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Sam Carana  
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 More options Oct 18 2005, 9:31 pm
From: Sam Carana <sam.car...@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2005 11:31:02 +1000
Local: Tues, Oct 18 2005 9:31 pm
Subject: Re: [epistemology] Re: Sam Carana is right - education needs to be reformed and here's only answer that will ever ever work.

On 10/19/05, zinnic <zeenr...@gate.net> wrote:

> I hope this system works out. Just one question. You state that students
> have the opportunity to choose schools. How does this work? My experience is
> that 'better' schools are preferred by parents but logistics 'trumps'their
> preference. Consequently, 'better' schools were selective and so cemented
> their status.

> ....Zinnic

> The system needs to be shaken up more fundamentally and the financial

aspects should be looked at in great detail (considering vouchers, tax
deducations, etc). Furthermore, alternatives to classroom learning should be
considered more seriously, e.g. homeschooling, self-learning, online
learning, tutoring, etc. Finally, there should be more integration of
education with real life, specifically work environments as students get
older, offering more trainees and apprenticeships, on-the-job learning,
participation in research, etc.
 How much has our education system improved over the years? Has anyone who
completed high school today, learned more than students did 110 years ago?
Is there any evidence that the large public schools of today were more
effective than smaller schools that were more common in the past?

Below is the eighth-grade final exam from 1895 in Salina , Kansas , USA . It
was taken from the original document on file at the Smokey Valley
Genealogical Society and Library in Salina
<http://skyways.lib.ks.us/genweb/saline/>, KS , and reprinted by the Salina
Journal. The exam took five hours to complete.

8th Grade Final Exam: Salina , KS -1895
<http://skyways.lib.ks.us/genweb/saline/society/exam.html>

Grammar (Time, one hour)

1. Give nine rules for the use of capital letters.
2. Name the parts of speech and define those that have no modifications.
3. Define verse, stanza and paragraph
4. What are the principal parts of a verb? Give principal parts
of"lie,""play," and "run."
5. Define case; Illustrate each case.
6 What is punctuation? Give rules for principal marks of punctuation.
7 - 10. Write a composition of about 150 words and show therein that you
understand the practical use of the rules of grammar.

Arithmetic (Time, 1.25 hours)

1. Name and define the Fundamental Rules of Arithmetic.
2. A wagon box is 2 ft. deep, 10 feet long, and 3 ft. wide. How many bushels
of wheat will it hold?3. If a load of wheat weighs 3942 lbs., what is it
worth at 50cts/bushel, deducting 1050 lbs. for tare?
4. District No 33 has a valuation of $35,000. What is the necessary levy to
carry on a school seven months at $50 per month, and have $104 for
incidentals?
5. Find the cost of 6720 lbs. coal at $6.00 per ton.
6. Find the interest of $512.60 for 8 months and 18 days at 7 percent.
7. What is the cost of 40 boards 12 inches wide and 16 ft. long at $20 per
metre?
8. Find bank discount on $300 for 90 days (no grace) at 10 percent.
9. What is the cost of a square farm at $15 per acre, the distance of which
is 640 rods?
10. Write a Bank Check, a Promissory Note, and a Receipt.

U.S. History (Time, 45 minutes)

1. Give the epochs into which U.S. History is divided.
2. Give an account of the discovery of America by Columbus.
3. Relate the causes and results of the Revolutionary War.
4. Show the territorial growth of the United States.
5. Tell what you can of the history of Kansas.
6. Describe three of the most prom inent battles of the Rebellion.
7. Who were the following: Morse, Whitney, Fulton, Bell, Lincoln, Penn, and
Howe?
8. Name events connected with the following dates: 1607, 1620, 1800, 1849,
1865.

Orthography (Time, one hour)

1. What is meant by the following: Alphabet, phonetic, orthography,
etymology, syllabication
2. What are elementary sounds? How classified?
3. What are the following, and give examples of each: Trigraph, subvocals,
diphthong, cognate letters, linguals
4. Give four substitutes for caret 'u.'
5. Give two rules for spelling words with final 'e.' Name two exceptions
under each rule.
6. Give two uses of silent letters in spelling. Illustrate each.
7. Define the following prefixes and use in connection with a word: bi, dis,
mis, pre, semi, post, non, inter, mono, sup.
8. Mark diacritically and divide into syllables the following, and name the
sign that indicates the sound: card, ball, mercy, sir, odd, cell, rise,
blood, fare, last.
9. Use the following correctly in sentences: cite, site, sight, fane, fain,
feign, vane, vain, vei n, raze, raise, rays.
10. Write 10 words frequently mispronounced and indicate pronunciation by
use of diacritical marks and by syllabication.

Geography (Time, one hour)

1 What is climate? Upon what does climate depend?
2. How do you account for the extremes of climate in Kansas?
3. Of what use are rivers? Of what use is the ocean?
4. Describe the mountains of North America.
5. Name and describe the following: Monrovia, Odessa, Denver, Manitoba,
Hecla, Yukon, St. Helena, Juan Fernandez, Aspinwall and Orinoco.
6. Name and locate the principal trade centers of the U.S.
7. Name all the republics of Europe and give the capital of each.
8. Why is the Atlantic Coast colder than the Pacific in the same latitude?
9. Describe the process by which the water of the ocean returns to the
sources of rivers.
10. Describe the movements of the earth. Give the inclination of the earth.

Gives the Flat Earth a whole new meaning, doesn't it?

Sam


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