2009 08:38:04 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Mon, Jun 15 2009 11:38 am
Subject: Re: Website Design Project
Uploaded a mockup:
http://fireworks-project.googlegroups.com/web/web-mockup_1.png?gda=31...

The black box containing the logo and the tagline in the upper left
corner looks terrible, but I still don't have any good ideas for the
background of the logo.  This box also serves as the link back to the
home landing page.

The orienting the navigation buttons as shaded arrows is meant to help
guide a new visitor through the site while still remaining useful to
people who frequent the site.

In addition, each page has a "state" flag, which is the orange flag on
the left.  This is a strong indication to the user of where they are,
and what type of content they can expect on the page.

The main purpose of this mockup was to illustrate the arrow navigation
buttons and the page state flag.

Thoughts on these features from a usability and design perspective
would be greatly appreciated.


 
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Kris Walker  
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 More options Jun 17 2009, 2:41 pm
From: Kris Walker <kixxa...@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 17 Jun 2009 11:41:24 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Wed, Jun 17 2009 2:41 pm
Subject: Re: Website Design Project
David, Martin:

Any comments, any ideas, any mockups?


 
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