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[Haskell-cafe] Where did House/hOp go?

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Svein Ove Aas

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Oct 16, 2008, 12:31:38 PM10/16/08
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I'd finally gotten to the point in learning haskell at which they
might be interesting to look at, and then.. they were gone.

Does anyone know what happened to these projects? They used to be
open-source, so the code should still be around somewhere, right?
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Donnie Jones

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Oct 16, 2008, 1:15:08 PM10/16/08
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Hello Svein Ove Aas,

On Thu, Oct 16, 2008 at 12:31 PM, Svein Ove Aas <svei...@aas.no> wrote:

> I'd finally gotten to the point in learning haskell at which they
> might be interesting to look at, and then.. they were gone.
>
> Does anyone know what happened to these projects? They used to be
> open-source, so the code should still be around somewhere, right?
>

Below are a few links that hopefully you will find useful.

Haskell and Operating Systems:
http://www.haskell.org/haskellwiki/Applications_and_libraries/Operating_system

House OS official home page:
http://programatica.cs.pdx.edu/House/
This page doesn't seem to be loading at the moment, which I hope is only a
temporary problem. I know the source code was available there a few months
ago since I downloaded the code to House myself.

Cheers.
__
Donnie Jones

Creighton Hogg

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Oct 16, 2008, 1:33:19 PM10/16/08
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2008/10/16 Donnie Jones <don...@darthik.com>:

The site is working for me even now.
Unfortunately, the site hasn't really been updated much over the past
couple of years and when I e-mailed some people on the Programatica
project about the status of House & Osker I never got anything back.
The biggest obstacle you may find when trying to set up House & hOp is
that hOp is based upon a modified version of a very old GHC and from
the last time I looked at it the GHC runtime has changed enough that
making a new hOp will be non-trivial.

Kenny Graunke

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Oct 16, 2008, 4:54:09 PM10/16/08
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Hello!

On Thu, Oct 16, 2008, Donnie Jones <donnie at darthik.com> wrote:
[snip]


> The site is working for me even now.
> Unfortunately, the site hasn't really been updated much over the past
> couple of years and when I e-mailed some people on the Programatica
> project about the status of House & Osker I never got anything back.
> The biggest obstacle you may find when trying to set up House & hOp is
> that hOp is based upon a modified version of a very old GHC and from
> the last time I looked at it the GHC runtime has changed enough that
> making a new hOp will be non-trivial.

Indeed! House 0.8, as listed on the official programatica page, is
based on GHC 6.2...not so fun to work with these days.

I've spent the last year or so working on House as part of my research,
and have updated it to GHC 6.8.2 (with a lot of help). You can get a
copy of my unofficial "House 0.8.91" sources here:
http://web.cecs.pdx.edu/~kennyg/house/

It's still a bit of a challenge to build. Notably, you'll need a 32-bit
Linux system - it doesn't build on 64-bit linux nor Mac OS X (yet).

If you just want a floppy image, you may as well stick with House 0.8 from
http://programatica.cs.pdx.edu/House/ ... it's basically the same.

--Kenny

Creighton Hogg

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Oct 16, 2008, 5:30:55 PM10/16/08
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On Thu, Oct 16, 2008 at 3:47 PM, Kenny Graunke <ke...@whitecape.org> wrote:
> Hello!
>
> On Thu, Oct 16, 2008, Donnie Jones <donnie at darthik.com> wrote:
> [snip]
>> The site is working for me even now.
>> Unfortunately, the site hasn't really been updated much over the past
>> couple of years and when I e-mailed some people on the Programatica
>> project about the status of House & Osker I never got anything back.
>> The biggest obstacle you may find when trying to set up House & hOp is
>> that hOp is based upon a modified version of a very old GHC and from
>> the last time I looked at it the GHC runtime has changed enough that
>> making a new hOp will be non-trivial.
>
> Indeed! House 0.8, as listed on the official programatica page, is
> based on GHC 6.2...not so fun to work with these days.
>
> I've spent the last year or so working on House as part of my research,
> and have updated it to GHC 6.8.2 (with a lot of help). You can get a
> copy of my unofficial "House 0.8.91" sources here:
> http://web.cecs.pdx.edu/~kennyg/house/
>
> It's still a bit of a challenge to build. Notably, you'll need a 32-bit
> Linux system - it doesn't build on 64-bit linux nor Mac OS X (yet).
>
> If you just want a floppy image, you may as well stick with House 0.8 from
> http://programatica.cs.pdx.edu/House/ ... it's basically the same.

Awesome! Thanks for working on this!

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