A Computable Universe: Understanding and Exploring Nature As Computation

[Evgenii Rudnyi]

http://uncomp.uwe.ac.uk/LCCOMP/en/Files/Entries/2012/5/23_A_Computable_Universe.html

Overview

This volume, with a foreword by Sir Roger Penrose, discusses the
foundations of computation in relation to nature.

It focuses on two main questions:

What is computation?
How does nature compute?

The contributors are world-renowned experts who have helped shape a
cutting-edge computational understanding of the universe. They discuss
computation in the world from a variety of perspectives, ranging from
foundational concepts to pragmatic models to ontological conceptions and
philosophical implications.

[Stephen P. King]

Alas, it cost $138.00 US. That is too much. :_(

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Onward!

Stephen

"Nature, to be commanded, must be obeyed."
~ Francis Bacon

[Evgenii Rudnyi]

On 26.05.2012 07:57 Stephen P. King said the following:

> On 5/26/2012 1:50 AM, Evgenii Rudnyi wrote:
>> http://uncomp.uwe.ac.uk/LCCOMP/en/Files/Entries/2012/5/23_A_Computable_Universe.html
>>
>>
>>
>> Overview
>>
>> This volume, with a foreword by Sir Roger Penrose, discusses the
>> foundations of computation in relation to nature.
>>
>> It focuses on two main questions:
>>
>> What is computation? How does nature compute?
>>
>> The contributors are world-renowned experts who have helped shape a
>> cutting-edge computational understanding of the universe. They
>> discuss computation in the world from a variety of perspectives,
>> ranging from foundational concepts to pragmatic models to
>> ontological conceptions and philosophical implications.
>>
>>
>
> Alas, it cost $138.00 US. That is too much. :_(
>

A small remark. Recently I have watched "Pornography: A Secret History
of Civilization". It happened that after European have found so much
erotics in Pompei, they have decided that only gentlemen with strict
moral norms could watch such findings. Otherwise this could spoil the
moral values in the working class.

You could think the same way. The price is high not to destroy the moral
of the working class.

Evgenii

[Stephen P. King]

Knowledge is a dangerous thing.

[John Mikes]

Evgenij:

to your last par (small remark):

(and I repeat the outburst of a religious scientist upon my post questioning his 'faith'):

"Who gave you the audacity to feel so superior to (some?) WORKING CLASS?"

(I apologize: you seem to be only the messenger)

Then again (in the message): "GENTLEMEN"? and WHAT moral norms? Would gays be included? and why would women excluded? WHAT morality would be required?

Read the SCRIPTs (maybe more than just the "Jewish" Bible) and you will be shaken in your "morals" of the past centuries' mostly western belief. Girls in good standing, i.e. Ishtar's virgins (whores?) who had to conceive by a stranger for money to prove their fertility and find a decent husband? Consequently the "offering" of the first born because they were most likely the offspring of other than the husband? and so on and on. Pompei was later, but still in the 'biblical' morals.

Remarks of this kind should be explained/understood better.

Sorry for the outburst

LohnM

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[Evgenii Rudnyi]

On 28.05.2012 17:48 John Mikes said the following:

> Evgenij: to your last par (small remark): (and I repeat the outburst
> of a religious scientist upon my post questioning his 'faith'): "Who
> gave you the audacity to feel so superior to (some?) WORKING CLASS?"
> (I apologize: you seem to be only the messenger) Then again (in the
> message): "GENTLEMEN"? and WHAT moral norms? Would gays be included?
> and why would women excluded? WHAT morality would be required? Read
> the SCRIPTs (maybe more than just the "Jewish" Bible) and you will
> be shaken in your "morals" of the past centuries' mostly western
> belief. Girls in good standing, i.e. Ishtar's virgins (whores?) who
> had to conceive by a stranger for money to prove their fertility and
> find a decent husband? Consequently the "offering" of the first born
> because they were most likely the offspring of other than the
> husband? and so on and on. Pompei was later, but still in the
> 'biblical' morals. Remarks of this kind should be
> explained/understood better. Sorry for the outburst LohnM

Hi John,

I was just kidding. I should say though that the movie "Pornography: A
Secret History of Civilization" is very enjoyable when they describe how
the Victorian society has reacted to findings in Pompei. See for example

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Erotic_art_in_Pompeii_and_Herculaneum

Do you have other explanation why this book is so expansive?

Evgenii

[Stephen P. King]

It is expensive because demand for many copies of it is low and
thus costs per unit are high. Usually only university libraries purchase
such books.