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Leigh Blackall  
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From: "Leigh Blackall" <leighblack...@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2008 11:14:33 +1200
Local: Mon, Aug 4 2008 7:14 pm
Subject: Orientation complete? What is an online com...

Hello all.. the course blog has been updated. Now I am moving onto creating
that definative list of our blogs (thanks to all who have given a hand with
that btw).

Please make sure you have the course blog in your RSS News readers :)

Hope to see many of you in the meeting room 4 hours from now :)


 
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From: "Jeffrey Keefer" <jeff...@silenceandvoice.com>
Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2008 20:06:37 -0400
Local: Mon, Aug 4 2008 8:06 pm
Subject: RE: ::{{FOC}}:: Orientation complete? What is an online com...

Leigh-

I cannot add the RSS feed for the wiki-my reader says the link is broken. Do
you know if it is working?

BTW, can you give the blog address one more time here for those who may need
it?

Thank you.

-----
Jeffrey Keefer
jeff...@silenceandvoice.com

Blog: http://silenceandvoice.com <http://silenceandvoice.com/>

Website: http://www.jeffreykeefer.com <http://www.jeffreykeefer.com/>

From: facilitating-online-communities@googlegroups.com
[mailto:facilitating-online-communities@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Leigh
Blackall
Sent: Monday, August 04, 2008 7:15 PM
To: facilitating-online-communities@googlegroups.com
Subject: ::{{FOC}}:: Orientation complete? What is an online com...

Hello all.. the course blog has been updated. Now I am moving onto creating
that definative list of our blogs (thanks to all who have given a hand with
that btw).

Please make sure you have the course blog in your RSS News readers :)

Hope to see many of you in the meeting room 4 hours from now :)


 
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 More options Aug 4 2008, 8:56 pm
From: "Wayne Anderson" <weand...@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2008 20:56:59 -0400
Local: Mon, Aug 4 2008 8:56 pm
Subject: Re: ::{{FOC}}:: Re: Orientation complete? What is an online com...

Jeffrey,

Here is the course blog link -
http://facilitatingonlinecommunities.blogspot.com/

Wayne

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From: "Mary Loftus" <loftus.m...@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2008 02:19:35 +0100
Local: Mon, Aug 4 2008 9:19 pm
Subject: Re: ::{{FOC}}:: Orientation complete? What is an online com...

Hi Leigh & All

I am trying to stay up for the 4am meeting - the mind is willing…. but the
body is weak!  It was a holiday weekend here in Ireland and the kids dragged
us all around a nearby agricultural show today. <yawn...>

Thank you everyone for all your hard work last week.  I learned a lot and I
have ferreted away lots of great resources which I hope to process when I
have more time.  I was pretty tied up last week - so I'm afraid I was a bit
of a 'Miss Minimum Requirements'.  This week will be pretty busy too - but I
hope to be able to contribute more.

One of the recurring themes for me last week was around the whole process of
kicking off new events.  I put a short
blogpost<http://livnlern.blogspot.com/>together on some of my
experiences and I would love to hear how others
tackle that all-important first week.

'Hope to see you later!

Mary

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Leigh Blackall  
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 More options Aug 4 2008, 9:44 pm
From: "Leigh Blackall" <leighblack...@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2008 13:44:31 +1200
Local: Mon, Aug 4 2008 9:44 pm
Subject: Re: ::{{FOC}}:: Re: Orientation complete? What is an online com...

Hi everyone. Nice post Mary :)

Jeffery.. I don't think there was an RSS feed for the wiki before - but I
added one for you:
http://wikieducator.org/index.php?title=Facilitating_online_communiti...

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Jeffrey Keefer  
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 More options Aug 4 2008, 9:59 pm
From: "Jeffrey Keefer" <jeff...@silenceandvoice.com>
Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2008 21:59:47 -0400
Local: Mon, Aug 4 2008 9:59 pm
Subject: RE: ::{{FOC}}:: Re: Orientation complete? What is an online com...

Leigh, I am still getting an error with it. FeedDemon verifies feeds before
it adds them, and it tells me something is wrong with it.

Is anybody else having an issue with it?

Thank you.

-----
Jeffrey Keefer
jeff...@silenceandvoice.com

Blog: http://silenceandvoice.com <http://silenceandvoice.com/>

Website: http://www.jeffreykeefer.com <http://www.jeffreykeefer.com/>

From: facilitating-online-communities@googlegroups.com
[mailto:facilitating-online-communities@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Leigh
Blackall
Sent: Monday, August 04, 2008 9:45 PM
To: facilitating-online-communities@googlegroups.com
Subject: ::{{FOC}}:: Re: Orientation complete? What is an online com...

Hi everyone. Nice post Mary :)

Jeffery.. I don't think there was an RSS feed for the wiki before - but I
added one for you:
http://wikieducator.org/index.php?title=Facilitating_online_communities
<http://wikieducator.org/index.php?title=Facilitating_online_communiti...
ion=feed&feed=rss> &action=feed&feed=rss

On Tue, Aug 5, 2008 at 1:19 PM, Mary Loftus <loftus.m...@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi Leigh & All

I am trying to stay up for the 4am meeting - the mind is willing.. but the
body is weak!  It was a holiday weekend here in Ireland and the kids dragged
us all around a nearby agricultural show today. <yawn...>

Thank you everyone for all your hard work last week.  I learned a lot and I
have ferreted away lots of great resources which I hope to process when I
have more time.  I was pretty tied up last week - so I'm afraid I was a bit
of a 'Miss Minimum Requirements'.  This week will be pretty busy too - but I
hope to be able to contribute more.

One of the recurring themes for me last week was around the whole process of
kicking off new events.  I put a short blogpost
<http://livnlern.blogspot.com/>  together on some of my experiences and I
would love to hear how others tackle that all-important first week.

'Hope to see you later!

Mary

On 8/5/08, Leigh Blackall <leighblack...@gmail.com> wrote:

Hello all.. the course blog has been updated. Now I am moving onto creating
that definative list of our blogs (thanks to all who have given a hand with
that btw).

Please make sure you have the course blog in your RSS News readers :)

Hope to see many of you in the meeting room 4 hours from now :)

--
--
Leigh Blackall
+64(0)21736539
skype - leigh_blackall
SL - Leroy Goalpost
http://learnonline.wordpress.com


 
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Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2008 19:09:27 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Mon, Aug 4 2008 10:09 pm
Subject: Re: ::{{FOC}}:: Re: Orientation complete? What is an online com...
Whats the meeting room url again ?

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From: "Leigh Blackall" <leighblack...@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2008 14:40:41 +1200
Local: Mon, Aug 4 2008 10:40 pm
Subject: Re: ::{{FOC}}:: Re: Orientation complete? What is an online com...

> Whats the meeting room url again?

http://tinyurl.com/6ne2uv

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 More options Aug 5 2008, 2:22 am
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Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2008 16:22:03 +1000
Local: Tues, Aug 5 2008 2:22 am
Subject: Re: ::{{FOC}}:: Orientation complete? What is an online com...

Hello Leigh

I'm afraid I stumbled right at the start and before I knew it the horse had bolted!

As a newbie it's all a bit overwhelming, but I'm learning a lot just watching how things are unfolding.

Many thanks

Peter


 
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 More options Aug 5 2008, 2:55 am
From: "Leigh Blackall" <leighblack...@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2008 18:55:05 +1200
Local: Tues, Aug 5 2008 2:55 am
Subject: Re: ::{{FOC}}:: Re: Orientation complete? What is an online com...

Hi Peter,

That's *good* to hear. Good in a sense that we need to know if people are
feeling swamped and if there is anything we can do to help. If you
refer tothe wiki<http://www.wikieducator.org/Facilitating_online_communities>,
in week 2 there is a link to the recording of the meeting we had today. In
that recording is a demo of how to use Bloglines to subscribe to RSS feeds
(week 1) and a bit of a start to some of the things we are now considering
in week 2-3.

Remember, the email forum (which I suspect you might be referring to when
you say the horse has bolted) is over and above the requirements of the
course that are listed in the wiki.

Let us know if there is anything I/we can help you with - or if you have a
question about how the course is set up and unfolding for you..

Regards
Leigh

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cristina costa  
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From: "cristina costa" <cristinac...@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2008 08:38:36 +0100
Local: Tues, Aug 5 2008 3:38 am
Subject: Re: ::{{FOC}}:: Re: Orientation complete? What is an online com...

Hi Jeffrey,

which Reader are you uisng?
I am using google RSS reader (tutorial hre:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=65iL0Q97RCg ) and this Link:
http://wikieducator.org/index.php?title=Facilitating_online_communiti...
worked for me.
Please let us know how you get on.

The course blog can be accessed here:
http://facilitatingonlinecommunities.blogspot.com/

Cris

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<jeff...@silenceandvoice.com>wrote:

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Twitter: http://twitter.com/cristinacost

 
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From: olubodun olufemi <ojolubo...@yahoo.com>
Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2008 02:58:00 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: Re: ::{{FOC}}:: Re: Orientation complete? What is an online com...

Hi
I have limited knowledge of RSS.
Could you say some more thing about it. I just know is used to send quick information to subscriber. Waht is the use and importance here.
Then you said google RSS. Any more information?
Olufemi

Olubodun Olufemi J. [ CDT; RDT (Nig) M.Ed; Pg Dip. Ed; Pg Dip. E-Teaching & E-course Dev. (UNU/GVU)]
University of Lagos, College of Medicine,
School of Dental Sciences,
P.M.B. 12003, Lagos Nigeria.
Mobile:+2348066389422
Office: 23401-4802011
http://www.elearningeuropa.info/files/myprofile/curriculum/24747_cv.doc
eFacilitator
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www.nabuur.com

--- On Tue, 8/5/08, cristina costa <cristinac...@gmail.com> wrote:

From: cristina costa <cristinac...@gmail.com>
Subject: ::{{FOC}}:: Re: Orientation complete? What is an online com...
To: facilitating-online-communities@googlegroups.com
Date: Tuesday, August 5, 2008, 3:38 AM

Hi Jeffrey,

which Reader are you uisng?
I am using google RSS reader (tutorial hre: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=65iL0Q97RCg ) and this Link:
http://wikieducator.org/index.php?title=Facilitating_online_communiti... has worked for me.
Please let us know how you get on.

The course blog can be accessed here: http://facilitatingonlinecommunities.blogspot.com/

Cris

On Tue, Aug 5, 2008 at 1:06 AM, Jeffrey Keefer <jeff...@silenceandvoice.com> wrote:

Leigh-
 
I cannot add the RSS feed for the wiki—my reader says the link is broken. Do you know if it is working?
 
BTW, can you give the blog address one more time here for those who may need it?
 
Thank you.
 
-----
Jeffrey Keefer
jeff...@silenceandvoice.com
 
Blog: http://silenceandvoice.com
Website: http://www.jeffreykeefer.com
 

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Site: http://www.knowmansland.com/
Skype: navysternchen
Twitter: http://twitter.com/cristinacost


 
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From: "cristina costa" <cristinac...@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2008 11:23:20 +0100
Local: Tues, Aug 5 2008 6:23 am
Subject: Re: ::{{FOC}}:: Re: Orientation complete? What is an online com...

Sure!
I will share the little I know...

RSS feed is actually quite important in the life of cybernauts like us - ;-)
Iit is a very handy tool for blog readers.

In a very non-geek language (LOL) , RSS Feed is a fairly easy way to be
notified about the update of content in someone's blog, site, wiki, etc by
subscribing to those websites via a specific web address

How is this possible? There are these web tools called RSS feed aggregators
(also known as RSS feed readers) you can sign up to for free. After that you
just add the web addresses (URLs) of the blogs, sites, etc you want to
follow and all the newly published information will be sent to your reader
tool. You no longer have to constantly check every single blog to see if it
has been updated.The updates will come to you as its contents will directly
be fed into your rss reader (you just have to check your RSS reader). In
other words, you only have to check one single place where all the blogs you
read come together. Can it get any better than this?! :-)

There are many rss readers available on the web. I used protopages
<http://protopage.com/>in the past, and now I turned into
igoogle<http://www.google.com/ig>and combined it with  google
reader <http://www.google.com/help/reader/tour.html>, so that every time I
log in to my computer it just "jumps into my face", since I have set igoogle
as my home page! ...
But that is just my strategy to keep up to date with the blogsphere. Here is
old my protopage <http://protopage.com/cristinacost>, in case you want to
have a look at it.

If you are a visual learner, you might consider netvibes, because it will
allow you to organize the blogs you read in a more visual way. See Joao's
example: http://www.netvibes.com/joaoalves#FOC08 He created a Tab where he
added all the FOC08 participants' blogs. Now imagine Joao goes back to his
school after the summer break and wants to intruduce his students to
blogging, he can create another tab in his netvibes to aggregate his
students' blogs, and also share it with the students. So things get pretty
organized. Mash-ups like netvibes are quite handy in this sense.

Bloglines <http://www.bloglines.com/> is also another good rss readers,
which you can subscribe to for free.

For additional info about RSS feed Irecommend you watch RSS Feed in Plain
English <http://www.commoncraft.com/rss_plain_english> by Common Craft. It's
a great video.

I hope I was able to help you. RSS feeds are not an easy concept to explain,
but once we start using it and looking at how other people are using it gets
clearer...at least it did for me.

If you have more questions, gives us a shot!

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> Hi
> I have limited knowledge of RSS.
> Could you say some more thing about it. I just know is used to send quick
> information to subscriber. Waht is the use and importance here.
> Then you said google RSS. Any more information?
> Olufemi

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From: "Leigh Blackall" <leighblack...@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2008 22:43:35 +1200
Local: Tues, Aug 5 2008 6:43 am
Subject: Re: ::{{FOC}}:: Re: Orientation complete? What is an online com...

Well done Cristina!

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Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2008 03:44:47 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Tues, Aug 5 2008 6:44 am
Subject: Re: ::{{FOC}}:: Re: Orientation complete? What is an online com...

Hi Leigh,
I am not following the discussion to my satisfation. I am unclear on where the discussion is taking place.
Although I responded to some mails but not satisfied.
I however will like to know how you are able to cope with the overwhelming mails coming in. As an online facilitator for communities I can understand how difficult to read mails swamping on you like that.
Could you tell me how you do it especially if you have to contend with poor interet server and services here in Nigeria.
 
Olufemi

Olubodun Olufemi J. [ CDT; RDT (Nig) M.Ed; Pg Dip. Ed; Pg Dip. E-Teaching & E-course Dev. (UNU/GVU)]
University of Lagos, College of Medicine,
School of Dental Sciences,
P.M.B. 12003, Lagos Nigeria.
Mobile:+2348066389422
Office: 23401-4802011
http://www.elearningeuropa.info/files/myprofile/curriculum/24747_cv.doc
eFacilitator
Dodo Village
www.nabuur.com

--- On Tue, 8/5/08, Leigh Blackall <leighblack...@gmail.com> wrote:

From: Leigh Blackall <leighblack...@gmail.com>
Subject: ::{{FOC}}:: Re: Orientation complete? What is an online com...
To: facilitating-online-communities@googlegroups.com
Date: Tuesday, August 5, 2008, 2:55 AM

Hi Peter,

That's *good* to hear. Good in a sense that we need to know if people are feeling swamped and if there is anything we can do to help. If you refer to the wiki, in week 2 there is a link to the recording of the meeting we had today. In that recording is a demo of how to use Bloglines to subscribe to RSS feeds (week 1) and a bit of a start to some of the things we are now considering in week 2-3.

Remember, the email forum (which I suspect you might be referring to when you say the horse has bolted) is over and above the requirements of the course that are listed in the wiki.

Let us know if there is anything I/we can help you with - or if you have a question about how the course is set up and unfolding for you..

Regards
Leigh

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Hello Leigh
 
I'm afraid I stumbled right at the start and before I knew it the horse had bolted!
 
As a newbie it's all a bit overwhelming, but I'm learning a lot just watching how things are unfolding.
 
Many thanks
 
Peter


 
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From: olubodun olufemi <ojolubo...@yahoo.com>
Date: Wed, 6 Aug 2008 08:03:32 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Wed, Aug 6 2008 11:03 am
Subject: Re: ::{{FOC}}:: Orientation complete? What is an online com...

I wish I could join some of the online events.
In any case I think online community could be described as 'real' community of people with definite objective. Sometimes these objectives are defined and at another they are not. I am not comfortable with describibng tthem as virtual as some do, I rather think they are real but different in the medium that connects them.
Is  anyone in agreement with my definition?

Olubodun Olufemi J. [ CDT; RDT (Nig) M.Ed; Pg Dip. Ed; Pg Dip. E-Teaching & E-course Dev. (UNU/GVU)]
University of Lagos, College of Medicine,
School of Dental Sciences,
P.M.B. 12003, Lagos Nigeria.
Mobile:+2348066389422
Office: 23401-4802011
http://www.elearningeuropa.info/files/myprofile/curriculum/24747_cv.doc
eFacilitator
Dodo Village
www.nabuur.com

--- On Mon, 8/4/08, Leigh Blackall <leighblack...@gmail.com> wrote:

From: Leigh Blackall <leighblack...@gmail.com>
Subject: ::{{FOC}}:: Orientation complete? What is an online com...
To: facilitating-online-communities@googlegroups.com
Date: Monday, August 4, 2008, 7:14 PM

Hello all.. the course blog has been updated. Now I am moving onto creating that definative list of our blogs (thanks to all who have given a hand with that btw).

Please make sure you have the course blog in your RSS News readers :)

Hope to see many of you in the meeting room 4 hours from now :)


 
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Date: Thu, 7 Aug 2008 09:20:40 +1000
Local: Wed, Aug 6 2008 7:20 pm
Subject: Re: ::{{FOC}}:: Re: Orientation complete? What is an online com...

Hi Olubodun,

Your statement about not referring to online communities as being "virtual",
but rather different in medium got me to thinking and I've since written a
blog post about it.  I agree and think it's a really important distinction
to make.  By calling the community 'virtual' rather than the area in which
they congregate or interact I think you imply a whole lot about the
mission/objectives/values that the community is founded upon.  I also think
it hits upon some of the arbitrary or perhaps unnecessary distinctions
between online learning and learning, where the medium is inadvertently
placed ahead of the mission - the mission being the empowering of learners
and facilitation of their learning processes.

I think this distinction creates divisions in education which can (and
arguably do) threaten the cohesion of the learning process and threaten to
distract from the core objectives of the community.

Anyway my post is located here if anyone is interested:
http://techticker.net/2008/08/06/differentiating-medium-from-mission/

Cheers,

*Mike Bogle*
Email: michael.s.bo...@gmail.com
Blog: http://techticker.net

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From: "Leigh Blackall" <leighblack...@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 7 Aug 2008 11:57:07 +1200
Local: Wed, Aug 6 2008 7:57 pm
Subject: Re: ::{{FOC}}:: Re: Orientation complete? What is an online com...

Hello Olubodum,

I think Mike's very valid point extends your point quite nicely and I hope
Olubodum will join Mike over on his blog to take the the discussion
further.. which leads me to answering Olubodum's specific questions on how
to manage all this "discussion".

The first thing I must reiterate is that you should not feel as though you
must follow a single discussion. This email forum is too big and too diverse
to be manageable for most people Olubodum - so you must make connections
with individuals in the course and build your own discussion space through
blogs, and then through the other communication mediums we will look at and
trial together in the coming weeks.

But if you feel as though you do want to keep trying to follow the email
forum - here's a few tips to help you manage:

Olubodum, you may have noticed that the emails are coming in with a subject
line prefix ::{{FOC}}::
Your email client can be set up to recognise that prefix and automatically
send the email to a folder other than your inbox for you to open and read
when you allocate the time. This will remove the flood of email from your
inbox. While this works for many people, it is not how I do it.

Other people adjust their settings on the Google Group's website so that
they don't receive email, or receive it as a summary or digest. They must
visit the Google Group website to catch up with discussion. This is also not
how I do it.

Other's again, subscribe to the email forum's RSS feed and follow the
discussions in their RSS News Reader. This is not how I do it either :)

I follow the email discussion like any other email - straight from my inbox.
As a result, I have hundreds of emails every day. Email (much to my
disappointment) is my primary mode of communication and so I spend the
majority of my working day with email. I am presently facilitating 3 courses
like this!

As the facilitator, I need to keep up with it all and so far it seems to be
taking me about 10-15 hours per week with this course. This is 4-9 hours
more than I plan for in later weeks for this course, but I have allowed for
extra time in the first few weeks while things settle in. I am hoping that
when the blogs get going, I will be able to withdraw a little from this
email forum, and be free to browse people's blog posts and leave short
comments here and there directly on people's blogs. Personally, I hope we
(we being online communicators) will evolve beyond email and start using
more sophisticated mediums. Personally, I think that blogs offer us a chance
to slow down and be more personal and deeper with our reflections, that can
lead to more personal and deeper relationships with other people online -
but that's my personal opinion. I find email is like fast food, and blogging
is like slow food <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slow_movement>. However, the
unmanaged RSS reader can tend to make the slowness of blogging fast again..
an RSS reader is a little like an email inbox at times.

So in final answer to your question Olubodum - the discussion (if there
really is only one) should be decentralising away from this email forum. It
was never going to be satisfactory for many people, email is work. You
should *not* be striving to keep up with the email forum (unless you want my
job :) but instead I think you should be striving to make more personal
connections with a smaller group of individuals in this course (Mike Bogle
has invited you to discuss your issue with him). If you browse people's
blogs you should feel as though you are seeing more of that particular
person. They should have a portrait and other information that makes you
feel like you are in their home, or in their space at least. We don't get
this from email or forums. From that feeling I would hope that you can
relate to a number of people and begin feeling like you can comment on their
blog and discuss things. With so many people in this course - your chances
of connecting with like minded people are higher than if we had a smaller
group. If the people you attempt to connect with are good communicators,
they will come to your blog and comment on yours. Slowly you will build a
small network of people around you and feel like you are in a discussion
worth having, and that you are indeed a part of that discussion, helping to
make it happen. This email forum is too big, too in personal for many of us,
we need to break into smaller groups. Notably though, some people have
managed to use this email forum to make real connections. Notice that it is
the ones with the most experience in online communication though.

I hope this advice is helpful Olubodum. I will try and set the next meeting
time in your timezone so that we may continue to talk through this. I
understand your feeling of frustration, and my suggestion is to relax, be
patient, let yourself miss things, let yourself follow only the things that
interest you. Over time (this is only week 2 after all) you will start to
become more connected and things will start to fall into place for you.

Most of all, reach out, socialise, and stay in touch with those you connect
with.

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Date: Thu, 7 Aug 2008 09:46:28 +0100
Local: Thurs, Aug 7 2008 4:46 am
Subject: Re: ::{{FOC}}:: Re: Orientation complete? What is an online com...

Agree.
I use to say that the only thing virtual is the means through which we
communicate and establish contacts, bonds and learning relationships. And
those are really real! :-)

I will try to make it some of the live sessions once I get back from Hols -
right now I am too tired to get up that early in the morning - I hope to
come back recharged to take part in some great sessions!
C

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Date: Thu, 7 Aug 2008 09:56:45 +0100
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Subject: Re: ::{{FOC}}:: Re: Orientation complete? What is an online com...

Agree.
I use to say that the only thing virtual is the means through which we
communicate and establish contacts, bonds and learning relationships. And
those are really real! :-)

I will try to make it some of the live sessions once I get back from Hols -
right now I am too tired to get up that early in the morning - I hope to
come back recharged to take part in some great sessions!
C

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Date: Thu, 7 Aug 2008 22:04:43 +1000
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Subject: Re: ::{{FOC}}:: Re: Orientation complete? What is an online com...

Thanks, that's helpful Leigh. I had got fixtaed on the email conversation (full of terminology that's quite foreign to me). I'll concentrate on the wiki from here on in.

Cheers

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From: "Derek Chirnside" <derek.chirns...@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 8 Aug 2008 08:49:52 +1200
Local: Thurs, Aug 7 2008 4:49 pm
Subject: Re: ::{{FOC}}:: Re: Orientation complete? What is an online com...

Well, sort of done my homework.  It's like a diamond, got to rotate the idea
to see the different facets.  My reflections are a little unsystematic and
personal.  I think I'd give a different answer if I was asked in a month.
Found it harder than I thought, took me down a few little avenues I have not
finished thinking about yet.  Needed three goes, with a few false starts.

Got seriously distracted with the blogs.  Tons of interesting side comments
(Google reader, Diigo, multitasking, people I've not spoken to for a while,
flow, book titles, tips on getting organised, links to Jewish humour . . .)

Loved the Netvibes page (have visited two of the three columns of blogs, got
one to go).Thanks Joao!!  Anyone struggling with RSS, feeds: this is a good
place to start.

Had coffee, off to my day job now.

Have a good day/evening/afternoon everybody, wherever your time zone finds
you.  And thanks Leigh.

-Derek

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Date: Thu, 07 Aug 2008 23:47:47 -0700
Local: Fri, Aug 8 2008 2:47 am
Subject: ::{{FOC}}:: Gratitude, Question & a Suggestion

Hi all,

(In an example of typical gender-specific commentary :-) I just wanted to
say how brilliant the reading list is this week, and how much fun Iıve been
having blogging and commenting on other peopleıs posts, as well as
participating (mostly as a reader!) here on the list-serve.

I have a question about the live Elluminate sessions ­ are there going to be
any more of them? I havenıt seen a schedule, and being on the other side of
the world here in California, Iım finding it helps to know about them well
in advance.

I have a suggestion, too. There are so many interesting thoughts expressed
here on the list, and Iım sure Iım not alone in wanting to follow up on them
by commenting on the postersı blogs. It would save effort & make it easier
if folks included a link to their blog in their signatures.

Amy

...o0o...
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Date: Fri, 8 Aug 2008 16:09:46 +0100
Local: Fri, Aug 8 2008 11:09 am
Subject: Re: ::{{FOC}}:: Gratitude, Question & a Suggestion

Excellent suggestion, Amy.

Joao
http://joaocarlosalves.eu

2008/8/8 Amy Lenzo <a...@beautydialogues.com>

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Date: Fri, 8 Aug 2008 11:39:10 -0700
Local: Fri, Aug 8 2008 2:39 pm
Subject: Re: ::{{FOC}}:: Re: Gratitude, Question & a Suggestion

Amy,
I love your suggestion.

Thank you.
Nellie Deutsch
FOC08 Blog <http://nelliemuller.blogspot.com/>

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