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From: rl_vau...@yahoo.com
Date: Mon, 13 Jul 2009 08:19:04 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Mon, Jul 13 2009 11:19 am
Subject: Re: [fasola-discussions] Re: leading slowly in 2
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--- On Mon, 7/13/09, Paul T. Robinson <ptr.h...@comcast.net> wrote:

> I carefully watched both the Homeward Bound clip:
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ckxBb222Tc
> and the Mount Pleasant clip:
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c_GSEjbMY64

> In both cases the two leaders are not what you would call
> synchronized, but in neither case are they at all "moving
> in
> opposite directions most of the time." Am I watching the
> same
> videos that everyone else is?

I have watched the videos you link above. I think "not-synchronized" is a better word choice than "moving opposite directions". At least when I think of moving opposite directions I would envision one going up while the other is going down and vice-versa throughout the song. That probably isn't what Warren meant, though.

> This video documentation coupled with my own observations
> tells me
> that indeed in traditional _practice_ the pulse of the
> downbeat is
> at the bottom of the stroke, not the top, regardless of
> what anybody
> _says_ one way or the other.

I'm not really sure this particular video documentation meets the original criteria of "leading slooowly in 2", but maybe I miss what Richard was getting at. Regardless, if a person is beating/thinking 1-2 (not 1-2-3-4) it seems for most the "1" is down. Whether it is traditional or not I'll leave someone else to worry over.

> So the right hand motion would be drlu or
> dru.  When using
> both hands the motions are symmetric, down-out-in-up or
> down-out-up.

This points out that we usually discuss beating time in terms of "left-right" with a right-handed bias.

Robert Vaughn
Mt. Enterprise, TX


 
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