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Manolis Kiagias

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Nov 14, 2009, 1:53:28 AM11/14/09
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Trever wrote:
> I noticed in 7.2 that the /usr/src installed from the ISO downloads would not build without first sup'ing for a few updates. (disc1.iso's)
>
> I notice in the 8.0RC2&3 that some of the source files are corrupted.
>
> Not a media issue, checksum's have always been confirmed good.
>
> Is this normal, for the packaged source to be "bad"?
>
> One of the nice things about BSD is that it comes with everything to build itself, but if the source won't build without first updating...
>
> Just curious.
>
> Trever
>
>

There must be something wrong at your end.
I routinely run make buildworld / make release using -RELEASE sources
and never had any problems.
Are you sure you are installing *all* the sources, both kernel and world?
It could be that something goes wrong during decompression, though I
suspect this would happen to other files as well leading to a
non-working system.
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Eygene Ryabinkin

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Nov 14, 2009, 2:59:17 AM11/14/09
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Trever wrote:
> I noticed in 7.2 that the /usr/src installed from the ISO downloads
> would not build without first sup'ing for a few updates.
> (disc1.iso's)
>
> I notice in the 8.0RC2&3 that some of the source files are corrupted.

Can you be precise in what's going wrong? What objects can't be built,
what are error messages, etc?

Thanks!
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Trever

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Nov 15, 2009, 5:50:26 AM11/15/09
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The problem is on our end, not the release(s), though I had convinced myself otherwise. Sorry for my momentary loss of confidence in the releases! And, I'm not sure my original post should have gone to this list.

What I can say is that whatever the heck it is we are doing wrong on our end is not obvious, but that's a different issue than the issue of knowing whether or not we can trust the release(s), which it seems we certainly can. That's a relief.

With regard to 8.0 RC2&3, simply using the src/install.sh script for the src works without the errors and corrupted files. Our script does the same thing, but obviously not quite. Weird, but we'll figure it out.

Re 7.2 iso sources, based on the responses that no one has had this type of problem, I assume this is our end again.

Thanks all!

Trever


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Dag-Erling Smørgrav

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Nov 16, 2009, 4:53:09 AM11/16/09
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Trever <anti_s...@yahoo.com> writes:
> With regard to 8.0 RC2&3, simply using the src/install.sh script for
> the src works without the errors and corrupted files.

I wonder why we still bother splitting the tarballs... it's not like
anyone is going to try installing 8.0 from floppies.

DES
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Dag-Erling Smørgrav

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Nov 16, 2009, 8:06:52 AM11/16/09
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Bruce Cran <br...@cran.org.uk> writes:
> See
> http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-stable/2009-October/052241.html
> - apparently people are still wanting to install from floppies.

The mind boggles.

If you can't boot from CD-ROM, use a USB stick. If you can't boot from
a USB stick, use PXE. If your NIC doesn't do PXE, you can get one that
does for $20. If that is not an option either, move the disk to another
machine, install, and move it back.

If you really want to install 7.2 from floppies, you will need 76 disks
just to get a bootable system. For 8.0, you will need 84.

Dag-Erling Smørgrav

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Nov 16, 2009, 8:09:11 AM11/16/09
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Dag-Erling Smørgrav <d...@des.no> writes:
> If you really want to install 7.2 from floppies, you will need 76 disks
> just to get a bootable system. For 8.0, you will need 84.

That's for i386, btw. For amd64, the numbers are 83 for 7.2 and 93 for
8.0.

Julian Elischer

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Nov 16, 2009, 12:34:42 PM11/16/09
to Dag-Erling Smørgrav, Bruce Cran, Trever, freebsd...@freebsd.org
Dag-Erling Smørgrav wrote:
> Bruce Cran <br...@cran.org.uk> writes:
>> See
>> http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-stable/2009-October/052241.html
>> - apparently people are still wanting to install from floppies.
>
> The mind boggles.
>
> If you can't boot from CD-ROM, use a USB stick. If you can't boot from
> a USB stick, use PXE. If your NIC doesn't do PXE, you can get one that
> does for $20. If that is not an option either, move the disk to another
> machine, install, and move it back.
>
> If you really want to install 7.2 from floppies, you will need 76 disks
> just to get a bootable system. For 8.0, you will need 84.
>
> DES


I think the easiest answer would be:
install 6.x or something, and upgrade.

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