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Mikhail Ramendik
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* From : Mikhail Ramendik, 2:5020/287.45 (16 Apr 02 03:53)
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Hello All!
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From: Tom Jennings <to...@wps.com>
To: Mikhail Ramendik <mik...@dataforce.net>
Date: Sunday, June 14, 1998, 3:00:06 AM
Subject: the creation of Fidonet and gays
Thank you for your straight-forward question! Isn't it funny how a simple
question or basic research ends weeks or months of name-calling, bickering,
and gossip (but I guess gossip can be more fun :-)
Yes, I am gay, for the record. And no, there was no other author of
Fido/FidoNet than myself, though of course I talked to lots of people and
implemented many other peoples suggestions over the years -- both gay and
non-gay people -- I didn't generally ask :-)
Being gay, and my experiences with radical organizing (gay groups and
anarchist communities) most definitely influenced FidoNet's design. The
concept of Nets an Regions as utterly autonomous units DIRECTLY descends
from my experiences and discussions with people organizing unpopular social
and/or political undertakings -- as anyone in that position -- political,
social, whatever -- in any place or time can understand.
(I'll reiterate that Regions as they are used now are NOTHING like the
original design -- they were meant to be identical to Nets, assuming the
American telephone system, where a region would be organized like a Net
except that there was no incoming mail host, eg. mail for xxx/99 wasn't
antumatically routed to xxx/0 if xxx was a REGION in the nodelist. That was
the only difference.
I hope this clears up matters. Thanks again for writing!
Tom Jennings
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From: Mikhail Ramendik <mik...@dataforce.net>
To: to...@fido.wps.com <to...@fido.wps.com>
Date: Saturday, June 13, 1998 2:03 PM
Subject: Q: the creation of Fidonet and gays
>Hello from Moscow Russia!
>
>This is Mikhail Ramendik, 2:5020/768.45 . I have written to you in 1994,
and
>your answer (that there never was a dog and that Policy is "an old smelly
>crock of shit") is now in the Russian Fidonet History FAQ :)
>
>Sorry to bother you again, but I'm confronted with some gay-haters over
>here. (I am *not* gay and do not support them, in fact I am a Christian,
but
>I do not like *hate* at all). The fact that you are gay was made well
>known
>by yourself. So I mentioned that you, a gay, did the creation of the
>very
>net the discussion is on.
>
>But they say Fidonet was created by two persons, and as the status of the
>other is unknown, you can not say that Fidonet was 'made by gays'.
>
>If this is not a secret, what is that status? Sorry if this is a bad
>question.
>
>Yours, Mikhail Ramendik
>Moscow Russia
>
>
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Best regards,
Mikhail
[ORuGA] [RAnMA] [Team Anna Sheridan] e-mail: mikhram AT dataforce.net (AT=@)
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Hello All!
Best regards,
Mikhail
[ORuGA] [RAnMA] [Team Anna Sheridan] e-mail: mikhram AT dataforce.net (AT=@)