I migrated from FF 3.6 to 4. I have 100+ extensions. I lost
precisely two where FF changed things under the hood the the extension
used. One was no longer developed/supported in any case, and I found
another that offered the same functionality that worked. The others
author planned a fix but was waiting for the dust to settle and an
actual FF4 release to occur so he wasn't shooting at a moving target.
Everything else worked, and has continued to work in FF 5, 6, 7 beta,
Aurora, and Nightly. All I had to do was turn off addon compatibility
checking, which I did by installing Addons Compatibility Reporter.
See https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/add-on-compatibility-reporter/
Do yourself a favor, do likewise, and upgrade.
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Dennis
> I instead would rather see a shift to support even Aurora, as that's
> the version that will be released in 3 months and it's better to find
> bugs as soon as possible to fix regressions in Firefox.
To a large extent, it does. IIRC, it was mentioned that Firebug
development was done against the Aurora branch.
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Dennis
So you don't have the time to upgrade your browser, and instead you
want that other people devote their time to support the version that
you've chosen to stay with?
Just for how long should they stay supporting it?
And when you finally decide to upgrade, I think that you'll expect a
fully supported and polished version of Firebug that doesn't have any
problem with the current version of Firefox.
I instead would rather see a shift to support even Aurora, as that's
the version that will be released in 3 months and it's better to find
bugs as soon as possible to fix regressions in Firefox.
From: | - Fri Sep 09 13:44:26 2011 |
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Message-ID: | <4E6A69BF.4070601(at)tlinx(dot)org> |
Date: | Fri, 09 Sep 2011 12:32:15 -0700 |
From: | Astara (la_walsh) <firebug(at)tlinx(dot)org> |
User-Agent: | Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.0; en-US; rv:1.8.1.24) Gecko/20100228 Thunderbird/2.0.0.24 Mnenhy/0.7.6.666 |
Subject: | Fwd: [firebug] Re: Firebug 1.8.2 |
alfonsoml wrote:
> So you don't have the time to upgrade your browser, and instead you
> want that other people devote their time to support the version that
> you've chosen to stay with?
>
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Just because 30% of the people haven't upgraded... not just me...
Are you trying
to make me feel like I'm somehow all alone in not upgrading just yet?
> Just for how long should they stay supporting it?
>
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It depends, but usually when the user base gets down below some
fractional value like 1/3, 1/4, 1/5... depends on the product and
how it is used.
Also depends on how well the old product works or if it crashes or
has features that
just are broken.
> And when you finally decide to upgrade, I think that you'll expect a
> fully supported and polished version of Firebug that doesn't have any
> problem with the current version of Firefox.
----
I don't have that now, so why would I expect it when I upgrade?
Usually I expect a downgrade in quality when I upgrade. Developers
tend to focus on new features and new stuff, while not devoting
enough time to maintenance or fixing of problems -- in general,
I dread upgrades because of the focus on new features, that usually bring
a host of new bugs (this is 'in general' not specific to firebug).
It's rare that a new release brings an upgrade in quality without
some increase in new features that also bring New bugs (security
patches usually excluded from that count, though not always).
> I instead would rather see a shift to support even Aurora, as that's
> the version that will be released in 3 months and it's better to find
> bugs as soon as possible to fix regressions in Firefox.
>
` Chris Baker wrote:
> If you are a developer and you're using a 3 year old browser to work,
> I humbly suggest you are doing it wrong. I keep a computer around with
> FF 3.x to check my work, but there is absolutely no reason, as a web
> developer who spends all working hours on the internet, to refuse the
> updates to your browser. You're missing all new HTML 5 specification
> implementations, for starters.... you guys are morally equivalent to
> people who still use IE 6! Come on... update your software. As a
> technical person, should know better.
>
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But I'm NOT developing FF 4-7...
I use FB to figure out why web pages I'm visiting today don't work...
Sometimes they look for other browsers (more rare these days), or they
expect me to have 3rd party cookies enabled, or they expect my machine
to have no firewall, or to permit access to all
scripts/sites w/no control...
These are unrealistic expectations in my environment. But they are used
to dealing with the masses who don't secure their machines and come to
expect such in order for their sites to function. So I have to use FB
to break into the code at a certain point to see why it is failing and
how to work around it --- sometimes by allowing more permissions, or
sometimes by blocking other pieces of code ... or occasionally (if it
important enough), by writing some custom css or js rules that execute
on that site.
My browser isn't 3 years old, it was downloaded last week -- new version
3.6.21 or 22?
But to expect me to debug websites that don't work with 3.x using a 6.x
or 7.x browser is
unrealistic. What type of developer would do something that lame?
It is RARE, that I encounter a website that will only work with a newer
browser, it's usually something much more mundane, like 'expectations of
no security', that are at the root.
Scott M. Sanders wrote:
> Weird, it's like real users still use "old" browsers and encounter
> bugs that need fixed.
*snicker*