Blog Settings and Issues

[artie]

What's the best setting for Comments on my Blogger? Should it be set
as open as possible? Or what do most people do here? What would you
prefer?

[Gabriela Sellart]

Hi Artie,
do you mean whether to moderate them or not? The problem with no
moderation can be spam. So I would suggest you either moderate them or
add word verification.
Gabriela

[artie]

Some one asked about why they had to log in? I can set it for open with word verification. Is that better?

[Derek Chirnside]

2008/8/22 artie <artistsf...@gmail.com>

What's the best setting for Comments on my Blogger? Should it be set
as open as possible? Or what do most people do here? What would you
prefer?

Are there three options?

Blogger ID
URL/Name
Open ID

I prefer URL/name.
ie, this does not mean I need to log in.

I do not have an Open ID identity yet.
[to those who know: should I sign up??]

-Derek


 

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From Derek Chirnside.

[Derek Chirnside]

Artie.  That was me.  (Sorry)

2008/8/22 artie <artistsf...@gmail.com>

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From Derek Chirnside.

[artie]

No problem. I'm gald you said something because I want it to be easy for people to post.

[artie]

Here's my blog http://foc08-artie.blogspot.com/
 

Please check the sidebar and make sure that your blog is showing in my BlogList!

 

[Leigh Blackall]

Open as possible is my advice Artie. The only thing you need (IMO) is word verification so as to keep the auto spam out

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+64(0)21736539
skype - leigh_blackall
SL - Leroy Goalpost
http://learnonline.wordpress.com

[artie]

Here's a tip for people who use Blogger. Go to "Posting", click "Edit
Posts", click "Published" and you will see which posts have comments!
Whew! I was scrolling through all my posts for any comments and here
the comments are. The "comments" link with take you right there.

Anybody up for a small Blogger workshop group in gmail GroupChat? We
can go over all of the links and functions.

[NELLIE DEUTSCH]

Thank you, Artie. I am all for setting up a small Blogger workshop group in gmail GroupChat to go
go over all of the links and functions. Just let me know when?

Nellie
http://nelliemuller.blogspot.com

--
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Doctoral Student
Educational Leadership
Curriculum and Instruction
http://www.nelliemuller.com
http://www.integrating-technology.com/pd
http://www.building-relationship.com/education
http://blendedlear.ning.com

[Minhaaj ur Rehman]

I'd help in whatevere way i could.

On Aug 24, 12:56 am, "NELLIE DEUTSCH"

<nellie.muller.deut...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Thank you, Artie. I am all for setting up a small Blogger workshop group in
> gmail GroupChat to go
> go over all of the links and functions. Just let me know when?
>

> Nelliehttp://nelliemuller.blogspot.com

[Sylvia Currie]

Thanks for the blogger tip, Artie! I've found this tool to be really
useful. It adds recent comments to the side panel on your blog along
with the blog post titles. That way you can see comments at a glance.
http://blogger-templates.blogspot.com/2007/03/recent-comments.html
Sylvia

[Sarah Stewart]

I'm happy to help out with that if you need help. Sarah

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Skype: sarah.m.stewart
Twitter: SarahStewart

[artie]

"When"? That's the big question. I'm on CST. How about you?

2008/8/23 NELLIE DEUTSCH <nellie.mul...@gmail.com>

[NELLIE DEUTSCH]

It's so nice to belong to a group where everyone is ready to help.

[artie]

If there are enough people to do blogging workshops, I would recommend splitting up into three time zones so that the options for scheduling 2 or 3 people drastically increases. We can post our chats here in the blogging thread for everyone's benefit.

I'm on Central Standard now. So anyone within 2 or 3 time zones would be practical. The closer you are to me the better.

[NELLIE DEUTSCH]

Hi,
I am in Israel, but am fine with PST,  Australia, or New Zealand.

Thank you.
Nellie

On Sat, Aug 23, 2008 at 6:44 PM, artie <artistsf...@gmail.com> wrote:

If there are enough people to do blogging workshops, I would recommend splitting up into three time zones so that the options for scheduling 2 or 3 people drastically increases. We can post our chats here in the blogging thread for everyone's benefit.

I'm on Central Standard now. So anyone within 2 or 3 time zones would be practical. The closer you are to me the better.

[Illya Arnet-Clark]

Great idea! I'm willing to join up.
One thing that is extremely helpful in following comments is cocomment
http://www.cocomment.com/

I'm gmt +1.

Illya
http://illyasoet.wordpress.com

[artie]

Illya, what time zones are comfortable for you? I'm OK with CST, EST
and AST but will stretch myself a bit if there are not enough options.
Two people in the same neighborhood can do a blog workshop together
easily. I made a list of everyone who is in my neighborhood:

http://www.seanpmckee.net/blog/ Lima

http://nowpracticingcommunity.blogspot.com/ Nancy Riffer - New York
State

http://curlygrl.blogspot.com/ Bruna - Chicago

http://explorations.bloxi.jp/ Carla Arena - Brasil

http://phefland.wordpress.com/about/ Brasil

Any of you people want to put a small group together?

On Aug 24, 10:46 am, "Illya Arnet-Clark" <illya.ar...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> Great idea! I'm willing to join up.

> One thing that is extremely helpful in following comments is cocommenthttp://www.cocomment.com/
>
> I'm gmt +1.
>
> Illyahttp://illyasoet.wordpress.com

>
> On Sun, Aug 24, 2008 at 4:13 AM, NELLIE DEUTSCH <
>

> nellie.muller.deut...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Hi,
> > I am in Israel, but am fine with PST, Australia, or New Zealand.
>
> > Thank you.
> > Nellie
>

[cristina costa]

Hi there,

I am back online and available to help too if need be. I am on GMT (now Bristish summer time) Zone.

Check time converter here: http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/converter.html
Looking forward to it.
cris

[Vida Thompson]

Hi artie,
I would be keen to learn more about blogger. Count me in for the workshop. I am in Alexandra, NZ same time zone as Leigh.

Cheers,
Vida
>>> artie <artistsf...@gmail.com> 08/26/08 7:10 AM >>>

[artie]

Thanks for so much interest from so many people, but I think we will get more bang for our buck if we split into three separate groups according to time zone:

• Asia and the South Pacific
• The Americas
• Europe, Middle East and Africa

With these three time zones, we open up more options for scheduling meetings. My blog is kicking off with several posts concerning facilitation of time.

• Traditional Community
• Latitudes and Longitudes (The Comfort Zone)
• Conscious Day Clubs
• Mini-Meetings
• 4.3 Wks 4 and 5: Facilitating, moderating, or teac...
• Techniques for Looking
• People Who Share a Common Time for a Purpose
• Time is of the Essence
• Possible FOC Conference Projects
• Organizing According to Time
• First Assignment
• Community of Practice
• FOC08
• Glossary of Terms

2008/8/25 Vida Thompson <vi...@tekotago.ac.nz>

[mireille massue]

I'm in EST.  Toronto Canada Time.

 

I'm okay with any time.  I'm use to getting up in the middle of the night for a class.

 

Mireille

 

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From: facilitating-on...@googlegroups.com [mailto:facilitating-on...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of artie
Sent: Monday, August 25, 2008 6:49 PM
To: facilitating-on...@googlegroups.com
Subject: ::{{FOC}}:: Re: Blog Settings and Issues

[Illya Arnet-Clark]

Hi everyone
It looks like I missed a couple of messages.
I'm in the Europe area, but find that EST is doable for me too.

Are we going to meet on elluminate?
Maybe a chart on the wiki organizing whens, wheres and with whoms would be useful. Or have you been organizing yourselves differently?

The other question is what exactly people expect when we get together to look at blogs. Is it pure mechanics, or is it enhancing two-way communication?

Illya
http://illyasoet.wordpress.com

[Illya Arnet-Clark]

Welcome back, Cris!
I hope you enjoyed yourself :-)

I was just wondering where to look for time converter link, so am very happy you added it.

Artie, sorry, but I answered in another thread (blog settings and issues)
You'll find all my questions and answers there (more questions than answers!)

Illya
http://illyasoet.wordpress.com

[artie]

Hi Mireille,

Nice to meet you. What blogging format do you use? I have Blogger.

2008/8/25 mireille massue <mirei...@gmail.com>

[artie]

Illya,

I don't understand. This is the Blogs Settings and Issues thread! (I think?)

2008/8/26 Illya Arnet-Clark <illya...@gmail.com>

[Barbara Dieu]

>The other question is what exactly people expect when we get together to look at blogs. Is it pure mechanics, or is it enhancing two-way communication?

Good question, Illya. I would add a why to the combo :-)

What it is (Observe and Define)
How to use it (Mechanics - technical and communicative)
Why use it (Reflect and Understand)

Warm regards,
Bee

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http://dekita.org
http://beespace.net

[artie]

For me, I would like to get together with people who have Blogger and go through all of the functions. Two people could do this. The idea is to check my knowledge and ignorance against another person, to find out what we know, what we don't know, what it does, and what it doesn't do. We would thoroughly verify so as to increase our understandings.

2008/8/26 artie <artistsf...@gmail.com>

[artie]

Nellie has it right. Nellie, I emailed this post to you by mistake.

Thank you, Artie. I am all for setting up a small Blogger workshop group in
gmail GroupChat to go

go over all of the links and functions. Just let me know when?
Nellie
http://nelliemuller.blogspot.com

2008/8/26 artie <artistsf...@gmail.com>

[artie]

Mireille, I don't find you on the Participant's Blog List. Can you
give us a link, please?

On Aug 25, 9:52 pm, "mireille massue" <mireille...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I'm in EST. Toronto Canada Time.
>
> I'm okay with any time. I'm use to getting up in the middle of the night
> for a class.
>
> Mireille
>
> _____
>

> From: facilitating-on...@googlegroups.com
> [mailto:facilitating-on...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of artie
> Sent: Monday, August 25, 2008 6:49 PM
> To: facilitating-on...@googlegroups.com
> Subject: ::{{FOC}}:: Re: Blog Settings and Issues
>
> Thanks for so much interest from so many people, but I think we will get
> more bang for our buck if we split into three separate groups according to
> time zone:
>

> * Asia and the South Pacific
>
> * The Americas
>
> * Europe, Middle East and Africa

>
> With these three time zones, we open up more options for scheduling
> meetings. My blog is kicking off with several posts concerning facilitation
> of time.
>

> * Traditional
> <http://foc08-artie.blogspot.com/2008/08/traditional-community.html>
> Community
>
> * Latitudes
> <http://foc08-artie.blogspot.com/2008/08/latitudes-and-longitudes-comf...
> ne.html> and Longitudes (The Comfort Zone)
>
> * Conscious
> <http://foc08-artie.blogspot.com/2008/08/conscious-day-clubs.html> Day Clubs
>
> * Mini-Meetings
> <http://foc08-artie.blogspot.com/2008/08/mini-meetings.html>
>
> * 4.3
> <http://foc08-artie.blogspot.com/2008/08/43-wks-4-and-5-facilitating-m...
> ing.html> Wks 4 and 5: Facilitating, moderating, or teac...
>
> * Techniques
> <http://foc08-artie.blogspot.com/2008/08/what-exactly-we-are-looking-f...
> .html> for Looking
>
> * People
> <http://foc08-artie.blogspot.com/2008/08/people-who-share-common-time....>

> Who Share a Common Time for a Purpose
>

> * Time is
> <http://foc08-artie.blogspot.com/2008/08/time-is-of-essence.html> of the
> Essence
>
> * Possible
> <http://foc08-artie.blogspot.com/2008/08/my-assignment-projects.html> FOC
> Conference Projects
>
> * Organizing
> <http://foc08-artie.blogspot.com/2008/08/reading-what-is-online-commun...
> like.html> According to Time
>
> * First
> <http://foc08-artie.blogspot.com/2008/08/first-assignment-for-foc08-co...
> tml> Assignment
>
> * Community
> <http://foc08-artie.blogspot.com/2008/08/community-of-practice.html> of
> Practice
>
> * FOC08 <http://foc08-artie.blogspot.com/2008/08/foc08.html>
>
> * Glossary
> <http://foc08-artie.blogspot.com/2008/08/glossary-of-terms.html> of Terms

>
> 2008/8/25 Vida Thompson <vi...@tekotago.ac.nz>
>
> Hi artie,
> I would be keen to learn more about blogger. Count me in for the workshop. I
> am in Alexandra, NZ same time zone as Leigh.
>
> Cheers,
> Vida
>

> >>> artie <artistsforanar...@gmail.com> 08/26/08 7:10 AM >>>

>
> Illya, what time zones are comfortable for you? I'm OK with CST, EST
> and AST but will stretch myself a bit if there are not enough options.
> Two people in the same neighborhood can do a blog workshop together
> easily. I made a list of everyone who is in my neighborhood:
>
> http://www.seanpmckee.net/blog/ Lima
>

> http://nowpracticingcommunity.blogspot.com/Nancy Riffer - New York

> State
>
> http://curlygrl.blogspot.com/Bruna - Chicago
>

> http://explorations.bloxi.jp/Carla Arena - Brasil

[NELLIE DEUTSCH]

http://www.wikieducator.org/Facilitating_online_communities/FOC08

[artie]

That's the list but where is Mireille's blog?

2008/8/26 NELLIE DEUTSCH <nellie.mul...@gmail.com>

[NELLIE DEUTSCH]

Try this maybe: http://onlineinstruction.ning.com/profile/mireille32

[Illya Arnet-Clark]

Artie,
Thanks for clarifying that (and the thread). I think that's a great idea.

Maybe we could do the same for wordpress as well.

[mireille massue]

I'm going to be using Wordpress.

 

I've just started a course on blogging. 

 

It should be interesting.

 

M

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From: facilitating-on...@googlegroups.com [mailto:facilitating-on...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of artie

Sent: Tuesday, August 26, 2008 9:29 AM

[Leigh Blackall]

Hi everyone - looks like some online facilitation needed here :) who is going to step up?

I think it is a good idea to meet online. You are of course welcome to use the Elluminate meeting room, but perhaps you want to try more popular tools like Skype etc.. what ever you decide, can I ask that you try and document the meeting here.

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+64(0)21736539
skype - leigh_blackall
SL - Leroy Goalpost
http://learnonline.wordpress.com

[Barbara Dieu]

Hello Mireille,
I have been using Wordpress for some time now and can give you a hand when you need. I am 3 hours behind GMT
Beep me on Skype at beedieu.
You can also have a go  and tinker the first steps on your own by following the 45 minutes on You Tube
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MWYi4_COZMU
or
if you prefer reading
http://www.teachinghacks.com/wiki/images/8/86/Wordpress.pdf


Warm regards from Brazil,

[NELLIE DEUTSCH]

Can you please add your blog to FOC08 WE?

Thank you.
Nellie

[mireille massue]

Hi Barbara

 

I'm responding here because you have been so generous in offering to help and I want to acknowledge that.

 

If you would allow, I will connect with you via the web addresses you have below your name. 

 

I just saw an another email from Leigh that suggested we need to focus on online facilitation as it should be.

 

I will include another email so that if anyone else needs to share something with me not related to online facilitation, then they can. 

 

My apologies for disrupting the group.  It was not my intent

 

Mireille

mirei...@yahoo.com

 

 

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From: facilitating-on...@googlegroups.com [mailto:facilitating-on...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Barbara Dieu
Sent: Tuesday, August 26, 2008 5:38 PM

To: facilitating-on...@googlegroups.com
Subject: ::{{FOC}}:: Re: Blog Settings and Issues

[NELLIE DEUTSCH]

Hi Bee,
I just returned from a session with Cristina Costa on WiZiQ. It was incredible to be able to learn, share experiences and just chat about everyday things like food.

Nellie

[artie]

Illya

I don't know how good an idea it is. Seems like there are too many different blogging formats. Maybe we should do a workshop on google groups and chat, since everybody in the course seems to have a google account?

2008/8/26 Illya Arnet-Clark <illya...@gmail.com>

[Leigh Blackall]

Hi Mireille, I think you misunderstood me:

I just saw an another email from Leigh that suggested we need to focus on online facilitation as it should be.

What I meant was, its great that you are all trying to coordinate helping each other with blogging - you are developing an event between each other that needs facilitation. So I was proposing that someone gather up all that has been communicated so far about the blogging support network, and facilitate that support. It was suggested that an online meeting be called I think (hence the time zone discussion?), and so I was supporting that idea and asking that when you all do meet, that someone documents the meeting.

So no need for this:

My apologies for disrupting the group.  It was not my intent

Please continue, I hope to see someone facilitate a blogging support group.

[artie]

OK. So how about this. Whatever we get goping on, we are going to need
to have some understanding of eachothers time limits. So I suggest
that we make a chart and everyone can put their name there. Here's a
world map of time zones.
http://www.physicalgeography.net/fundamentals/images/world_time2.gif



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+1 Illya
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On Aug 26, 4:30 pm, "Leigh Blackall" <leighblack...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi everyone - looks like some online facilitation needed here :) who is
> going to step up?
>
> I think it is a good idea to meet online. You are of course welcome to use
> the Elluminate meeting room, but perhaps you want to try more popular tools
> like Skype etc.. what ever you decide, can I ask that you try and document

> the meeting here<http://www.wikieducator.org/Facilitating_online_communities/Meetings>
> .

>
> On Wed, Aug 27, 2008 at 9:22 AM, mireille massue <mireille...@gmail.com>wrote:
>
>
>
> > I'm going to be using Wordpress.
>
> > I've just started a course on blogging.
>
> > It should be interesting.
>
> > M
>

> > ------------------------------
> > *From:* facilitating-on...@googlegroups.com [mailto:
> > facilitating-on...@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *artie
> > *Sent:* Tuesday, August 26, 2008 9:29 AM
>
> > *To:* facilitating-on...@googlegroups.com
> > *Subject:* ::{{FOC}}:: Re: Blog Settings and Issues

>
> > Hi Mireille,
>
> > Nice to meet you. What blogging format do you use? I have Blogger.
>

> > 2008/8/25 mireille massue <mireille...@gmail.com>

>
> >> I'm in EST. Toronto Canada Time.
>
> >> I'm okay with any time. I'm use to getting up in the middle of the night
> >> for a class.
>
> >> Mireille
>

> >> ------------------------------
> >> *From:* facilitating-on...@googlegroups.com [mailto:
> >> facilitating-on...@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *artie
> >> *Sent:* Monday, August 25, 2008 6:49 PM
> >> *To:* facilitating-on...@googlegroups.com
> >> *Subject:* ::{{FOC}}:: Re: Blog Settings and Issues

>
> >> Thanks for so much interest from so many people, but I think we will
> >> get more bang for our buck if we split into three separate groups according
> >> to time zone:

> >> *
> >> *
>
> >> - *Asia and the South Pacific*
> >> - *The Americas*
> >> - *Europe, Middle East and Africa*

>
> >> With these three time zones, we open up more options for scheduling
> >> meetings. My blog is kicking off with several posts concerning facilitation
> >> of time.
>

> >> - Traditional Community<http://foc08-artie.blogspot.com/2008/08/traditional-community.html>
> >> - Latitudes and Longitudes (The Comfort Zone)<http://foc08-artie.blogspot.com/2008/08/latitudes-and-longitudes-comf...>
> >> - Conscious Day Clubs<http://foc08-artie.blogspot.com/2008/08/conscious-day-clubs.html>
> >> - Mini-Meetings<http://foc08-artie.blogspot.com/2008/08/mini-meetings.html>
> >> - 4.3 Wks 4 and 5: Facilitating, moderating, or teac...<http://foc08-artie.blogspot.com/2008/08/43-wks-4-and-5-facilitating-m...>
> >> - Techniques for Looking<http://foc08-artie.blogspot.com/2008/08/what-exactly-we-are-looking-f...>
> >> - People Who Share a Common Time for a Purpose<http://foc08-artie.blogspot.com/2008/08/people-who-share-common-time....>
> >> - Time is of the Essence<http://foc08-artie.blogspot.com/2008/08/time-is-of-essence.html>
> >> - Possible FOC Conference Projects<http://foc08-artie.blogspot.com/2008/08/my-assignment-projects.html>
> >> - Organizing According to Time<http://foc08-artie.blogspot.com/2008/08/reading-what-is-online-commun...>
> >> - First Assignment<http://foc08-artie.blogspot.com/2008/08/first-assignment-for-foc08-co...>
> >> - Community of Practice<http://foc08-artie.blogspot.com/2008/08/community-of-practice.html>
> >> - FOC08 <http://foc08-artie.blogspot.com/2008/08/foc08.html>
> >> - Glossary of Terms<http://foc08-artie.blogspot.com/2008/08/glossary-of-terms.html>

>
> >> 2008/8/25 Vida Thompson <vi...@tekotago.ac.nz>
>
> >>> Hi artie,
> >>> I would be keen to learn more about blogger. Count me in for the
> >>> workshop. I am in Alexandra, NZ same time zone as Leigh.
>
> >>> Cheers,
> >>> Vida

> >>> >>> artie <artistsforanar...@gmail.com> 08/26/08 7:10 AM >>>

>
> >>> Illya, what time zones are comfortable for you? I'm OK with CST, EST
> >>> and AST but will stretch myself a bit if there are not enough options.
> >>> Two people in the same neighborhood can do a blog workshop together
> >>> easily. I made a list of everyone who is in my neighborhood:
>
> >>>http://www.seanpmckee.net/blog/ Lima
>

> >>>http://nowpracticingcommunity.blogspot.com/Nancy Riffer - New York
> >>> State
>
> >>>http://curlygrl.blogspot.com/Bruna - Chicago
>
> >>>http://explorations.bloxi.jp/Carla Arena - Brasil

[artie]

OK. I'm going to have to air an issue now about facilitating online.
So smiles and dances and crookneck squash to everybody:) ... but here
goes - I think that any of you who are following my thinking on my
blog will know that I am suggesting dividing into groups. I have
divided the globe into three time zones but it's only relative. What I
suggest is that each of us find people who are nearest to us. Now
looking through this thread, I see why.

I'm perfectly aware that there is a window for NZ to meet with EST and
that +1GMT is OK with CST and so on. But looking through the thread
and the blogs I also have to juggle around all kinds of variables like
who has what format? Who said this? Who's doing that? I am advocating
the division of the group so that there are fewer people to have to
process.

Bee, Artie and Mirelle can constitute a group. Whatever projects we
want to work on does not matter but we probably are all on the same
conscious day so we have more options. We can also add Greg, Nancy,
and Sean. We might also shop around within our longitude and bring
others into the projects (if the projects live beyond this course)

A few people on one longitude can handle more and produce a more
ambitious project because we can communicate at a higher frequency. We
can improvise more sessions quickly and off the cuff. I'd like to get
one local club started and build it up. You who are not reside in our
zone can group according to your zone. We may write a constitution
that binds us together as one unit and then come together for our
conference.

This approach is going to raise a bunch of new issues but it has
potential to resolve alot of old issues that we need to get beyond.

What do you say?

On Aug 26, 5:38 pm, artie <artistsforanar...@gmail.com> wrote:
> OK. So how about this. Whatever we get goping on, we are going to need
> to have some understanding of eachothers time limits. So I suggest
> that we make a chart and everyone can put their name there. Here's a

> world map of time zones.http://www.physicalgeography.net/fundamentals/images/world_time2.gif

> > >>>http://nowpracticingcommunity.blogspot.com/NancyRiffer - New York

[Barbara Dieu]

Artie,
Another good tool for fixing the time and checking whether we can attend meetings at certain times is the World Clock.
http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedform.html

When I organize a workshop or meeting, I know that I am -3 UTC, so I check beforehand the time that is best and set it in UTC so other people know exactly what time it is in their cities.

So for instance, let's imagine that I am free at 8 pm (my local time in Sao Paulo) on Wednesday. I would set the world clock to 11 pm UTC Wednesday. The time is the same in UTC for all - but each city will show their own time. 
<http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?month=8&day=27&year=2008&hour=23&min=0&sec=0&p1=0>
This is a very long URL so I reduce it using tinyurl (which will lead me to the same address but makes it easier to post)
http://tinyurl.com/5rbfqq

I am not sure what kind of blogging facilitation people need, but I feel it is more efficient if they open an account on their own following some kind of tutorial (there are hundreds of them online- just google) and/or if very scared then some hand holding by being closely tutored  almost step by step by someone on skype or MSN . A big synchronous meeting on Elluminate is difficult because people have difficulty in following instructions all at the same time. Elluminate is  more efficient for a presentation/questions&answer or for people who would like to have more ideas/brainstorm on different uses of blogs online.

My two cents of real :-)

Warm regards from Brazil,
Bee

[mireille massue]

Hello Artie

 

I'm going to set one up and then give you the link.

 

It has nothing on it.  That will change

 

Mireille

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From: facilitating-on...@googlegroups.com [mailto:facilitating-on...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of artie

Sent: Tuesday, August 26, 2008 12:30 PM

[artie]

Actually Bee, that would make a better workshop. How about a Clocks and Time workshop? There are all kinds of maps and clocks that we could dig up and present and practice their uses with eachother. And we would be looking at the same platforms. I could use some more training regarding time issues and facilitating through them.

2008/8/26 Barbara Dieu <beeo...@gmail.com>

[Barbara Dieu]

Actually Bee, that would make a better workshop. How about a Clocks and Time workshop? There are all kinds of maps and clocks that we could dig up and present and practice their uses with eachother. And we would be looking at the same platforms. I could use some more training regarding time issues and facilitating through them.

time is a fascinating concept :-)
http://twinsite2000.tripod.com/

--

[artie]

Be ruled by time, the wisest counsellor of all.
Plutarch

2008/8/26 Barbara Dieu <beeo...@gmail.com>

[artie]

One always has time enough, if one will apply it well.
Goethe

2008/8/26 artie <artistsf...@gmail.com>

[Barbara Dieu]

Thank you Artie, sound advice :-)
Bee

[Leigh Blackall]

How about setting 3 times for Elluminate meetings. Those who make it to which ever meeting make that group. In the end you'll have 3 groups to progress with.

[Illya Arnet-Clark]

I'll be around tomorrow, Thursday at 8GMT.  I suggest meeting in Elluminate and then taking it from there. If anyone can't get into Elluminate, invite me to chat from here.

Hope to see some of you then!

Illya
http://illyasoet.wordpress.com

[Illya Arnet-Clark]

Nellie,
I'd love to have another session on WiZiQ. I've only been to one so far. Maybe you can join us (me) on Thursday and we can go there?

Illya
http://illyasoet.wordpress.com

[Illya Arnet-Clark]

Hi Bee,
Indeed  a fascinating subject, especially when you are trying to coordinate different zones!

Hugs

Illya
http://illyasoet.wordpress.com

[Barbara Dieu]

> Indeed  a fascinating subject, especially when you are trying to coordinate different zones!

Absolutely - not only different zones...but people and their own time/schedules :-)
Some food for thought  -  when a synchronous meeting is better or whether asynchronous mode will do.

Warm regards,
Bee

[artie]

Maybe we can move this discussion over to the "Keeping up with the
Times" thread?

http://groups.google.com/group/facilitating-online-communities/browse_thread/thread/c01332b556ed1a9d

What we are talking about now has a general effect upon this whole
course and all of the projects. The blog project is not going to fly
for now unless we can organize according to platform.

[artie]

I've got a lot of thoughts on this whole time issue. It strikes me
now, that the dividing of the last meeting into two meetings actually
constitutes two somewhat distinct groups. If we were to look at the
members who attended the first and second meeting, I think there would
be enough variation to warrant calling them separate clubs.

What I would like to do is establish a wide variety of clubs so that
the interested prospect could shop around and find the club that is
most comfortable, time-wise and demographics-wise.

I feel confident that we could reestablish a sensible terminology and
restore many traditional forms.

One word of caution. When we speak of zones, we are speaking of time,
not geography. So when I speak of three zones as 1) The Americas 2)
Europe, Middle East and Africa 3) Far East and South Pacific, it's
only a kind of representation, since any one living on an opposite
longitude but working the night shift could join whatever club was
most comfortable.

The ultimate idea is to treat time as if it were a geographical
limitation. How would grandma and grandpa have organized the
traditional service community on a national or international level
with everyone separated by physical divides? They did it locally. But
what we mean by "local", in an online context, is that people share
the same "window of consciousness". They share the same conscious day.
This is the "Common Ground" or "What is the Commonality?" that Bee and
ElderBob were inquiring about in the last meeting.

Again, with this approach, we are treating time as a physical divide
because it is! It is a physical divide along the lines of a latitudes
because the Earth is physically rotating.

On Aug 27, 9:33 am, artie <artistsforanar...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Maybe we can move this discussion over to the "Keeping up with the
> Times" thread?
>

> http://groups.google.com/group/facilitating-online-communities/browse...

[Sylvia Currie]

Meetings can be such a challenge to organize! As a facilitator I
always first ask myself the question Bee poses: "...when a synchronous

meeting is better or whether asynchronous mode will do."

I'm currently involved in planning a conference with a community of
educators in BC and so far our main mode of communication is scheduled
Elluminate sessions. I believe we could be much more productive if we
a) had more async conversations rather than waiting for meetings to
share ideas and make decisions, and b) used a wiki for planning so we
can hold our progress in common view. There is some resistance from
the group because they believe the synchronous meetings take less time
and are less disruptive to their regular work. Although sometimes the
flurry of email to find a meeting time that suits everybody makes up
for that!

When integrating synchronous sessions into community events (or my own
schedule) I also look closely at the design. Is it a presentation that
will be recorded? If so, how important is audience participation?
Another little story...Yesterday I was at a f2f conference and the
keynote speaker came in via Elluminate. The audience gathered together
in a physical space to watch. There were no online participants in
the Elluminate room. While there was some time at the end for
questions from the audience, there wasn't a great deal of interaction.
The presentation itself was just excellent (great speaker, interesting
topic, nice visuals, etc), but there was really no reason for it to be
a scheduled event. It could have easily been recorded and made
available for participants to review at any time. Perhaps a more
effective tool for Q&A would have been an asynchronous forum so that
the presentation could serve as an anchor for further dialogue.

And do we always need to schedule meetings? I value spontaneous
meetings as well. Some tools like Skype, Google status, etc are great
for showing that you are online and available. I wish my regular phone
would do that! A new habit I've noticed in the past few years is that
people will email me to see if I'm available for a phone call. I often
wonder what every happened to just picking up the phone and dialing! I
fear we might schedule our lives away! :-)

But if scheduled meetings are necessary, there are some nifty tools to
facilitate the process. Here are some I've used, in order of
preference:
http://www.doodle.ch/
http://www.meetingwizard.com/mwiz/home/default.cfm
http://www.evite.com/

Sylvia
http://blog.webbedfeat.com
.

>
> On Aug 27, 5:56 am, "Barbara Dieu" <beeonl...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > Indeed a fascinating subject, especially when you are trying to
>>
>> coordinate different zones!
>>
>> Absolutely - not only different zones...but people and their own
>> time/schedules :-)
>>
>>

>> Warm regards,
>> Bee
>>

[NELLIE DEUTSCH]

Hi Everyone,
I agree with Sylvia. The process of scheduling takes a lot of planning. Although the recordings are usually available, the live online experience may be very engaging if it's more than a lecture. Interactive sessions may have have strong impact on people. Active participation in some live online workshops are stimulating. Putting that aside, if you don't have time, join an asynchronous session via a CMS like Moodle. I think SCoPE,  Wiki, and Ning are excellent examples of effective learning via asynchronous discussions.

As much as I am a visual learner, I love "listening" to people's experiences and take advantage of the chat box to ask questions.

Thank you.
Nellie
http://.nelliemuller.blogspot.com

[artie]

I respectfully disagree. And this is a good instance of why I would disagree. Synchronous meetings give people more experience in participation. The reason why people didn't participate is because no one has taught them how. A synchronous meeting twice a months helps to definitely determine who the membership is, it allows the membership to be counted as a whole number, therefore it allows the membership to elect new members, because if you have a definite whole number you can calculate a majority.

This is an excellent example of why we need to restore traditional form such as meeting at a definite time and using more structured forms. We have an idea that is being presented by myself. I am one person. Now we have two people that are opposed and we may see a great many lining up on the opposition. So they will claim that since they outnumber me that they are a majority. And my only resort will be to try to outpost them.

Proper democratic form in such a case is first to give every one an equal voice. If we are going to give equal voice to everyone we need an ordinal form such as a traditional circle. Yet who on a message board has the training to participate in such a form?

But let's say that we give everyone an equal voice and I am still outnumbered. The next step is to argue in a debate form before third party. And in such a form we do not give the majority a voice grater than the minority. We give each side of the argument an equal hearing.

And it's a lack of understanding of basic democratic form that has allowed so many bad ideas to become the standard on the Internet. Because there was no appointed time for a meeting, There was no qualification for membership, there was no election of members, there was no count of the membership as a whole number, therefore, there was no correct count of  majority (which is a relative quantity, relative to the whole), there was no rational form for discussion, deliberation and decision.

2008/8/27 NELLIE DEUTSCH <nellie.mul...@gmail.com>

[artie]

Nellie, I agree with you. The idea of organizing people into
"conscious zones" is so that people have more options for meeting. We
don't have to organize large "global" meetings. The "local" club
becomes the regular meeting time.

Minhaaj ur Rehman is in Pakistan but works the night shift. So he just
goes to our club directory and picks times out that are most
comfortable. He visits the club and checks it's vibes. He has options.
But the club is small and easy to facilitate, easy to count the
membership, easy to tell who is active and who is not.

As a member of our global organization, he is welcome at any club as a
"visiting member", participating in our training programs but having
no voice or vote in the business meeting of that club but his vote
recorded at his home club.

> 2008/8/27 NELLIE DEUTSCH <nellie.muller.deut...@gmail.com>

>
> > Hi Everyone,
> > I agree with Sylvia. The process of scheduling takes a lot of planning.
> > Although the recordings are usually available, the live online experience
> > may be very engaging if it's more than a lecture. Interactive sessions may
> > have have strong impact on people. Active participation in some live online
> > workshops are stimulating. Putting that aside, if you don't have time, join
> > an asynchronous session via a CMS like Moodle. I think SCoPE, Wiki, and
> > Ning are excellent examples of effective learning via asynchronous
> > discussions.
>
> > As much as I am a visual learner, I love "listening" to people's
> > experiences and take advantage of the chat box to ask questions.
>
> > Thank you.
> > Nellie
> >http://.nelliemuller.blogspot.com
>

[NELLIE DEUTSCH]

Hi Artie,
Sorry about the semantics, but do you disagree that scheduling synchronous meetings takes planning? :)

Nellie

[NELLIE DEUTSCH]

H Artie,
Ok, so you agree with me, but were responding to someone else's thread. Hmm... I love this confusion because it shows just how valuable a live online synchronous meeting would be.
We can iron things out so much faster in a live virtual environment. How about using WiZiQ for the meetings? They are easy to set up and the sound is so much better than Elluminate and no java but flash which is so much faster.

Nellie
http://nelliemuller.blogspot.com

[Mary-Doug Wright]

Hi all

Just throwing a monkey wrench into the works, here :-)

While the map is accurate during Standard Time, here in BC Canada we
are on Daylight Saving Time for several more months, making us GMT -7
(not -8 as indicated on the map). I believe that applies in the US as
well (though I could be wrong). A question here - do other countries
represented among our number have Daylight Savings Time (which I
really hate - wreaks havoc with my internal clock every time we change
back and forth).

Cheers,
Mary-Doug

On Tue, Aug 26, 2008 at 3:38 PM, artie <artistsf...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> OK. So how about this. Whatever we get goping on, we are going to need
> to have some understanding of eachothers time limits. So I suggest
> that we make a chart and everyone can put their name there. Here's a
> world map of time zones.
> http://www.physicalgeography.net/fundamentals/images/world_time2.gif
>

<snip>
>

--
Mary-Doug Wright, B.Sc., M.L.S.
Apex Information
#101 - 1857 West 4th Avenue
Vancouver, BC Canada V6J 1M4
604-731-8562 (p)
604-730-9608 (f)
mdwr...@apexinformation.com
http://www.apexinformation.com

[artie]

I think that anyone within 20º of the Equator does not use DST. They don't need it. I suppose at the Poles too. It's used mainly after the tropical latitudes.

If people are organized according to time zone, we just meet by our local times. If there is any conversion it's extremely simple. We can get a 10 to 15 member club established around EST and CST that extends from the North Pole to the South and there would be little effort required in conversion. That would be a local club. Local by time, not geography. The geography is incidental.

2008/8/27 Mary-Doug Wright <apex.inf...@gmail.com>

[Barbara Dieu]

> As a member of our global organization, he is welcome at any club as a "visiting member", participating in our training programs but having no voice or vote in the business meeting of that club but his vote recorded at his home club.

Artie,
I respect your initiative and experiment in organizing everyone in time zones in order to facilitate this online course, but not sure about what you mean by "our global organization", "our training programs and business meetings".  Anyway, I have my doubts whether  time should be what regulates the membership to the "club" you propose and not sure I want to belong to a "club" either, be it online or in real life.  This kind of organization  may surely facilitate some people's lives but restricts them as well - the discourse and practices become stale and repetitive.  One of the beauties of the web is that you can communicate and establish relationships/communities beyond these physical limitations. I communicate with NZ, AU, US, Asia and Europe when I can and need and vice-versa and use UTC.

I have been a member of real clubs for years but not sure I appreciate the "select few" atmosphere that develops with time. By being member in clubs, I have found I really appreciate the commons, non proprietary wide open spaces where you can mingle with different people  and not be bound by places and times - in short - have the freedom to roam :-)

> "Synchronous meetings give people more experience in participation."

I agree with you that a fixed time and place helps form a habit, that people learn to socialize in contact with others and that this "sense of belonging and doing things together" tends to bind people. I have held regular synchronous meetings on different platforms for several years but find people have less and less time to spend on them - they'd rather be with their families or with their friends in real life.

Also, as Sylvia says, there are so many platforms online on which we can meet and exchange anytime, when we are available and open - t Skype /Twitter/mobile (not yet)- Pedro and I sometimes meet at blogcamps/barcamps and in a bar for a beer :-)

Anyway...I love this asynchronous discussion - very democratic - everyone can throw in their two or more cents - it can be read, re-thought and reconsidered.  Imagine if we were all trying to hold the floor on Wiziq or Elluminate all the time!  Just kidding - synchronous meetings do have their value but, IMHO,  should be used wisely.
Warm regards from Brazil,

[mireille massue]

I just created a blog for this course.

 

The URL is http://mireilleslearningblog.blogspot.com/

 

May I also ask for an update?  I have been receiving so many emails I'm not sure were we are as a group, and what we are doing.

 

I'm now very lost.

 

Thank you

 

Mireille Massue

Email:  mirei...@gmail.com

Skype:  mireillem10

Blog:  http://mireilleslearningblog.blogspot.com/

 

 

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From: facilitating-on...@googlegroups.com [mailto:facilitating-on...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of NELLIE DEUTSCH
Sent: Tuesday, August 26, 2008 5:46 PM

To: facilitating-on...@googlegroups.com
Subject: ::{{FOC}}:: Re: Blog Settings and Issues

Can you please add your blog to FOC08 WE?

Thank you.
Nellie

On Tue, Aug 26, 2008 at 2:22 PM, mireille massue <mirei...@gmail.com> wrote:

I'm going to be using Wordpress.

 

I've just started a course on blogging. 

 

It should be interesting.

 

M

From: facilitating-on...@googlegroups.com [mailto:facilitating-on...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of artie

Sent: Tuesday, August 26, 2008 9:29 AM

To: facilitating-on...@googlegroups.com
Subject: ::{{FOC}}:: Re: Blog Settings and Issues

Hi Mireille,

Nice to meet you. What blogging format do you use? I have Blogger.

2008/8/25 mireille massue <mirei...@gmail.com>

I'm in EST.  Toronto Canada Time.

 

I'm okay with any time.  I'm use to getting up in the middle of the night for a class.

 

Mireille

 

From: facilitating-on...@googlegroups.com [mailto:facilitating-on...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of artie

Sent: Monday, August 25, 2008 6:49 PM
To: facilitating-on...@googlegroups.com
Subject: ::{{FOC}}:: Re: Blog Settings and Issues

Thanks for so much interest from so many people, but I think we will get more bang for our buck if we split into three separate groups according to time zone:

• Asia and the South Pacific

• The Americas

• Europe, Middle East and Africa

With these three time zones, we open up more options for scheduling meetings. My blog is kicking off with several posts concerning facilitation of time.

• Traditional Community
• Latitudes and Longitudes (The Comfort Zone)
• Conscious Day Clubs
• Mini-Meetings
• 4.3 Wks 4 and 5: Facilitating, moderating, or teac...
• Techniques for Looking
• People Who Share a Common Time for a Purpose

• Time is of the Essence

• Possible FOC Conference Projects
• Organizing According to Time
• First Assignment
• Community of Practice
• FOC08
• Glossary of Terms

2008/8/25 Vida Thompson <vi...@tekotago.ac.nz>

Hi artie,
I would be keen to learn more about blogger. Count me in for the workshop. I am in Alexandra, NZ same time zone as Leigh.

Cheers,
Vida

>>> artie <artistsf...@gmail.com> 08/26/08 7:10 AM >>>

Illya, what time zones are comfortable for you? I'm OK with CST, EST
and AST but will stretch myself a bit if there are not enough options.
Two people in the same neighborhood can do a blog workshop together
easily. I made a list of everyone who is in my neighborhood:

http://www.seanpmckee.net/blog/  Lima

http://nowpracticingcommunity.blogspot.com/ Nancy Riffer  - New York

State

http://curlygrl.blogspot.com/ Bruna - Chicago

http://explorations.bloxi.jp/ Carla Arena - Brasil

http://phefland.wordpress.com/about/  Brasil

Any of you people want to put a small group together?

On Aug 24, 10:46 am, "Illya Arnet-Clark" <illya.ar...@gmail.com>
wrote:
> Great idea! I'm willing to join up.
> One thing that is extremely helpful in following comments is cocommenthttp://www.cocomment.com/
>
> I'm gmt +1.
>
> Illyahttp://illyasoet.wordpress.com
>
> On Sun, Aug 24, 2008 at 4:13 AM, NELLIE DEUTSCH <
>
> nellie.muller.deut...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Hi,
> > I am in Israel, but am fine with PST,  Australia, or New Zealand.
>
> > Thank you.
> > Nellie
>
> > On Sat, Aug 23, 2008 at 6:44 PM, artie <artistsforanar...@gmail.com>wrote:
>
> >> If there are enough people to do blogging workshops, I would recommend
> >> splitting up into three time zones so that the options for scheduling 2 or 3
> >> people drastically increases. We can post our chats here in the blogging
> >> thread for everyone's benefit.
>
> >> I'm on Central Standard now. So anyone within 2 or 3 time zones would be
> >> practical. The closer you are to me the better.
>

> > --
> > Nellie Deutsch
> > Doctoral Student
> > Educational Leadership
> > Curriculum and Instruction
> >http://www.nelliemuller.com
> >http://www.integrating-technology.com/pd
> >http://www.building-relationship.com/education
> >http://blendedlear.ning.com

[mireille massue]

I have now added my name to the later comers list  (eek)

 

Mireille Massue - http://mireilleslearningblog.blogspot.com/

[Vida Thompson]

Hi Guys,
I would love to join you to chat about everyday things especially food. What time zones are you in? I got a bit lost with the time discussion & have never been on WiAiQ so may need some guidance.
Cheers,
Vida

>>> "Illya Arnet-Clark" <illya...@gmail.com> 08/27/08 9:58 PM >>>

Nellie,
I'd love to have another session on WiZiQ. I've only been to one so far.
Maybe you can join us (me) on Thursday and we can go there?

Illya
http://illyasoet.wordpress.com

On Tue, Aug 26, 2008 at 11:49 PM, NELLIE DEUTSCH <
nellie.mul...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi Bee,

> I just returned from a session with Cristina Costa on WiZiQ<http://www.wiziq.com/public/session_details.aspx?detail=24979_Online-Learning-Networks-and-Impact-on-Personal-Learning-Space_teacher_cristinacost_>.

> It was incredible to be able to learn, share experiences and just chat about
> everyday things like food.
>

> Nellie

>
> On Tue, Aug 26, 2008 at 7:16 AM, Barbara Dieu <beeo...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> >The other question is what exactly people expect when we get together to
>> look at blogs. Is it pure mechanics, or is it enhancing two-way
>> communication?
>> Good question, Illya. I would add a why to the combo :-)
>>
>> What it is (Observe and Define)
>> How to use it (Mechanics - technical and communicative)
>> Why use it (Reflect and Understand)
>>
>> Warm regards,

>> Bee
>>
>> --
>> Barbara Dieu
>> http://dekita.org
>> http://beespace.net
>>
>>
>>
>
>

[artie]

Well, nothing stops us from mingling online. However, I don't think
that mingling should hinder us from having formal meetings. I feel
restricted in expressing myself.

A democratic form is not everyone speaking as much as they want,
whenever they want. I'm talking about the democratic arts, a
discipline that develops greater freedom of expression through
varieties of ordinal forms.

How can we possibly handle a conflict if we don't know traditional
form? How can we count a majority if we don't begin with a whole
number? If the circuit is open then we have no whole number. Then we
can't count any relative quantities like a majority.

What happens with random posting is that the moderator ends up making
the decisions. The moderator gives permission via email to who is
allowed into the forum because the membership do not know even the
basic deliberative forms for election of it's own membership.

And if this turns into an argument it will be a great testimony to the
weaknesses of random open circuits, because we have no membership, and
cannot count a vote nor a majority. We don't know who is in and who is
out. Anybody can come in here and become a member because there are no
standards. W can't debate because a debate allow one voice to the
majority and one voice to the minority. But randomness destroys that.
The minority gets drowned out by the majority.

The community has a right to hear, a right to the best listening
experinces, a responsibility to listen, a right to speak and a
responsibility to respond. Ordinal forms ensure that those rights and
responsibilities are protected and nurtured.

[NELLIE DEUTSCH]

Hi Vida,
Here is a session I set up to for a chat:
http://www.wiziq.com/tutorsession/detail.aspx?id=14E5BDB860E6498791A620FA800EA71E
Please join in 15 min.

Thank you.
Nellie

[artie]

Welcome (Back),

I feel like an old friend is returning!

2008/8/27 mireille massue <mirei...@gmail.com>

[Vida Thompson]

Hi Nellie,
Would really like to use WiZiQ & chat about food. If you are planning another session please let me know.
Thanks.
Cheers,
Vida

>>> "NELLIE DEUTSCH" <nellie.mul...@gmail.com> 08/27/08 9:49 AM >>>

Hi Bee,
I just returned from a session with Cristina Costa on
WiZiQ<http://www.wiziq.com/public/session_details.aspx?detail=24979_Online-Learning-Networks-and-Impact-on-Personal-Learning-Space_teacher_cristinacost_>.
It was incredible to be able to learn, share experiences and just chat about
everyday things like food.

Nellie

On Tue, Aug 26, 2008 at 7:16 AM, Barbara Dieu <beeo...@gmail.com> wrote:

> >The other question is what exactly people expect when we get together to
> look at blogs. Is it pure mechanics, or is it enhancing two-way
> communication?
> Good question, Illya. I would add a why to the combo :-)
>
> What it is (Observe and Define)
> How to use it (Mechanics - technical and communicative)
> Why use it (Reflect and Understand)
>
> Warm regards,
> Bee
>
> --
> Barbara Dieu
> http://dekita.org
> http://beespace.net
>
> >
>

[NELLIE DEUTSCH]

Try this link now: http://www.wiziq.com/tutorsession/detail.aspx?id=14E5BDB860E6498791A620FA800EA71E

[mireille massue]

Why is it I'm able to reply to the group

I'm unable to send my outlook email

Mireille

-----Original Message-----
From: facilitating-on...@googlegroups.com
[mailto:facilitating-on...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Vida
Thompson
Sent: Wednesday, August 27, 2008 5:36 PM
To: facilitating-on...@googlegroups.com
Subject: ::{{FOC}}:: Re: Blog Settings and Issues

[artie]

BIG BLOODY BLOG ANNOUNCEMENT

I have a blogroll in the sidebar of my blog. I originally put everyone
on it but am now trimming it down. I may eventually only feature the
top 10 or 15 blogs in this course. If you leave you blog without an
entry for 4 weeks, I am dropping your blog. If you make a post, you
can contact me on my bloody blog to let me know that you are alive and
kicking.

P.S. I may move the cutoff date to 3 weeks and then to 2 weeks.

love and hugs and kisses from your friend
artie :)

On Aug 27, 6:07 pm, "mireille massue" <mireille...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Why is it I'm able to reply to the group
>
> I'm unable to send my outlook email
>
> Mireille
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: facilitating-on...@googlegroups.com
>
> [mailto:facilitating-on...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Vida
> Thompson
> Sent: Wednesday, August 27, 2008 5:36 PM
> To: facilitating-on...@googlegroups.com

> Subject: ::{{FOC}}:: Re:BlogSettings and Issues

>
> Hi Guys,
> I would love to join you to chat about everyday things especially food. What
> time zones are you in? I got a bit lost with the time discussion & have
> never been on WiAiQ so may need some guidance.
> Cheers,
> Vida
>

> >>> "Illya Arnet-Clark" <illya.ar...@gmail.com> 08/27/08 9:58 PM >>>

> Nellie,
> I'd love to have another session on WiZiQ. I've only been to one so far.
> Maybe you can join us (me) on Thursday and we can go there?
>

> Illyahttp://illyasoet.wordpress.com

>
> On Tue, Aug 26, 2008 at 11:49 PM, NELLIE DEUTSCH <
> nellie.muller.deut...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Hi Bee,
> > I just returned from a session with Cristina Costa on
> WiZiQ<http://www.wiziq.com/public/session_details.aspx?detail=24979_Online-L

> earning-Networks-and-Impact-on-Personal-Learning-Space_teacher_cristinacost­_

> >.
> > It was incredible to be able to learn, share experiences and just chat
> > about everyday things like food.
>
> > Nellie
>

> > On Tue, Aug 26, 2008 at 7:16 AM, Barbara Dieu <beeonl...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >> >The other question is what exactly people expect when we get
> >> >together to
> >> look at blogs. Is it pure mechanics, or is it enhancing two-way
> >> communication?
> >> Good question, Illya. I would add a why to the combo :-)
>
> >> What it is (Observe and Define)
> >> How to use it (Mechanics - technical and communicative) Why use it
> >> (Reflect and Understand)
>
> >> Warm regards,
> >> Bee
>
> >> --
> >> Barbara Dieu
> >>http://dekita.org
> >>http://beespace.net
>
> > --
> > Nellie Deutsch
> > Doctoral Student
> > Educational Leadership
> > Curriculum and Instruction
> >http://www.nelliemuller.com
> >http://www.integrating-technology.com/pd
> >http://www.building-relationship.com/education

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[alexanderhayes]

When you've refined it down to one....your own....I'll add you to my
blogroll.

Bloody bloody :)

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[NELLIE DEUTSCH]

I think it may be more pleasant to review some netiquette guidelines when responding.

[alexanderhayes]

Here's another - http://nswlearnscope.com/wiki/index.php?title=Community_Guidelines

Reductionism is as much a threat as pleasantism is a valued
contribution.

My point was made ......to alert Artie that blogrolls are as useful as
spam-taggers in Twitter.

On Sep 13, 3:11 pm, "NELLIE DEUTSCH" <nellie.muller.deut...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> I think it may be more pleasant to review some netiquette

> guidelines<http://hagar.up.ac.za/catts/learner/projects/flames/flamed.htm>when

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[artie]

Twitter is spam. People who use Twitter are spammers. Fortunately, the Supreme Court now sides with the spammers. Hooray for the spammers!! The Internet is spam. This message is spam.

 

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