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 More options Jul 8 2009, 12:40 pm
From: Thomas Malone <shapen...@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 8 Jul 2009 12:40:22 -0400
Local: Wed, Jul 8 2009 12:40 pm
Subject: Re: [fasola-discussions] Re: leading slowly in 2

WARNING : This is a long email. Please skip it if you are not interested!
 Thanks!
If you* are* interested please go slowly, I packed a lot of stuff in here.
 Whoo-wee!!!!

 : P

Hello all... Tom Malone here.

I was born and raised in Vermont, and learned to sing Sacred Harp both there
and in Massachusetts, so I can represent, for the sake of this discussion, a
typical "Northern Singer".

I think we can all agree that because of where I first learned to sing and
beat time, my initial learning could hardly be considered traditional.

Then, four years ago, I went to Camp.

This was the first year that Hugh McGraw taught rudiments classes for both
youth and adults.

Here I heard him say a phrase that he uses in all of his singing schools,
"We have seven modes of time, three of common, two of triple, and two of
compound."

In that moment, I quickly realized that I needed to set aside my previous
training and "become a beginner" because I, and many other "northern
singers" who had not sat in singing school before--- didn't even know what a
"mode of time" was!

We, "in the North," tend to think of songs as being "in two", "in three", or
even "in four" -- but none of these labels are correct, without fully
understanding the seven modes of time.
The 'modes of time' govern speed, rhythm, length of notes, and the placement
of accent in every song. They are as follows.

                         *  Common                 Triple
 Compound*
First mode:           *'four over four' *        'three over two'       'six
over four'*
Second mode:      '*four over four'         'three over four'       'six
over eight'*
Third mode:          *'two over four' *           - - - -
      - - - -

      (*The use of the word 'over' can be traced back to the 1844
rudiments.)

They are not the same as "meters" as taught in University schools of music
or music education.  (see the chapter in my dissertation 'Modes of Time are
not Meters'.**)

This realization was the beginning of my dissertation project, with the
hypothesis that many differences between so-called Northern and Southern
practice could be attributed to difference in awareness of the rudiments as
'teaching and learning' rather than as variations due to aural tradition or
folk-practice.

** For example we think that "four four" is a meter, but in Sacred Harp *
meter* is an aspect of poetry!  e.g. Long meter, short meter, 7's and 6's
etc.... these are meters.

In the North, we have no trouble describing four four time as being "in
two", but it is not in two.  It can't be.

Only the first mode, (two-two) and the third mode (two-four) of common time
can be "in two" because the top number tells you 'how many', and the bottom
number 'what kind" of notes 'or their equivalent' will fill a measure of
time.  So, no matter how you beat it 'four over four" will continue to have
four beats time in it.

Because -- "Four over four" is not a meter at all -- it is actually
the*second mode of common time
*.

A measure of which, contains four beats of musical *time*, indicated with
two strokes of the hand. The musical beats of one and two are both found on
the downward stroke, and the musical beats of three and four are on the
upward stroke, with the hand rising to four in order to complete the
measure.  I believe Henry and Warren made this point in different ways
earlier. (see the graphic below, or attached illustration)

*one      two      three    four*
down -  down    up    -    up

This manner of beating four four time differs from what University music and
music education programs call 'cut-time', in which the half note 'gets the
beat' -- and is this "in two" -- which might be understood like this:

*one*      (and)   *two*    (and)
bottom  rise    top      fall

The wording of the 1991 rudiments place the beat at "the bottom of the
stroke" which may appear to describe the latter of these two methods. But
this widespread practice of beating in 'cut-time' is probably more due to
the influence of other forms of choral training among newer SH singers over
the last 20 years than any technical discrepancy in the printed rudiments.
This reality has gradually given rise to the widespread idea that the second
mode of common time can and should be beat "in two".

If you are already exhausted by this email, you can stop here and come back
later....  : )

Believe me as a "Northern singer" I had to re-learn all of this over the
past four years, especially the beating of 'four four time' ---  and the
fundamental question "where is the one?" (primary accent).

But in close study with the many of finest teachers of the 1991 book, who
were mentored and taught by J.E. Kitchens, A.M Cagle, and H.N. McGraw etc.,
I have come to see that the "down down up up" approach is able to provide
better accent in the second mode of common time, a fact which the recent
recordings from Camp can attest to.

Consider: These three teachers taught and learned from the 1936 Paine Denson
rudiments, which instruct that the "primary accent comes and is placed on
the first part of the measure when the hand *starts down* in marking time to
the right of the measure bar." (emphasis in bold added)

Each of these thre teachers (Mr. Cagle, H.N. McGraw, Elder Kitchens) had the
same primary mentor in teaching, and that was Thomas J. Denson.  He
inititally learned from the B.F. White Rudiments and taught largely from the
James 1911 rudiments, which describe the placement of the primary accent (or
one) in nearly the same language retained by Paine Denson.

I have worked closely with Hugh McGraw on this exact question, and he has
demonstrated to me numerous times that in four four time, the muscial counts
of one and two are on the downward stroke, and three and four are on the
upward stroke. therefore "down-down, up-up" completes a measure of four four
time.  (again see attached graphic)
This is not to say that everyone does it this way --  : )

But then again, if you sing every song extremely fast, then it doesn't
really matter, because you have essentially shifted permanently into the
third mode of common time (2/4).  This is one of the main reasons why Mr.
Jeff Sheppard as been encouraging us to "slow down and feel the accent".
 When he was quoted in an interview saying that the Northern singers are
faster than the Southern, some thought he was kidding, but the failure to
observe the secondary accent because we race through songs in four four time
is a large part of what he was referring to.  And this is because "in the
North" we have tended to view all three modes of common time as being, "in
two".

BUT - our understanding of modes of time is improving and therefore we in
the 'cold and frosty North' are learning to accent better in four four time!
And for learners of all ages to improve gradually by being repeatedly
exposed to and taken through the rudiments, is traditional!

J.E. Kitchens, A.M Cagle, and H.N. McGraw were more than just "traditional
singers," they were teachers of the rudiments.  Sacred Harp is just as much
a tradition of teaching as it is a tradition of singing.  These three men
were also the teachers and mentors of the elder generation who teaches at
Camp Fasola today.

They have something else in common as well -- each of them were taught how
"to teach the rudiments" by Mr. Tom Denson.

Consider that Jeff Sheppard learned to sing mostly from his father, who
successfully invited Tom Denson to stay at his house and teach -- and he
stayed and taught for two whole years!

So, unless you think all of these teachers were beating four four time
differently than most of us due to a lack of awareness of a better way, and
that, if they knew better-- they would do it "in two" like us, we should
consider their practice as more than simply traditional.

The cognitive dissonance we feel when presented with this 'down-down, up-up'
approach and the new location of "one" near the middle rather than at the
bottom of the stroke is simply an improvement of our understanding of the
second mode of common time.  Or at least the awareness of new possibilities.

Which is helpful, because it is the most 'common' of all the modes of time,
and the one we use the most often.

As noted earlier, the 1936 rudiments tell us "leaders assume a good deal of
discretion, and vary somewhat in the manner of beating or marking
time." and *nobody* wants to be told they are doing it wrong, so it is also
traditional to let each leader decide on their own way to give their lesson,
without the class unnecessarily correcting or overriding them.  In the
Sacred Harp we are all teachers, singers, and learners and no one person can
'know it all' but we can all make an effort.

I personally find the illustration in the attachment offers new
possibilities for personal and regional diversity in accent -- and four
years into practicing it, I known I still have a long way to go.... but know
I want to make the effort to improve.

There is so much more we can learn.... in time, in tune, and in accent.

Now let's sing!

Tom Malone

P.S.  I would be glad to dialogue more 'off-list' with anyone on these 'deep
water' questions, or by telephone. My number is in the minutes book.

P.S.S. Yes, I just finished a dissertation on exactly this question. So
plese orgive the length and throughness of my
reponse, as well as any typoes or inconsistencies with quotes or
spacing, I have learned that I am better at content than formatting.

On Mon, Jul 6, 2009 at 9:02 PM, Wade Kotter<wadekot...@yahoo.com> wrote:

> Here's a link to the Mount Pleasant Youtube video:

> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c_GSEjbMY64

> Wade Kotter
> South Ogden, UT

> --- On Mon, 7/6/09, John Garst <ga...@chem.uga.edu> wrote:

>> Warren, is it the MOUNT PLEASANT Youtube video, Mike and
>> Syd leading,
>> to which you referred?

>> As I see it, the two leaders are mostly together, but they
>> are a
>> little ragged here and there, and my eyes and ears indicate
>> to me
>> that the singers take the beat as beginning at the bottom
>> of the
>> downstroke.  I don't know what Mike and Syd intended.

>> My mind's eye tells me that some leaders mark the first
>> beat of a
>> duple measure by moving the hand away from the body, mostly

>> horizontally and toward the singers he/she is facing,
>> perhaps with an
>> unflexing of the elbow - the hand then falls during that
>> beat.  Is
>> this the traditional style that has been referred to
>> here?  If so,
>> then the beat is unmistakable in that style - the leader
>> punches out
>> on the first beat.

>> John

--
Dr. Thomas B. Malone
Molloy College
www.SingIngalls.org

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