Perhaps that fact that "multiple David's ...feel like we haven’t considered
sufficient justification for why we’re proposing to
make a hole with a drill…" is due to the fact that we have not yet shown
them the evidence that exists--or they had not reviewed it before submitting
their observations...clearly the case in at least one instance.
You keep returning to general statements like, "I submit we're guilty of the
same faulty logic here. We keep returning to "we want some sort of Federal
KM Centre" because we "want to promote more KM in government" as if that is
the sole content of the reports you are reviewing.
I know for a fact that it is not.
Perhaps you can share with us the logic that you find so persuasive. At
least, then, we might have some sense of what the heck you're looking for.
Karen
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From:
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David A. Bray
Sent: Tuesday, May 26, 2009 11:28 PM
To: FedKM
Subject: [FedKM:117] Re: Why Should Congress Fund a Federal KM Resource?
Hmm... multiple replies below to multiple respondents:
(1) For Victoria Ward, sorry I sound like a broken record but we've
fallen into the problems of tactical-only thinking and forgetting the
need for strategic thought. Specifically that statement
no one goes into a hardware store to buy a drill because
they want a drill. They buy a drill because they want a hole
... is incomplete. You don't go to a hardware store to get a drill
because "you want a hole" without first considering *why* you want a
hole (the problems to be solved by said hole made by said tool). If
you're nailing pictures, you don't *need* a drill, rather you need a
hammer because you want *that* kind of hole. You also assess if you
already have said tool in your toolkit that works well, else you
wouldn’t buy another.
I submit we're guilty of the same faulty logic here. We keep returning
to "we want some sort of Federal KM Centre" because we "want to
promote more KM in government" but like the drill to make a hole to
nail a picture faulty logic, we've not documented *why* we want to
promote more KM in government. Why would more KM in government help?
Do we already have tools in our toolkit for these problems, or do they
not work well (and how do we know this?)
Neil suggested this was for "positive action sake" which is nice, but
not how our government currently is designed to respond, particularly
when money is tight and when diverting money for KM means taking it
away from somewhere else. There needs to be a crisis or problem to be
solved. What problems necessiate the action (making a hole) and the
associated tools (a drill or hammer)...?
(2) For Karen Danis, to answer your question/comments where you cite
the KM Center's report says "The tangible benefits of the KMI program
include..."
... none of this is supported by empirical or historical evidence.
This is strawman or "take our word for it" language that needs
justification, so it doesn't count as evidence Karen. I've waded
through all the documents that KMgov Initiative have written to date
as a member of the editorial board and only one document (to date)
provides sufficient justification for its part of the effort -- no
other one provides sufficient logic, historical examples, or evidence
to serve as a sufficient case analysis/justification for funding
them.
… specifically: I could write that the KM Center will help reduce the
federal debt, but that doesn't necessarily make it true.
(3) For Joe Firestone, be cautious, you're slipping into tactical
thought by saying let's propose an Act without assessing why an Act
would help. You're almost there, but I would suggest emphasizing why
an Act would help (why do we think we want to make a hole with a drill
and how do we know that a hole with the drill is the right action...
or are we going to try an put in a nail in our hole with a drill when
a hammer would have been better?)
(4) For David Heiser, agree completely: " government employees would
come forward with true life examples to help with the justification. "
<-- this is what we need and this will help provide either the
historical evidence or (if enough data points are collected) empirical
evidence to indicate the way forward. Thanks for chiming in and you
ask great questions!
(... also good to know I'm not alone in all the questions I'm
asking ...) I'm reposting the *great* questions you asked because I
think they deserve emphasis:
A Federal KM Center (or Institute as I prefer) needs
to justify its worth to taxpayers. The existence of
such an organization to going to do what? How do you
know it will be successful? How long will it take
to achieve said goals? Is the organization crucial to
the success of good government? If so, how? What
problems are being solved or new services are being
offered and why wasn't this recognized before? How
does the taxpayer benefit?
(5) For Karen Danis' latest reply, the documents you posted are
insufficient. They're language without references/historical evidence/
empirical evidence and thus blue sky language that could be made up
for all that policymakers know.
Again, I hate to break it to you but I've read all the documents
submitted to date by the KM Action Group and only one group provided
sufficient logic for their chapter. The others seem to spend too much
time referencing what KM is and not building a logical case why their
particular slant of KM in government was the best fit to solve
problems/help government with ABC.
I remain optimistic we can do this, but it seems that (coincidentally)
multiple David’s (Dave Snowden, David Heiser, and myself) feel like we
haven’t considered sufficient justification for why we’re proposing to
make a hole with a drill… (the problems to be solved) and some of us
are concerned that we may be reaching for a drill to make a hole to
mount a picture, when a hammer in fact would be a better choice if we
thought about the problems we were trying to solve.
<\twocents>
-d.
On May 27, 7:49 am, "Karen Danis" <
gkda...@comcast.net> wrote:
David,
As a retired civil servant (and retired military officer), I offer a
hearty,
"here, here!" to your request for a clear, compelling case for this
central
resource. Certainly, taxpayer dollars needs to be stewarded.
Have you had a chance to scan the information I provided earlier this
evening? I trust there is more available to us, prepared by the other
Action Groups, but this was close at hand. Truly, a lot of good thinking
has been invested in this project since February, and it would be a darn
shame to ignore this baseline. You'll find answers to your questions of
what the Center is to do, and how it helps the government realize the
benefits of KM.
The KM Center Action Group (AG) draft report lists some options for
sponsorship and other relevant data points. The AG had to delay the start
of its work because it was dependent on the results of the other groups.
Clearly, more concepts can be fleshed out and added now.
We have a "Communications" AG that bears responsibility for leveraging
this
material and helping us further our goals. I've attached a (current?)
draft
of the Initiative vision Neil developed about a month ago. An AG was
established to cover each of the bolded topics. Perhaps this will help us
see the relationships among the pieces of the Initiative defined to
date...and then we need to dive into the meat.
The Roadmap, itself, is intended to be a tool for helping decision makers
see real problems KM can solve, and the capabilities needed to make that
happen. The more concrete planning (e.g., how long until the Center comes
into existence; how long before it achieves specific goals) makes sense
once
we are farther along the approval process, although I agree that some
rough
measures could be appropriate now.
I've asked David Bray to elaborate on his thinking that we need "more
justification", given the specifics shared today. I, too, prefer to see
folks avoid reinventing the wheel.
HTH,
Karen
-----Original Message-----
From: fe...@googlegroups.com [mailto:fe...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of
dwheiser
Sent: Tuesday, May 26, 2009 5:35 PM
To: FedKM
Subject: [FedKM:114] Re: Why Should Congress Fund a Federal KM Resource?
This humble government servant would like to weigh in. First, to David
Bray, I truly appreciate your efforts with our troops. Stay safe and
come home healthy.
To the meat of the matter -- justification for funding. I've been
dealing with procurement issues and executive priorities for a number
of years. One thing that has always been impressed on me is the need
to justify the expense. (Wow, a lesson learned!) A good solid
justification proves that the idea isn't harebrained or someone's ego
trip. A good justification shows purpose, intent, solid research, and
a long-term benefit (tangible or intangible).
I am also an American taxpayer. I have a right as a citizen to know
that my taxes are not wasted, ill-spent, or used for immoral purposes.
As a government employee, I am held responsible for the stewardship of
funds placed in my care and thus, I must be accountable and ready to
prove that the funds were expended as intended and that they helped
achieve the stated goal(s).
A Federal KM Center (or Institute as I prefer) needs to justify its
worth to taxpayers. The existence of such an organization to going to
do what? How do you know it will be successful? How long will it take
to achieve said goals? Is the organization crucial to the success of
good government? If so, how? What problems are being solved or new
services are being offered and why wasn't this recognized before? How
does the taxpayer benefit?
I fully support said initiative and feel that government employees
would come forward with true life examples to help with the
justification. Some of our colleaques have already been down this
road. NASA, Army, Nuclear Regulatory Commission, Federal Transit
Administration, and others have had to justify their own KM
initiatives, were able to do so, and achieved the successes they've
reached so far. But, they've had to do so in somewhat of a vacuum. And
other agencies, including my own, sometimes feel like we're
reinventing the wheel. Not all the answers are readily evident but
collective wisdom is usually better than the individual.
Just some thoughts.
David Heiser
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