Re: [epistemology 8841] Nothing SHOCKING (Chazwin et Al)
Georges Metanomski
> From: chazwin <chaz...@yahoo.com>
> Subject: [epistemology 8841] Re: FACT SHOCKING BUT TRUE
> To: "Epistemology" <episte...@googlegroups.com>
> Date: Wednesday, June 25, 2008, 9:29 PM
> A more shocking fact that I learned from a Jew, was that
> before
> yahoowahoo, there was the "Elohim", always
> referred to in the plural,
> the gods that preceeded the "one and only"
> Jahovah or yahoo. This was,
> he said, clear testament to the polytheism of the Jewish
> people before
> the adoption and modification of the first recorded
> monotheism of
> Egypt, Amun Aten.
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G:
There is a Jewish saying "Nothing is stupider than a
stupid Jew". You had the misfortune to bump into one
and, what's worse, to take him seriously. I'll trash
his idiocies and comment your conclusions, all wrong,
but pointing to thrilling issues. Let's take it detail
by detail.
-yahoowahoo, There ain't no sich animal. Your stupid
Jew probably meant(?) Yahve, which would be anyway
totally displaced in this context (see below).
-Elohim. It's NOT semantic plural but "pseudo-plural",
a syntactic relic of old etymology which evolved into
semantic singular, BTW similar to Hebrew "Mitzraim"
for "Egypt".
All languages encompass many such constructs:
"Physics" IS and not ARE. Same for "château", which
integrates several "castels", "chastels", "châtels"
into the large fortified structure of "château".
Similarly and clearly "Elohim" IS (name of) the unique
God of Genesis and of Abraham.
Its syntactic plural recalls the bygone pagan
prehistory, replaced by the monotheism of the unique
PSEUDO-plural Elohim of the tribes of Israel. It was
an intuitive monotheism of illiterate nomads, lacking
any highbrow intellection, but endowed with acute
emotional sensibility of the desert and its skies.
It's doubtless the first monotheism ever registered,
preceding by over thousand years that, highly
philosophical, of Akhenaton (see below).
-"Amun Aten" is a complete muddle. Amon was the
principal of innumerable Egyptian Gods and his priests
dominated Egypt from their Karnak temple. Aton was the
Sun God venerated by the rare but most scientific
priesthood of Heliopolis. Egyptian Akhenaton's
monotheism inthronized Aton-Sun as (symbol of) the
unique God and abolished the cult of Amon, along with
other polytheistic Gods. Thus Amon and Aton were
implacable enemies and symbols of diametrically
opposed views and attitudes.
Following comments are mainly anchored in Freud's
"The man Moses and the monotheistic religion", but
occasionally go beyond it.
At Moses time, Israelites were considered in Egypt as
tough desert warriors and were assigned to protect the
rugged Nubian frontier. They brought to Egypt their
intuitive monotheism which did not radiate beyond
their own collectivity.
Moses (Egyptian for "man" found in Ra-Mses - Man of Ra,
Tut-Mosis - Man of Toth) was an Egyptian nobleman, a
bastard of a royal princess brought up as Pharaoh's
courtier to become a tough warrior.
The current Pharaoh crowned as Amenhotep IV (Glory of
Amon) turned away from polytheism and from the cult of
Amon, embracing and imposing the cult of the unique
God Aton symbolized by the sun. He changed his name to
Akhenaton (Glory of Aton), ordered the desttruction
of Amon temples and the construction of the new
capital, the Akhetaten ('Horizon of Aton'), at the
site known today as Amarna. One refers sometimes to
the short Atonian domination as to the "Amarna period".
We know the impact of our Renaissance which shattered
the stilted Middle Age conventions in favor of human
suppleness. Now, while our MA conventions were fixed
during a few hundred years, the Egyptian lasted
several thousand and the ideological break was
incomparably deeper. Although it lasted ony a few
decades, it was IMO the deepest Renaissance-type
revolution in the history.
Amarna was not only religion. In the cruel, tyrannic
world it preached the rule of Love. "Aton is Love and
we cherish Him by loving all and sundry". Loving in
equality: "Aton's rays bless the last of slaves and
the king alike". And this deepest Renaissance sparked
an unequalled outburst of art. No wonder that Aton
adherents were committed to Him with their lives.
The leading one was Moses.
After a few decades Amarna succumbed under the
devastating genocidal blows of Amon's reaction
embodied by the army of Horemheb who inthronized the
child Tutankhamon, (Living Image of Amon), in
anticipation of becoming himself the Pharaoh.
Moses assisted by a handful of noblemen true to
Akhenaton's testament decided to save Aton's
monotheism at the head of likewise monotheistic
Israelite warriors yearning for exody of Egypt towards
their homeland.
First steps of this Exodus led through Midian, where
Moses had a staunch ally, his father-in-law Yethro,
the head of Midian and the chief priest of Midian's
deity named Yahve. Yahve was a martial and cruel God
of volcanoes commanding the laws of vengeance, "tooth
for tooth", "eye for eye". Yethro assisted Moses in
submitting disordered Israelites to Yahve's laws and
in improving his miltary tactics.
Yahve got incorporated in the Israelite cult. Not as
another God - they were and stayed monotheist -, but
as another aspect of the unique God. Elohim's Genesis-
Creator's aspect got completed with Yahve's aspect of
Justice. Let's say en passant that orthodox Jews
refuse to admit that their "Yahve" was formed upon a
crude pagan deity and endeavor to interpret Him as an
acronym abbreviating some very mysterious concepts.
Yet, whatever their verbal contortions, the fact
remains that "Yahve" is an import from the crude
Midian cult.
But what about Aton, the active cause of Exodus? He
has been incorporated later, after the Hebrews have
reached the Promised Land, when Yahve's martial law
could be released. His inclusion gave the final touch
to the Jewishness. Before considering His ideological
bestowal, we shall shortly recall the linguistic
transformations of the Egyptian "Aton" into its Hebrew
versions.
The voiceless "t" of Aton slipped into the voiced "d"
and Aton in its new garb of "Adon" became a current
term of vernacular and hieratic Hebrew with its three
most common inflections:
1.Adon - mister or sir,
2.Adoni - (short od "adon shel li" - my mister/sir)
vocative (Dear)Sir,
3.Adonai - (archaic and hieratic pseudo-plural of Adoni,
reserved for God) - My Lord.
Similarity of Akhenaton's Great Hymn to Aton and
Salomon's Hymn to Adonai, preserved as Psalm 104,
manifests on the one hand Aton's being the bedrock of
Adonai and, on the other hand their shared nature of
Love.
We are now in a position to bring up the essential
aspects of the Jewish God with the names symbolizing
them:
Elohim - Creativeness,
Yahve - Justice,
Adonai - Love.
BTW, one can hardly avid noticing the analogy of these
three aspects of the Jewish God with the Christian
Trinity:
Elohim - Creativeness - the Father,
Yahve - Justice - the Spirit,
Adonai - Love - the Son.
On the face of it it seems that Christianity had the
chance to become a renewed Jewishness, a humane
ideology of Creativeness, of Justice and of Love.
Yet, it forfeited it and became instead one of the
most inhumane ideologies of ravage, of injustice and
of hatred. I endeavor to explain the reasons thereof
in
"SON 0F MAN Fraudulent bedrock of our civilization"
http://findgeorges.com/ROOT/WRITINGS/ESSAYS/son_of_man.html
But that takes as beyond the theme of the present
post.
Georges
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AMA
from you.
Criticising, full of knowledge, Georgeful !
Is it important to mention that every representation or historic fact
about that "Amarna period" was destroyed or hidden right after the
murder of Tuth-ankh-amun, who was said to be originally Tuth-ankh-
atun.
This "accidental death" of an 18 years old Pharao marked the return to
polytheism.
May be we shall forget that "Yahoo stuff".
On Jun 29, 7:10 pm, Georges Metanomski <zg...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> --- On Wed, 6/25/08, chazwin <chazwy...@yahoo.com> wrote:
chazwin
But thank fuck Christianity did not completely model itself on
Judaism. Christianity is violent and bigoted enough without that kind
of exclusive, aggressive, racist crap eh?
On Jun 29, 8:10 pm, Georges Metanomski <zg...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> --- On Wed, 6/25/08, chazwin <chazwy...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > From: chazwin <chazwy...@yahoo.com>
Palestinians and any other the others that Jews shunned and excluded
from their little club of fascists.
> Yet, it forfeited it and became instead one of the
> most inhumane ideologies of ravage, of injustice and
> of hatred.
core beliefs of Judaism, at least SOME Christians pay lip service to
charity and justice.
Georges Metanomski
--- On Tue, 7/1/08, chazwin <chaz...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> From: chazwin <chaz...@yahoo.com>
> Subject: [epistemology 8855] Re: Nothing SHOCKING (Chazwin et Al)
> To: "Epistemology" <episte...@googlegroups.com>
> Date: Tuesday, July 1, 2008, 12:15 AM
> Oh interesting.
> But thank fuck Christianity did not completely model itself
> on
> Judaism. Christianity is violent and bigoted enough without
> that kind
> of exclusive, aggressive, racist crap eh?
====================
G:
Judging by your post it really is.
Georges.
====================
Georges Metanomski
--- On Mon, 6/30/08, AMA <andali...@gmail.com> wrote:
> From: AMA <andali...@gmail.com>
> Subject: [epistemology 8854] Re: Nothing SHOCKING (Chazwin et Al)
> To: "Epistemology" <episte...@googlegroups.com>
> Date: Monday, June 30, 2008, 9:13 PM
> Thank you Georges. This is the kind of Answer that we were
> expecting
> from you.
>
> Criticising, full of knowledge, Georgeful !
>
> Is it important to mention that every representation or
> historic fact
> about that "Amarna period" was destroyed or
> hidden right after the
> murder of Tuth-ankh-amun, who was said to be originally
> Tuth-ankh-
> atun.
>
> This "accidental death" of an 18 years old Pharao
> marked the return to
> polytheism.
>
> May be we shall forget that "Yahoo stuff".
===============
G:
Thanks,
Nice to talk for a change to somebody civilised and
knowing what he is talking about.
As to the drab post-Amarna period, I'm rather interested
by the enigma of Smenkhare.
Some affirm that it was a disguise of Nefertiti, who
would have taken up the torch dropped from her dead man's
hand.
Others pretend that she had an affaire with Horemheb and
that they have both eliminated Akhenaton.
I dismiss the latter for purely sentimental reasons.
Since my childhood I entertained a secret affection for
Nefertiti and simply cannot see her as lover and
accomplice of this Egyptian Beria.
Cheers
Georges
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chazwin
On Jul 1, 6:32 am, Georges Metanomski <zg...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > From: chazwin <chazwy...@yahoo.com>
> > To: "Epistemology" <episte...@googlegroups.com>
> > Date: Tuesday, July 1, 2008, 12:15 AM
> > Oh interesting.
> > But thank fuck Christianity did not completely model itself
> > on
> > Judaism. Christianity is violent and bigoted enough without
> > that kind
> > of exclusive, aggressive, racist crap eh?
>
> ====================
> G:
> Judging by your post it really is.
> Georges.
> ====================
Georges Metanomski
--- On Tue, 7/1/08, chazwin <chaz...@yahoo.com> wrote:
================
The violent, bigoted, arrogant and stupid Christian
culture and education so elegantly embodied by your post.
chazwin
arrogant I doubt that you are big enough to admit the same for Judaism
in which racism and violence is enshrined in its basic principles and
encouraged by its history.
Georges Metanomski
--- On Tue, 7/1/08, chazwin <chaz...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> From: chazwin <chaz...@yahoo.com>
> Subject: [epistemology 8862] Re: Nothing SHOCKING (Chazwin et Al)
> To: "Epistemology" <episte...@googlegroups.com>
> Date: Tuesday, July 1, 2008, 1:30 PM
> On Jul 1, 10:36 am, Georges Metanomski
> <zg...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > --- On Tue, 7/1/08, chazwin
> <chazwy...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >> >
> > ================
G: (previous)
> > The violent, bigoted, arrogant and stupid Christian
> > culture and education so elegantly embodied by your
> post.
====================
> Whilst I agree that Christian culture is violent, bigoted,
> stupid and
> arrogant I doubt that you are big enough to admit the same
> for Judaism
> in which racism and violence is enshrined in its basic
> principles and
> encouraged by its history.
====================
G:
You don't read carefully. I said that your post was
violent, bigoted, stupid and arrogant, in harmony with
your Christian "culture" and education.
You completed it with the unbelievably stupid assertion
that 2000 years of anti-semitic pogroms are the history
of Jewish racism and violence.
My being big or otherwise is here immaterial, only my
assertions count.
My pejorative opinion about orthodox Judaism is clearly
expressed in
"ISRAEL-PALESTINE AND THE PIGS"
http://findgeorges.com/ROOT/WRITINGS/POLITICS/israel_palestine_and_the_pigs.html
and in "WHAT ISRAEL MEANS TO ME"
http://findgeorges.com/ROOT/WRITINGS/ESSAYS/israel.html
But there is another dimension of Jewishness, that of
culture, of habits and of attitudes, which is by far
the most humane of all.
I can take illiteracy, violence, bigotry, arrogance and
stupidity one by one, but not all together. Try to
restrict yourself to one or two. The complete
compositions will henceforth go unanswered to trash.
Georges.
=================
chazwin
On Jul 1, 3:10 pm, Georges Metanomski <zg...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> --- On Tue, 7/1/08, chazwin <chazwy...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > Subject: [epistemology 8862] Re: Nothing SHOCKING (Chazwin et Al)
> > To: "Epistemology" <episte...@googlegroups.com>
> > Date: Tuesday, July 1, 2008, 1:30 PM
> > On Jul 1, 10:36 am, Georges Metanomski
> > <zg...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > > --- On Tue, 7/1/08, chazwin
> > <chazwy...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > > ================
> G: (previous)
> > > The violent, bigoted, arrogant and stupid Christian
> > > culture and education so elegantly embodied by your
> > post.
>
> ====================> Whilst I agree that Christian culture is violent, bigoted,
> > stupid and
> > arrogant I doubt that you are big enough to admit the same
> > for Judaism
> > in which racism and violence is enshrined in its basic
> > principles and
> > encouraged by its history.
>
> ====================
> G:
> You don't read carefully. I said that your post was
> violent, bigoted, stupid and arrogant, in harmony with
> your Christian "culture" and education.
as there were no threats or anger in it. If it was bigoted than it was
an ironic response you your bigoted suggestions that implied Jews were
pure of the same characteristics that I ascribe to Christianity.
Reporting the opinion of a Jew was perhaps unwise , but would not be
considered stupid unless I had declared them my own. As for arrogance
- look in the mirror Georgie!
>
> You completed it with the unbelievably stupid assertion
> that 2000 years of anti-semitic pogroms are the history
> of Jewish racism and violence.
Post 1948 will do, and any other time in the past, when the Jews have
been in control of land, sought control of land or otherwise tried to
deprive others of theirs. I see no distinction between the behaviour
of Jews in "Isreal" and that of the Gentiles who support them, except
that racial exclusivity is part of Judaism, whereas in Christianity
anyone from any "race" can act like a twat.
>
> My being big or otherwise is here immaterial, only my
> assertions count.
> My pejorative opinion about orthodox Judaism is clearly
> expressed in
>
> But there is another dimension of Jewishness, that of
> culture, of habits and of attitudes, which is by far
> the most humane of all.
reject. There are many examples from anthropological studies which
leave Jewish culture behind in the Humane League.
>
> I can take illiteracy, violence, bigotry, arrogance and
> stupidity one by one, but not all together. Try to
> restrict yourself to one or two. The complete
> compositions will henceforth go unanswered to trash.
You are the bigot here. The arrogance is yours too.
> Georges.
> =================
AMA
reading your posts I'm wondering which is the most "violent" religion?
Some say Islam is violent; cos the Islamists acts are mediatised. Some
think it's Christianity because of the Crusades the cause may also be
the Inquisition....or else.
Some would say Judaism because of the acts of some (or many)
Israelite.
Others would say Hiduism because of some violent manifestations of
violence against muslims or against some "castes"..........
Anyway!
Do you think that religion is the mirror of Human Mind and a product
of its imagination (made by man)? Then we can say that Human is bad
and violent because he made his own "divine rules".
Do you think that religious people today are really following some
"mysterious divine rules"? Then, in this case we can say that religion
is violent.
I read somewhere that for any human group, the existence of common
rules and, more important, common enemies, strengthens (I guess it
means: make stronger) the unity of the group or society. I guess then
that if the religion was a divine message, there would be only one
religion.
I really think that Human is violent and that religion is "simply" a
pretext for the Plebe.
On Jul 1, 5:32 am, Georges Metanomski <zg...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> --- On Tue, 7/1/08, chazwin <chazwy...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > From: chazwin <chazwy...@yahoo.com>
AMA
Ce qui nous réuni c'est cette admiration et cet "amour" pour cette
merveilleuse femme qu'était Nefertiti (peut-étre pas pour les mêmes
raisons).
Ce qui nous sépare, à mon grand regret, c'est un gouffre de
connaissance et de savoir.
Je dois t'avouer que je n'avais jamais entendu parler de cette aspect
de l'affaire Toutankhamon.
Je pense toutefois que les plus grands faits historiques ont étés
motivés par des histoires de sentiments (amour, jalousie, colére,
envie, amitié....). Les hommes ne seront jamais que des hommes. Tous
les hommes ont des sentiments et malgré toute la reflexion malgré tout
le détachement que l'on peut avoir vis à vis de notre situation
humaine nos sentiments nous guident vers certains chemins ou nous
empêchent d'aller vers d'autres.
Même les gens les plus érudits sont motivés par des sentiments, ceux-
là mêmes qui les ont conduits à la source du savoir.
Meilleurs sentiments cher Georges,
On Jul 1, 6:18 am, Georges Metanomski <zg...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> --- On Mon, 6/30/08, AMA <andalibmed...@gmail.com> wrote:
ornamentalmind
>
> - Show quoted text -
AMA
ornamentalmind
AMA
Both may be true. Both may not be.
archytas
life have nearly always been constructive, decent and properly
sensitive to others. I nicked a few in my time and they were just
like other crooks. Today there are reports that Muslims are using
their religion to excuse crap thievery and drug involvements! We can
all lack charm. I now have no interest in ancient texts, other than
any with historical merit on science, engineering and social-idea
history. Religions are crap - yet ways of living can be different and
infomative. I would much rather be living in a cooperative sensitive
to, and working with people around me, and have found a lot of support
of late in the community of Jews my partner hails from (she rejects
the religious crap - as her parents really do too, though this would
be something I would not say to the community). Chaz spars with
Georges - we just never will get that headline in the Sun! Bolton
Evening News possibly - 'dog fucks bitch in street' is news here.
This religious crap is problematic - as are people like Dawkins who
exploit the market for it. There are more important issues -
including how shit like this consumes us. A black dog, could of
course 'crow'. Anyone who meets our dog will know dogs can crow, or
at least this one can.
Most of our actions contain some unconscious 'motivation', perhaps
mostly unconscious, the will to power. This is extremely disturbing
as I believe, if this unconscious mularky is correct, that I may be
stalking Chaz. I have just applied for a job a Sussex University.
Much as I wish to believe my conscious reasons - money, living on the
coast, closer to my sister and maybe a few colleagues I don''t think
are arses, it could be the case I am about to lapse into a demonic
stalking. Fear not Chaz - I have no form! The job is in the
humanities, which would be a nice change of direction for me now I'm
too thick to do science.
chazwin
sufficient number of nut-cases and miscellaneous eccentrics to make
belief that the world is not composed of identical town centres all
with the same M&S, Woolworth, W H Smith and Primark. Brighton has all
that too, but also has some individuality. It also has theatres/
concert halls a comedy venue cinemas including an "art house" one, and
it is all bounded by a natural (though declining) wilderness which
still brings fresh air to wash away some of the pollution: the sea.
ornamentalmind
archytas
down to a dozen or so applications. I've been accepted for a job in
Cairo, but it doesn't start until January. Other irons in the fire,
but Brighton does appeal.
ornamentalmind
chazwin
On Jul 3, 2:40 am, archytas <nwte...@googlemail.com> wrote:
> Thanks - I do need to get out of this dead-beat town. Have to knuckle
> down to a dozen or so applications. I've been accepted for a job in
> Cairo, but it doesn't start until January. Other irons in the fire,
> but Brighton does appeal.
lungs and when I was there last I had a feeling of disquiet at the
growth of Islam. The last ten or 15 years has witnessed an alarming
growth in fundamentalism in many places - shit , I wonder why?
I had a funny moment or two whilst there. I have often worn a
Palestinian scarf since my teens, as it has many uses like keeping
your neck really warm especially on my motorbike. As it was January I
bought one from a market in Cairo, and wore it like an old friend. But
in all the years I used ithem I was never greeted with a raised fist
and a shout of "Araffat!" - this happened twice in the same week on
the streets of Cairo. I can't help but think that that scarf probably
gave me a fair amount of protection.
chazwin
On Jul 3, 5:52 am, ornamentalmind <ornamentalm...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> *** feels downright ignorant and provincial in comparason **
archytas
Notlob of Monty Python). It boasts the worst university in Britain
and violent drinking on Bradshawgate. My neighbours will be served
with a possession order tomorrow and sell drugs to kids, use their own
in burglaries and blame me for their misfortune (I am an outsider
here). With a few AKMs it would be Deliverance City. The decent
industry upped sticks a couple of decades back and nothing has
replaced it, especially for the non-academically able.
You know I rant about bureaucracy (the Bureaucron Infestation) - yet I
must admit, having worked at Bolton and Preston (UCLAN) unis that both
were equally bureaucratic and yet UCLAN is quite a good place and has
36,000 students and a world-wide base and Notlob has about 5,000 and
is utterly crap (it wasn't once). Preston had much the same problems
as Notlob and is actually a smaller town - yet it grew this sector and
Notlob failed miserably (you'd laugh if I told you how it failed to
get university title for years). Nothing more provincial than Notlob,
not even in the swamps.
I too have worn the Arab scarf Chaz. Once to express sympathy with
Palestinian plight, more often to act as some solace for the lack of
bullet-proof equipment. I gave mine to a kid in Bahrain.
ornamentalmind
streets of NYC for my wife. She likes and wears it...even though she
is from a Jewish lineage. I wish I had purchased one for me too.
Perhaps I'm not totally provincial...just not much world travel.
Always the obvious possibility of having the epidemic blinders of the
USA view...sadly.
archytas
- it's just US dominance of the mainstream and edutainment that makes
this look different. Show me Hicksville Orn and I'll show you
Hillbilly here (we don't really have terms in the UK). Want some
sexism, lets off to Eastern Europe, want the KKK back - same place -
Hitler worship - Cossack Russia. Countries really pissed off with
migrant workers? France and Germany. The crooked deep politics isn't
just American - we sell more arms abroad than you do - who put you
onto the Tongs and Traids in China if it was your old masters here?
The money still tends to manipulate the warmachine - ours is crap so
it chooses yours.
ornamentalmind
a long time. While I am not a good study of history, I have read
accounts about how major legislation for a long time here has been
founded upon the notion that everything must support the military
industrial complex. This term was used much more in the
60s-70s...today, too many people still are lost in the dream of having
a computer in every room, new cars, vacations and everything that
makes life 'worthwhile'. Blindness.
Yes, I'm sure that ignorance is a universal human trait Neil. And,
I've seen some on tv and read about some. Here, I've had a gun put in
my face, seen the skin heads, stair sitters injecting, the result of
Reagan's defunding of mental health...thus all the crazies on the
streets, under the bridges. 'We', in the states, had a relatively
egalitarian view...of course with many exceptions, a couple of decades
ago.
As I've posted, my father was in the 90% tax bracket and was content.
Today, someone making what he used to make might not have to pay
anything. The result for the common good is obvious. I've heard it
said that to understand a culture, all one must do is look at how it
treats the least within it.
Now we may have to say that about humanity as a whole again...sadly.
archytas
have lost much that was worthwhile - even that there has been a
campaign against egalitarianism (several really). Veblen was
articulating this 100 years ago - I'm sick of poncey academic writing
on it - 'governmentality' and such (Nikolas Rose, Foucault - my own to
earn some corn), 'docile bodies' - hundreds of ways to look at it.
Our neighbours have just been served with a possession order - they
live in a mad world of welfare sponsored criminality and depravity -
god knows what their 'ratonality' is, but it makes me cry. Utterly
wasted lives that have clearly hurt many others and produced kids who
are already doing the same.
I think we have been taught not to look problems in the face - and I
think quite a lot of religious thinking (as opposed to ritualised
garbage) addresses the real problems - questions about what the devil
is, what temptations are and so on. I'd like to incorporate this in
my writing.
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