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Erik Pettersson  
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 More options Dec 21 2008, 7:29 am
From: Erik Pettersson
Date: Sun, 21 Dec 2008 04:29:37 -0800 (PST)
Local: Sun, Dec 21 2008 7:29 am
Subject: Get feed count when using feedproxy.google.com?
Hi,

I have stumble upon several PHP-scripts for fetching my feedburner
subscriber count. But no one of them works when using the new;
feedproxy.google.com.

Is there a solution or are you going to fix this soon? :)

Kind regards
/ Erik


 
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FeedBurner Admin Google employee  
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 More options Dec 23 2008, 12:17 pm
From: FeedBurner Admin
Date: Tue, 23 Dec 2008 09:17:08 -0800 (PST)
Local: Tues, Dec 23 2008 12:17 pm
Subject: Re: Get feed count when using feedproxy.google.com?
Please see the updated documentation

http://code.google.com/apis/feedburner/awareness_api.html

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dzver  
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 More options Dec 24 2008, 7:48 am
From: dzver
Date: Wed, 24 Dec 2008 04:48:17 -0800 (PST)
Local: Wed, Dec 24 2008 7:48 am
Subject: Re: Get feed count when using feedproxy.google.com?
I disagree. He will not find in the documentation that

http://api.feedburner.com/awareness/1.0/GetFeedData?uri=ikonomika
returns WRONG data, while
https://feedburner.google.com/api/awareness/1.0/GetFeedData?uri=ikono...
works fine AND

http://api.feedburner.com/awareness/1.0/GetFeedData?uri=dzver returns
CORRECT data
https://feedburner.google.com/api/awareness/1.0/GetFeedData?uri=dzver
doesn't work at all.

He will not find in the documentation that feedproxy activates with
google ads in feeds, and after it is once activated some of the
aggregators will stop seeing actual data because of some header
misinterpretations. They will see 10+ days OLD data.

He will also not find that

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FeedBurner Admin Google employee  
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 More options Dec 24 2008, 3:25 pm
From: FeedBurner Admin
Date: Wed, 24 Dec 2008 12:25:49 -0800 (PST)
Local: Wed, Dec 24 2008 3:25 pm
Subject: Re: Get feed count when using feedproxy.google.com?
We are only documenting and supporting the new APIs as we are actively
transitioning all feeds to Google accounts.  We cannot automatically
forward requests because of authentication differences.

A correction to the statement below that is simply incorrect:  No ads
are ever activated in feeds unless they were already activated on
feedburner.com or the publisher has activated them.

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dzver  
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 More options Dec 25 2008, 5:42 am
From: dzver
Date: Thu, 25 Dec 2008 02:42:12 -0800 (PST)
Local: Thurs, Dec 25 2008 5:42 am
Subject: Re: Get feed count when using feedproxy.google.com?
OK, maybe I am wrong, but I don't like these changes.

I had never any problems with feedburner api before google start
messing with FeedBurner. I have problems now and I told you what they
are. In my websites I have 9 feeds with feedproxy to check. All nine
are using feed ads.

If feedburner was my job, I would not change api url or if I was
forced to change http to https, I would make new URL to work for all
feeds, not only for feedproxy ones. 1000s of developers must now store
information whether or not a feed is feedproxy and to use different
url and protocol to get data. 1000s of developers are wondering how to
cheat feedproxy to return them NEW posts, not 10 days old.

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Franklin Tse [Community Expert]  
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 More options Dec 25 2008, 1:24 pm
From: Franklin Tse [Community Expert]
Date: Thu, 25 Dec 2008 10:24:22 -0800 (PST)
Local: Thurs, Dec 25 2008 1:24 pm
Subject: Re: Get feed count when using feedproxy.google.com?
I believe that a conditional statement is enough for a program to
determine which API is to be be used.

If (Http.Response.Status==404 || (Http.Response.Status>=301 &&
Http.Response.Status<=307))
  use https://feedburner.google.com/api/awareness/1.0/
else
  use https://api.feedburner.com/awareness/1.0/

I hope that api.feedburner.com/awareness/ will finally redirect to
feedburner.google.com/api/awareness/ when the transition completed.

https://www.google.com/support/feedburner/bin/answer.py?answer=126303


 
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dzver  
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 More options Dec 26 2008, 6:26 am
From: dzver
Date: Fri, 26 Dec 2008 03:26:07 -0800 (PST)
Local: Fri, Dec 26 2008 6:26 am
Subject: Re: Get feed count when using feedproxy.google.com?
wrong, it returns status code 200 OK in both cases.

if you try google api first, you'll have to check 100s of wrong
addresses a single feedproxy address.

if you try feedburner api first, you'll have to check 10s of false-0
results. I mean, feedburner api returns 0 in approximately 5% of the
cases and 0 means "feedburner is currently returning zeroes", not
"feedburner has just migrated this account to google" :-)

other problem: if you have an aggregator and you are following
redirects, you'll know which is the last redirect, so you'll raise a
flag "this url is a feedproxy". But if you get data from feedproxy
you're already lost the battle, because the data is old. So you need
to get data with feedburner user-agent and this case you'll never know
if this specific account uses feedproxy.

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Franklin Tse [Community Expert]  
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 More options Dec 26 2008, 11:44 am
From: Franklin Tse [Community Expert]
Date: Fri, 26 Dec 2008 08:44:54 -0800 (PST)
Local: Fri, Dec 26 2008 11:44 am
Subject: Re: Get feed count when using feedproxy.google.com?
Oops, I did not explain the logic clearly, sorry...

When FeedBurner URI is received, append it to http://feeds.feedburner.com/
and send a HEAD request.

If the feed does not exist or a redirect is in effect, it is likely
that the feed is located in FeedProxy, and https://feedburner.google.com/api/awareness/1.0/
should be used.

Otherwise, the feed is located in the old FeedBuenr account and
https://api.feedburner.com/awareness/1.0/ should be used.

Hope this helps.


 
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dzver  
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 More options Dec 26 2008, 1:07 pm
From: dzver
Date: Fri, 26 Dec 2008 10:07:31 -0800 (PST)
Local: Fri, Dec 26 2008 1:07 pm
Subject: Re: Get feed count when using feedproxy.google.com?
Franklin: you see now what I mean :-) I am doing this with python once
per week and I'm storing a flag in DB for each feed, so I could check
valid api url later. But this is an ugly solution for an ugly
problem.

I think FeedBurner must keep old api available or make new one to
serve all feeds. I am not sure how easy is to solve this with PHP.
Eric might use curl

# ugly PHP solution
$ch = curl_init($url); # http://my-pretty-blog.com/feed/
curl_setopt($ch, CURLOPT_FOLLOWLOCATION, true);
curl_setopt($ch, CURLOPT_RETURNTRANSFER, true);
$str = curl_exec($ch);
$effective_url = curl_getinfo($ch, CURLINFO_EFFECTIVE_URL); #
http://feedproxy.feedburner.com/if-these-redirects-could-talk
curl_close($ch);


 
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Rodrigo Fante  
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 More options Dec 31 2008, 5:42 am
From: Rodrigo Fante
Date: Wed, 31 Dec 2008 02:42:25 -0800 (PST)
Local: Wed, Dec 31 2008 5:42 am
Subject: Re: Get feed count when using feedproxy.google.com?
Well now the
https://feedburner.google.com/api/awareness/1.0/GetFeedData?uri=fazed...

is not working anymore, I'm trying for more than 12 hours to use it
but always returns me :

"Server Error 502
The server encountered a temporary error and could not complete your
request.

Please try again in 30 seconds."

Any ideas?

Why is Google messing up so badly with feedburner?

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Rodrigo Fante  
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 More options Dec 31 2008, 5:49 am
From: Rodrigo Fante
Date: Wed, 31 Dec 2008 02:49:54 -0800 (PST)
Local: Wed, Dec 31 2008 5:49 am
Subject: Re: Get feed count when using feedproxy.google.com?
Sometimes when I don't get an error it returns circulation = 0, wich
is wrong, yesterday it was working fine and now they're changing it
all again...

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Franklin Tse [Community Expert]  
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 More options Jan 1 2009, 10:16 pm
From: Franklin Tse [Community Expert]
Date: Thu, 1 Jan 2009 19:16:43 -0800 (PST)
Local: Thurs, Jan 1 2009 10:16 pm
Subject: Re: Get feed count when using feedproxy.google.com?
Hi Rodrigo,

You should use api.feedburner.com: https://api.feedburner.com/awareness/1.0/GetFeedData?uri=fazedordesite


 
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 More options Jan 2 2009, 5:19 am
From: Rodrigo Fante
Date: Fri, 2 Jan 2009 02:19:12 -0800 (PST)
Local: Fri, Jan 2 2009 5:19 am
Subject: Re: Get feed count when using feedproxy.google.com?
Hi Franklin, that URL was just an example, I didn't check wich type
was for that specific account(I have many), I know the 2 URL that I
need to use for it, to the old feedburner accounts and the new one
after changed to feedproxy, the problem is that the new URL often is
down, or given the wrong subscribers number.

Today seems fine, but who knows tomorrow? How can I trust and use it
on my application if I never know if it will work tomorrow or in the
next hours?

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