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Robert Vaughn  
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 More options Jul 8 2009, 3:30 pm
From: Robert Vaughn <rl_vau...@yahoo.com>
Date: Wed, 8 Jul 2009 12:30:07 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Wed, Jul 8 2009 3:30 pm
Subject: Re: [fasola-discussions] Re: leading slowly in 2
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--- On Wed, 7/8/09, Thomas Malone <shapen...@gmail.com> wrote:

> They are not the same as "meters" as
> taught in University schools of music or music education.
>  (see the chapter in my dissertation 'Modes of Time are
> not Meters'.**)

I guess at times there's an advantage to not being cluttered up with too much knowledge! ;-D

> In the North, we have no trouble describing four four
> time as being "in two", but it is not in two.  It
> can't be.

Thank you. I felt a little slow in trying to discern what was being described, but your e-mail made a light go off in my head. I couldn't figure out how the "one beat" could be at the bottom of the stroke in a 4/4 mode beat 'down-up'. I mean, you would have one-fourth of the measure on the down stroke and three-fourths on the up stroke (or something like that). But now I think I understand. The person beating this way is evidently not thinking 1-2-3-4, but simply 1-2.

> Only the first mode, (two-two) and the third
> mode (two-four) of common time can be "in two"
> because the top number tells you 'how many', and the
> bottom number 'what kind" of notes 'or their
> equivalent' will fill a measure of time.  So, no matter
> how you beat it 'four over four" will continue to
> have four beats time in it. 

I think those of us who beat down-left-right-up (I use both 'down-up' and 'down-left-right-up' as it suits my personal fancy) may be guilty of adding to this false impression by using the words "in four" (or something similar) as a warning/heads-up to the class that we will be beating 'down-left-right-up' instead of 'down-up'. But this is a misnomer. As you correctly point out, 4/4 is "in four" regardless of whether you use 'down-up' and 'down-left-right-up'. Perhaps we should find a new phrase for this pre-song "warning".

Sincerely,
Robert Vaughn
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