Firebug on Firefox 3 Beta 5

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Scott Severance

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May 21, 2008, 6:46:12 PM5/21/08
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I just upgraded to Ubuntu Linux 8.04 (Hardy). Hardy includes FF 3b5
instead of FF 2 for a number of reasons. What I miss the most is
Firebug. I haven't been able to find a version of firebug, though,
that works with FF 3b5, though comments I've seen suggest that such a
version exists. What am I missing?

John J Barton

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May 21, 2008, 8:53:09 PM5/21/08
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You are missing Firefox 3.0 RC1 ;-). Really I wouldn't spend time on
Firebug on 3b5, been there, done that.
http://developer.mozilla.org/devnews/index.php/2008/05/16/firefox-3-release-candidate-now-available-for-download/
Then go get Firebug 1.2b from http://getfirebug.com/releases.

Scott Severance

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May 21, 2008, 9:22:21 PM5/21/08
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John,

So I'm sure I'm understanding you correctly, are you saying that there
are problems with beta 5 that affect Firebug, or are you simply saying
that the RC is the current version?

I don't generally run pre-release software on this machine. The only
reason I'm running the beta is because that's what Ubuntu Hardy ships
with. I wouldn't expect Hardy to upgrade until the release. If I must,
I suppose I can install RC1, but I'd prefer, if at all possible, to
have Firebug and the officially-supported Firefox version at the same
time.

On May 21, 7:53 pm, John J Barton <johnjbar...@johnjbarton.com> wrote:
> You are missing Firefox 3.0 RC1 ;-).  Really I wouldn't spend time on
> Firebug on 3b5, been there, done that.http://developer.mozilla.org/devnews/index.php/2008/05/16/firefox-3-r...
> Then go get Firebug 1.2b fromhttp://getfirebug.com/releases.

Tom Cloyd

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May 21, 2008, 9:51:47 PM5/21/08
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Scott,

Maybe I'm missing something here, but to me you're not making sense. You
don't run pre-release software? What's that beta Firefox?

FYI, I very recently took the plunge with FF3. Mostly I run Kubuntu
7.10, but also Win XP. FF3 and the new Firebug beta is on both machines
- NO problems. EASY installation.


FF3 is simply astounding. It's been a long time since a piece of new
software has impressed me so much. It appears that all those nasty
memory consuming problems of FF2 are GONE. There is much else I like,
too. The new Firebug John points you to is serving me very well also -
I'm in an intensive period of development with 3 websites, and I'm using
both programs a lot. NO problems whatsoever. Like is good, and I
couldn't be more pleased.

Come on in. The water's fine.

t.


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Scott Severance

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May 21, 2008, 11:45:52 PM5/21/08
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On May 21, 8:51 pm, Tom Cloyd <tomcl...@comcast.net> wrote:
> Scott,
>
> Maybe I'm missing something here, but to me you're not making sense. You
> don't run pre-release software? What's that beta Firefox?

I said I generally don't run pre-release software. But Hardy (8.04)
ships beta 5 as the default browser. I believe there are a couple of
reasons for this. First, FF2 on Linux is very buggy and gets worse
with time. Second, Ubuntu policy generally prohibits version changes.
In other words, Dapper was stuck with FF1.5 even though FF2 was
released shortly after Dapper's release. If Hardy shipped FF2, they'd
be forced to support FF2 for longer than Mozilla will. So, Hardy ships
FF3b5.

> FF3 is simply astounding. It's been a long time since a piece of new
> software has impressed me so much. It appears that all those nasty
> memory consuming problems  of FF2 are GONE.

The easiest solution for me would be to install firefox-2 and
downgrade. But as you pointed out, FF3 is far superior. Experience has
taught me that installing software outside of the distribution can
easily cause headaches down the road, but I suppose I might have to
bite the bullet and compile FF3RC1 myself using checkinstall.

John J Barton

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May 21, 2008, 11:48:15 PM5/21/08
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On May 21, 6:22 pm, Scott Severance <scott.severa...@gmail.com> wrote:
> John,
>
> So I'm sure I'm understanding you correctly, are you saying that there
> are problems with beta 5 that affect Firebug, or are you simply saying
> that the RC is the current version?

Scott,

I'm saying the FF3 had significant fixes between b5 and rc1 that
affect Firebug. The Firebug issue list has a bunch of b5 entries.
Firebug+FF3rc1 has some problems, but they are almost all on Firebug.
I would not hesitate to move from FF3b5 to rc1.

John.
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