FarCry on OpenBD

[frax...@oxel.net]

Hiya,

I just thought I would give FarCry 5.0.2 a shot on my new OpenBD/
Tomcat/Apache/Windows install - but it seems like I encounter a bug in
the install process, "Failed to initialise core type: dmArchive.cfc".

Some digging indicated that this is a nasty OpenBD bug (submitted to
the bugtracker at: http://code.google.com/p/openbluedragon/issues/detail?id=63#c0
) - It doesn't duplicate queries properly.

Since other people (Geoff?) has been running OpenBD + FarCry 5 - is
there a workaround to this bug?

Cheers,
Hugo

[Marco van den Oever]

Very interesting question, will follow this on as i am also searching
for such solution.
My question is (don't know much about tomcat etc) as i see also a
windows part, this isn't really open source, so is there a 100% open
source possible as linux and bd and fc?

Or am i missing something here?

[Hugo Ahlenius]

| Very interesting question, will follow this on as i am also searching
| for such solution.
| My question is (don't know much about tomcat etc) as i see also a
| windows part, this isn't really open source, so is there a 100% open
| source possible as linux and bd and fc?
|
| Or am i missing something here?

Yes you are missing something - perhaps you are mixing it up with
BlueDragon.Net (which is not open source, and runs only on IIS).

OpenBD is fully open source, under the GPL license. It runs on any compliant
J2EE server/servlet engine - people seem to mostly deploy it on Jetty and
Tomcat though (both are open source). Both under linux, as well as on
Windows. And other operating systems too, I suppose.

More information here: http://www.openbluedragon.org/

See also the openbd mailing list: http://groups.google.com/group/openbd

You can give it a shot, but as I understand it, the 1.0 release will happen
in the beginning of December.

Cheers,
Hugo

[Marco van den Oever]

That is awesome, thanks for sharing this:)

[modius]

frax...@oxel.net wrote:
> Since other people (Geoff?) has been running OpenBD + FarCry 5 - is
> there a workaround to this bug?

Not sure I know of the bug -- I put together a little OpenBD install
video at http://www.farcrycore.org/tv a while back on the 5.0.x
release and it worked just fine. Perhaps recent changes in the OpenBD
code base have introduced some errors.

Not sure of the specific version of OpenBD i was running -- it was
just the Jetty ready-to-run download available at the time.

Please raise an issue at http://bugs.farcrycms.org/ so we have the
fault on record.

Hope that helps,

-- geoff
http://www.daemon.com.au/

[Hugo Ahlenius]

Geoff,

This was a newly introduced bug, which got squashed right away. Today I
built OpenBD from the cvs sources (a new experience!) and I finally got
5.0.2 to install.

A few notes:
* I had to increase the JVM heap size, since it didn't like the defaults.
* "Global Script Protection" has to be off for OpenBD - otherwise "Create
table" queries fail. I had to restart the server for it to accept this
change.
* I hit another openbd incompability/bug in
core\packages\types\_category\_deploycategories.cfm - OpenBD errors out if
there are queries that return output that don't have a name. (I'll submit
that as a farcry bug)
* With this, it installed fully. I haven't had time to investigate if
everything works as it should.

See:
http://code.google.com/p/openbluedragon/issues/detail?id=64
http://code.google.com/p/openbluedragon/issues/detail?id=63
http://bugs.farcrycms.org/browse/FCI-41
http://bugs.farcrycms.org/browse/FCI-44

/Hugo

--
Hugo Ahlenius
fraxinus (at) oxel.net
http://www.oxel.net

[Marco van den Oever]

That sounds (almost) great, thanks for sharing!

On Nov 19, 11:41 am, "Hugo Ahlenius" <fraxi...@oxel.net> wrote:
> Geoff,
>
> This was a newly introduced bug, which got squashed right away. Today I
> built OpenBD from the cvs sources (a new experience!) and I finally got
> 5.0.2 to install.
>
> A few notes:
> * I had to increase the JVM heap size, since it didn't like the defaults.
> * "Global Script Protection" has to be off for OpenBD - otherwise "Create
> table" queries fail. I had to restart the server for it to accept this
> change.
> * I hit another openbd incompability/bug in
> core\packages\types\_category\_deploycategories.cfm - OpenBD errors out if
> there are queries that return output that don't have a name. (I'll submit
> that as a farcry bug)
> * With this, it installed fully. I haven't had time to investigate if
> everything works as it should.
>

> See:http://code.google.com/p/openbluedragon/issues/detail?id=64http://code.google.com/p/openbluedragon/issues/detail?id=63http://bugs.farcrycms.org/browse/FCI-41http://bugs.farcrycms.org/browse/FCI-44
>
> /Hugo
>
> --
> Hugo Ahlenius
> fraxinus (at) oxel.nethttp://www.oxel.net 

>
> |-----Original Message-----
>
> |From: farcr...@googlegroups.com
> |[mailto:farcr...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of modius
> |Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2008 06:35
> |To: farcry-dev
> |Subject: [farcry-dev] Re: FarCry on OpenBD
> |
> |
> |fraxi...@oxel.net wrote:
> |> Since other people (Geoff?) has been running OpenBD + FarCry 5 - is
> |> there a workaround to this bug?
> |
> |Not sure I know of the bug -- I put together a little OpenBD install

> |video athttp://www.farcrycore.org/tva while back on the 5.0.x

> |release and it worked just fine.  Perhaps recent changes in the OpenBD
> |code base have introduced some errors.
> |
> |Not sure of the specific version of OpenBD i was running -- it was
> |just the Jetty ready-to-run download available at the time.
> |

> |Please raise an issue athttp://bugs.farcrycms.org/so we have the

[modius]

On Nov 19, 9:41 pm, "Hugo Ahlenius" <fraxi...@oxel.net> wrote:
> A few notes:
> * I had to increase the JVM heap size, since it didn't like the defaults.
> * "Global Script Protection" has to be off for OpenBD - otherwise "Create
> table" queries fail. I had to restart the server for it to accept this
> change.
> * I hit another openbd incompability/bug in
> core\packages\types\_category\_deploycategories.cfm - OpenBD errors out if
> there are queries that return output that don't have a name. (I'll submit
> that as a farcry bug)
> * With this, it installed fully. I haven't had time to investigate if
> everything works as it should.

Thanks for that!

Have moved your bugs to the Core database (Installer is defunct) and
scheduled them for the first maintenance release of 5.1 (due out next
week):
http://bugs.farcrycms.org/browse/FC-1612
http://bugs.farcrycms.org/browse/FC-1613

geoff
http://www.daemon.com.au/

[Marco van den Oever]

I am trying to install FC 5.0.2 on openbd/jetty, first i had some
problems also with the out of memory issue, adjusted that in the jetty-
service.conf file.

wrapper.java.initmemory=3
wrapper.java.maxmemory=2000

When i try to install FC it hangs at fetching project metadata.

The folder structure is created but the db not.

Any ideas or similar experiences and hopefully solutions?

On Nov 19, 11:09 pm, modius <mod...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Nov 19, 9:41 pm, "Hugo Ahlenius" <fraxi...@oxel.net> wrote:
>
> > A few notes:
> > * I had to increase the JVM heap size, since it didn't like the defaults.

> > * "Global Script Protection" has to be off forOpenBD- otherwise "Create

> > table" queries fail. I had to restart the server for it to accept this
> > change.

> > * I hit anotheropenbdincompability/bug in
> > core\packages\types\_category\_deploycategories.cfm -OpenBDerrors out if

[Marco van den Oever]

Seems java related: could not reserve enough space for object heap
java

Will go into the adventure...

On Dec 6, 11:37 pm, Marco van den Oever <marcovandenoe...@gmail.com>
wrote:
> I am trying to install FC 5.0.2 onopenbd/jetty, first i had some

> > week):http://bugs.farcrycms.org/browse/FC-1612http://bugs.farcrycms.org/bro...
>
> > geoffhttp://www.daemon.com.au/

[frax...@oxel.net]

Marco,

What date is your OpenBD? Be prepared that FarCry 5.02 is not
functional on OpenBD, as far as I know, without extensive modification
- I gave up after a bit.

For the installation, could it be one of these bugs?
http://bugs.farcrycms.org/browse/FC-1612
http://bugs.farcrycms.org/browse/FC-1613

Check the rte logs in the OpenBD admin, and turn on debugging to find
out more about the error you see...

/Hugo

On Dec 6, 11:37 pm, Marco van den Oever <marcovandenoe...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> I am trying to install FC 5.0.2 onopenbd/jetty, first i had some

> > week):http://bugs.farcrycms.org/browse/FC-1612http://bugs.farcrycms.org/bro...
>
> > geoffhttp://www.daemon.com.au/- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

[Marco van den Oever]

Well i have this:

The page you were executing caused an internal Open BlueDragon server
error

This line in red:

864: <cfset application.stcoapi[i] = duplicate(application.forms
[i]) />

Stack Trace

java.lang.OutOfMemoryError: Java heap space

This error has been logged to bderror50180.html. Please contact the
Administrator

These lines in red due to execution time:

17234 ms 2872 ms 6 C:/jetty-openbd/webroot_cfmlapps/
cfmlWebContext_1/farcry/core/packages/farcry/zip.cfc
15844 ms 15844 ms 1 C:/jetty-openbd/webroot_cfmlapps/
cfmlWebContext_1/farcry/core/webtop/install/includes/
_installFarcry.cfm
15437 ms 7718 ms 2 C:/jetty-openbd/webroot_cfmlapps/
cfmlWebContext_1/farcry/core/packages/farcry/alterType.cfc

Also i am trying to set it up without the installer, but have some
trouble setting up mappings in jetty... you have any experience????

Thanks

On Dec 7, 9:40 pm, "fraxi...@oxel.net" <fraxi...@oxel.net> wrote:
> Marco,
>
> What date is your OpenBD? Be prepared that FarCry 5.02 is not
> functional on OpenBD, as far as I know, without extensive modification
> - I gave up after a bit.
>

> For the installation, could it be one of these bugs?http://bugs.farcrycms.org/browse/FC-1612http://bugs.farcrycms.org/browse/FC-1613

> > > geoffhttp://www.daemon.com.au/-Hide quoted text -

[Marco van den Oever]

And i run a download of openbd from yesterday, the openbd/jetty bundle

On Dec 7, 11:18 pm, Marco van den Oever <marcovandenoe...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> > For the installation, could it be one of these bugs?http://bugs.farcrycms.org/browse/FC-1612http://bugs.farcrycms.org/bro...

> > > > geoffhttp://www.daemon.com.au/-Hidequoted text -

[Marco van den Oever]

The last few days i checked all possibilities of using open source
software to setup a server etc, i compared all the prices based on
collocation, preconfigured, dedicated, vps, etc etc.

My main motive for open source is of course that it's 'free', but if
you really check on what the extra time so costs are of setting it up
personally, maintaining it personally etc etc, then sometimes it can
be cheaper to go for a VPS or preconfigured server with windows and
Coldfusion installed.

For me it would be cheaper if i buy my own server and also host it
myself, then it's interesting, so for companies that can host their
own server and have a fast internet connection it's interesting but
when you don't have that possibility (almost fiber connection
available here but not yet) then the costs of setting up your own
server and install and maintain open source software on it can be even
more expensive.

Collocation seems attractive but if you add all the time and costs of
renting space, extra hardware firewall, sla (if none of basic then you
have to spend time yourself which might result in hours of down time)
updating the software, renting backup space etc etc. Then it's still a
expensive deal.

Also if you see there are still a lot of compatibility issues etc,
that is not a basis i want to setup clients on.

So how do you see this, very curious to everyone's opinion about this.

Thanks



On Dec 7, 11:31 pm, Marco van den Oever <marcovandenoe...@gmail.com>

> > > > > geoffhttp://www.daemon.com.au/-Hidequotedtext -