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As a module, knowing about its parent is less 'modular' i think. The two of
your approachs seems fine, but as a convention i'd rather prefer module to
know nothing about any parent candidate and better waiting for milk from any
of them :)
However, it rocks anyway, it's some sort of tastes within the freedom of
javascript world.
On Tue, Jul 27, 2010 at 5:07 PM, vision media [ Tj Holowaychuk ] <
t...@vision-media.ca> wrote:
> hell you might even want to module.exports = function(app){ app.get(...) }
>
> and then require('./foobar')(app)
>
> explicitly passing your app instance
>
> On Tue, Jul 27, 2010 at 7:06 AM, vision media [ Tj Holowaychuk ] <
> t...@vision-media.ca> wrote:
>
>> The example is not magic at all if your used to node modules, I would not
>> call
>> it elegant but the point is nothing is imposed, any way you choose to get
>> your
>> app from one module to another is fine :)
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Jul 27, 2010 at 5:47 AM, Kadir Pekel <kadirpe...@gmail.com>wrote:
>>
>>> +1 for Hecmann's
>>>
>>> My humble opinion is doing it with less magic for more understandable and
>>> acceptable structure.
>>>
>>> thnks.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Jul 27, 2010 at 3:25 PM, Aaron Heckmann <
>>> aaron.heckm...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> The only other option I see is to export a method from your child module
>>>> that accepts an app instance which you then use to wire up routes - and that
>>>> is far less elegant.
>>>>
>>>> On Jul 26, 2010, at 11:14 PM, "Jeffrey 'jf' Lim" <jfs.wo...@gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> > yeah thanks, guys! this is precisely what I'm looking for (although
>>>> > yes :), a more elegant way would be great... But hey, it works!!!) - a
>>>> > way to be able to refer to 'app' in require-d files... And Kadir, I am
>>>> > subscribed. I just missed out on that thread. Thanks for pointing it
>>>> > out!!!
>>>> >
>>>> > -jf
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > On Tue, Jul 27, 2010 at 12:04 AM, vision media [ Tj Holowaychuk ]
>>>> > <t...@vision-media.ca> wrote:
>>>> >> The parent module reference is a bit weird I know, but it works just
>>>> fine. I
>>>> >> would love
>>>> >> suggestions for a clear way to do this, but you cant just simply
>>>> >> require('./app') or similar
>>>> >> because you will cause a cyclic require and segfault :) this is the
>>>> best
>>>> >> approach I have come
>>>> >> up with
>>>> >>
>>>> >> On Mon, Jul 26, 2010 at 6:18 AM, Kadir Pekel <kadirpe...@gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> Hi Jeffrey,
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> It was also discussed yesterday.
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>>
>>>> http://groups.google.com/group/express-js/browse_thread/thread/80f21aba4cb54e58#
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> You'd better subscribe to group if you are really interested in :)
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> Good luck with Express.
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> On Mon, Jul 26, 2010 at 3:19 PM, Aaron Heckmann <
>>>> aaron.heckm...@gmail.com>
>>>> >>> wrote:
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>> I believe what you're looking for is in the blog example:
>>>> >>>>
>>>> http://github.com/visionmedia/express/blob/master/examples/blog/app.js
>>>> >>>> In app.js, the server instance is assigned to module.exports so
>>>> that
>>>> >>>> child modules have access to "app" (the server) as well.
>>>> >>>> Now take a peek at contact.js
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>>
>>>> http://github.com/visionmedia/express/blob/master/examples/blog/contact.js
>>>> >>>> Here you see how to set up routes in child modules by accessing
>>>> >>>> "module.parent.exports" which is the "app" in app.js.
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>> On Mon, Jul 26, 2010 at 6:33 AM, Sam Millman <smill...@nhbs.co.uk>
>>>> wrote:
>>>> >>>>>
>>>> >>>>> require should work both ways since it just includes the page code
>>>> into
>>>> >>>>> the current document then it is upto you to instantiate the object
>>>> yourself.
>>>> >>>>>
>>>> >>>>> On 26 July 2010 11:29, Sam Millman <smill...@nhbs.co.uk> wrote:
>>>> >>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>> you mean:
>>>> >>>>>> require("sys");
>>>> >>>>>> or:
>>>> >>>>>> require("./mongod/somecheeseyclassthatIwantincluded")
>>>> >>>>>> In turn this allows you to propogate a class. Is this what you
>>>> mean or
>>>> >>>>>> do you meant the php include where it acts as a part of the file?
>>>> >>>>>> so:
>>>> >>>>>> require("sys") would mean the code of that file is placed into
>>>> the
>>>> >>>>>> current document allowing the code to be manipulated as if it
>>>> wasnt in a
>>>> >>>>>> different file?
>>>> >>>>>> On 26 July 2010 09:54, Jeffrey 'jf' Lim <jfs.wo...@gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>> >>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>> Anybody wondered about this? I come from a sinatra background
>>>> :), and
>>>> >>>>>>> I very much like the ability to be able to arbitrarily split off
>>>> >>>>>>> related functionality/code into different files (eg. I want to
>>>> split
>>>> >>>>>>> off the "app.get('/user/xxx', ...)" stuff into another file, say
>>>> >>>>>>> users.js). In sinatra, you could do this with a 'require'.
>>>> >>>>>>> Unfortunately, this doesnt seem possible with node/expressjs. Or
>>>> is
>>>> >>>>>>> there something i'm missing? Does anybody miss/want this
>>>> >>>>>>> functionality?
>>>> >>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>> -jf
>>>> >>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>> --
>>>> >>>>>>> "Every nonfree program has a lord, a master --
>>>> >>>>>>> and if you use the program, he is your master."
>>>> >>>>>>> --Richard Stallman
>>>> >>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>> "It's so hard to write a graphics driver that open-sourcing it
>>>> would
>>>> >>>>>>> not help."
>>>> >>>>>>> -- Andrew Fear, Software Product Manager, NVIDIA Corporation
>>>> >>>>>>> http://kerneltrap.org/node/7228
>>>> >>>>>>>
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>>>> >>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>> --
>>>> >>>>>> Bow Chicka Bow Wow
>>>> >>>>>
>>>> >>>>>
>>>> >>>>>
>>>> >>>>> --
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>>>> >>
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As a module, knowing about its parent is less 'modular' i think. Th=
e two of your approachs seems fine, but as a convention i'd rather pref=
er module to know nothing about any parent candidate and better waiting for=
milk from any of them :)<br>
<br>However, it rocks anyway, it's some sort of tastes within the freed=
om of javascript world.<br><br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Tue, Jul 2=
7, 2010 at 5:07 PM, vision media [ Tj Holowaychuk ] <span dir=3D"ltr"><<=
a href=3D"mailto:t...@vision-media.ca">t...@vision-media.ca</a>></span> wrot=
e:<br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; borde=
r-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">hell you might ev=
en want to module.exports =3D function(app){ app.get(...) }<div><br></div><=
div>
and then require('./foobar')(app)</div><div><br></div><div>explicit=
ly passing your app instance</div><div><div></div><div class=3D"h5"><div><b=
r><div class=3D"gmail_quote">
On Tue, Jul 27, 2010 at 7:06 AM, vision media [ Tj Holowaychuk ] <span dir=
=3D"ltr"><<a href=3D"mailto:t...@vision-media.ca" target=3D"_blank">tj@vis=
ion-media.ca</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" sty=
le=3D"margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204);=
padding-left: 1ex;">
The example is not magic at all if your used to node modules, I would not c=
all<div>it=A0elegant=A0but the point is nothing is imposed, any way you cho=
ose to get your</div><div>app from one module to another is fine :)<div><di=
v>
</div><div><br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">
On Tue, Jul 27, 2010 at 5:47 AM, Kadir Pekel <span dir=3D"ltr"><<a href=
=3D"mailto:kadirpe...@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">kadirpe...@gmail.com</a>=
></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin: 0p=
t 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1=
ex;">
+1 for Hecmann's<br><br>My humble opinion is doing it with less magic f=
or more understandable and acceptable structure.<br><br>thnks.<div><div></d=
iv><div><br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Tue, Jul 27, 2010 at 3:25 PM,=
Aaron Heckmann <span dir=3D"ltr"><<a href=3D"mailto:aaron.heckmann@gmai=
l.com" target=3D"_blank">aaron.heckm...@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; borde=
r-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">The only other op=
tion I see is to export a method from your child module that accepts an app=
instance which you then use to wire up routes - and that is far less elega=
nt.<br>
<div><div></div><div><br>
On Jul 26, 2010, at 11:14 PM, "Jeffrey 'jf' Lim" <<a h=
ref=3D"mailto:jfs.wo...@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">jfs.wo...@gmail.com</a=
>> wrote:<br>
<br>
> yeah thanks, guys! this is precisely what I'm looking for (althoug=
h<br>
> yes :), a more elegant way would be great... But hey, it works!!!) - a=
<br>
> way to be able to refer to 'app' in require-d files... And Kad=
ir, I am<br>
> subscribed. I just missed out on that thread. Thanks for pointing it<b=
r>
> out!!!<br>
><br>
> -jf<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> On Tue, Jul 27, 2010 at 12:04 AM, vision media [ Tj Holowaychuk ]<br>
> <<a href=3D"mailto:t...@vision-media.ca" target=3D"_blank">tj@vision-=
media.ca</a>> wrote:<br>
>> The parent module reference is a bit weird I know, but it works ju=
st fine. I<br>
>> would love<br>
>> suggestions for a clear way to do this, but you cant just simply<b=
r>
>> require('./app') or similar<br>
>> because you will cause a cyclic require and segfault :) this is th=
e best<br>
>> approach I have come<br>
>> up with<br>
>><br>
>> On Mon, Jul 26, 2010 at 6:18 AM, Kadir Pekel <<a href=3D"mailto=
:kadirpe...@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">kadirpe...@gmail.com</a>> wrote=
:<br>
>>><br>
>>> Hi Jeffrey,<br>
>>><br>
>>> It was also discussed yesterday.<br>
>>><br>
>>><br>
>>> <a href=3D"http://groups.google.com/group/express-js/browse_th=
read/thread/80f21aba4cb54e58#" target=3D"_blank">http://groups.google.com/g=
roup/express-js/browse_thread/thread/80f21aba4cb54e58#</a><br>
>>><br>
>>> You'd better subscribe to group if you are really interest=
ed in :)<br>
>>><br>
>>> Good luck with Express.<br>
>>><br>
>>> On Mon, Jul 26, 2010 at 3:19 PM, Aaron Heckmann <<a href=3D=
"mailto:aaron.heckm...@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">aaron.heckm...@gmail.co=
m</a>><br>
>>> wrote:<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> I believe what you're looking for is in the blog examp=
le:<br>
>>>> <a href=3D"http://github.com/visionmedia/express/blob/mast=
er/examples/blog/app.js" target=3D"_blank">http://github.com/visionmedia/ex=
press/blob/master/examples/blog/app.js</a><br>
>>>> In app.js, the server instance is assigned to module.expor=
ts so that<br>
>>>> child modules have access to "app" (the server) =
as well.<br>
>>>> Now take a peek at contact.js<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> <a href=3D"http://github.com/visionmedia/express/blob/mast=
er/examples/blog/contact.js" target=3D"_blank">http://github.com/visionmedi=
a/express/blob/master/examples/blog/contact.js</a><br>
>>>> Here you see how to set up routes in child modules by acce=
ssing<br>
>>>> "module.parent.exports" which is the "app&q=
uot; in app.js.<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> On Mon, Jul 26, 2010 at 6:33 AM, Sam Millman <<a href=
=3D"mailto:smill...@nhbs.co.uk" target=3D"_blank">smill...@nhbs.co.uk</a>&g=
t; wrote:<br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>> require should work both ways since it just includes t=
he page code into<br>
>>>>> the current document then it is upto you to instantiat=
e the object yourself.<br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>> On 26 July 2010 11:29, Sam Millman <<a href=3D"mail=
to:smill...@nhbs.co.uk" target=3D"_blank">smill...@nhbs.co.uk</a>> wrote=
:<br>
>>>>>><br>
>>>>>> you mean:<br>
>>>>>> require("sys");<br>
>>>>>> or:<br>
>>>>>> require("./mongod/somecheeseyclassthatIwantin=
cluded")<br>
>>>>>> In turn this allows you to propogate a class. Is t=
his what you mean or<br>
>>>>>> do you meant the php include where it acts as a pa=
rt of the file?<br>
>>>>>> so:<br>
>>>>>> require("sys") would mean the code of th=
at file is placed into the<br>
>>>>>> current document allowing the code to be manipulat=
ed as if it wasnt in a<br>
>>>>>> different file?<br>
>>>>>> On 26 July 2010 09:54, Jeffrey 'jf' Lim &l=
t;<a href=3D"mailto:jfs.wo...@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">jfs.world@gmail.=
com</a>> wrote:<br>
>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>> Anybody wondered about this? I come from a sin=
atra background :), and<br>
>>>>>>> I very much like the ability to be able to arb=
itrarily split off<br>
>>>>>>> related functionality/code into different file=
s (eg. I want to split<br>
>>>>>>> off the "app.get('/user/xxx', ...=
)" stuff into another file, say<br>
>>>>>>> users.js). In sinatra, you could do this with =
a 'require'.<br>
>>>>>>> Unfortunately, this doesnt seem possible with =
node/expressjs. Or is<br>
>>>>>>> there something i'm missing? Does anybody =
miss/want this<br>
>>>>>>> functionality?<br>
>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>> -jf<br>
>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>> --<br>
>>>>>>> "Every nonfree program has a lord, a mast=
er --<br>
>>>>>>> and if you use the program, he is your master.=
"<br>
>>>>>>> =A0 =A0 --Richard Stallman<br>
>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>> "It's so hard to write a graphics dri=
ver that open-sourcing it would<br>
>>>>>>> not help."<br>
>>>>>>> =A0 =A0 -- Andrew Fear, Software Product Manag=
er, NVIDIA Corporation<br>
>>>>>>> <a href=3D"http://kerneltrap.org/node/7228" ta=
rget=3D"_blank">http://kerneltrap.org/node/7228</a><br>
>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>> --<br>
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