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Sam Carana  
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 More options Jun 6 2005, 10:33 pm
From: Sam Carana <sam.car...@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2005 12:33:35 +1000
Local: Mon, Jun 6 2005 10:33 pm
Subject: Re: [epistemology] Re: Biggest issues in epistemology?

On 6/7/05, goozlefotz <dgrant...@ieee.org> wrote:

> OK I don't disagree with your view of what is, but making someone sign a
> pledge is not going to change it. Making a law is not going to change it.

 It's a step in the right direction, because it makes scientists think about
what they're doing. The system currently selects the nerds, those who have
been deprived of social contact. The system deliberately keeps children
occupied from a young age with maths exercizes, to prevent them from
developing social and ethical conscience.

> The "Iron Triangle" - the military, congress and defense
> contractors - have us in a strangle hold from which there appears to be no
> way out. [Remember what Eisenhower said?] The universities get much of their
> funding from one or another of this triangle, so they dance to the tune as
> well. Please! If you have a solution let me in on it!

> Dave

 As said, the pledge is one little step in the right direction and we do
have a long way to go. Indeed, we need structural reform across all sectors
of society. Most urgently, the military needs to be split up into multiple
pieces, each of which is to compete in all areas for clients seeking
security services. Clients should choose and pay for the security services
they want directly. Security firms that seek to develop weapons in secrecy
should be exposed by the media and by whistleblowers, which is where the
pledge comes in.
 Sam

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