This is why we didn't get a Tory landslide....it's because Labour can do no
wrong.
Are you trying to break the record on the amount of completely useless posts
someone can make on usenet within an hour?
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> Are you trying to break the record on the amount of completely useless
> posts
> someone can make on usenet within an hour?
>
He may well be but the sentiments of his post are spot on.
Remove from the voting pool anyone who doesn't work and see what the result
of the election would have been.
I'm sure (seeing as we all know it's possible to tie votes to individuals
via the unique serial number on the ballot paper) that some data analysis
could be run to demonstrate same?
After all, there are apparently parts of Glasgow with 80% unemployment and
yet all six Glasgow seats returned Labour candidates?
Go figure?
I agree entirely, and I wish Cameron and Clegg the very best of luck. IMO,
they are going to need it.
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Oh dear had a bad Labour day!!
Thick are you? Try reading my other post... :)
Prove it.
> Skilled workers have also left Britain in droves over the last few
> years, denting the Conservative voter base.
Prove it.
> The reason why a Labour govt is so **** hard to get rid of is because
> collectively, the people of this country have become stupid.
Prove it.
> Average Labour voter IQ tends to be less that Tory voter IQ.
Prove it.
> It's fact that IQ and fertility are negatively correlated....
It isn't so I'll invite you to prove that too.
> one reason
> why Labour voters (or people with lower IQ) outbreed the rest of the
> population.
Nonsense.
> This is why we didn't get a Tory landslide....it's because Labour can
> do no wrong.
Oh dear. There was no Conservative landslide becasue not enough people
wanted them. It's really quite simple.
In 2005 Labour got less of the popular vote than the tories got last
week and ended up with a 60 odd seat majority. Thats some indication of
the extent of the gerrymandering thats gone on under the governance of
the people's party.
or disappear from the electoral system?
we've had thirteen years of bad labour days
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> I agree entirely, and I wish Cameron and Clegg the very best of luck. IMO,
> they are going to need it.
Yep. I'm not fancied another term of Labour bashing civil liberties into
oblivion. I didn't fancy the Tories with a massive majority either after
the Thatcher years.
This is at least notionally different. I do hope the Libs and the Tories
manage to moderate each other for the better and not the worse.
--
Tim Watts
Hung parliament? Rather have a hanged parliament.
I have to say my area (Stoke On Trent) has had labour MPs and councils for
eternity.
It has been continually voted as worst place to live, has low investment and
low skills/education/aspirations and is also considered a BNP stronghold.
Bollocks.
> Remove from the voting pool anyone who doesn't work and see what the
> result of the election would have been.
>
Why stop there?
Remove all Jews, Muzzies, Sikhs, Blacks... Hell, remove all those who
dont vote BNP, then "see what the result of the election would have been."
> I'm sure (seeing as we all know it's possible to tie votes to
> individuals via the unique serial number on the ballot paper) that some
> data analysis could be run to demonstrate same?
>
> After all, there are apparently parts of Glasgow with 80% unemployment
> and yet all six Glasgow seats returned Labour candidates?
>
Glasgow? Try the whole of Scotland... Oh, the Tories did hold onto one
seat. That must means 90% unemployment in Scotland by your twisted logic.
> Go figure?
Yeah, please do.
Anyone on the dole or otherwise collecting monetary benefits is going to
vote Labour in their own self interest. It is only those that do honest
work
and pay taxes that will vote Tory to pay for the handouts the begging
community north of Hadrian's Wall or west of Offa's dyke want.
Remove from the voting pool anyone that has their own devolution
and let them collect their dole money from their own economy.
I don't vote Edinburgh or Cardiff, why should they vote London?
Can you cite that?
If so, so flipping what? Who votes for their neighbouring towns interests?
EVERYONE VOTES FOR THEIR OWN INTERESTS!!! Numpty.
> It is only those that do honest
> work
> and pay taxes that will vote Tory
Like bankers with their bonuses?
Again cite. I work and haven't voted Tory in my life, never will do either.
> to pay for the handouts the begging
They're beggars now.... LOL
Hope you remember that if ever you're laid off, which happened 10 times
to me while Thatcher ruled, hope you'll throw away your polling card as
well.
> community north of Hadrian's Wall or west of Offa's dyke want.
> Remove from the voting pool anyone that has their own devolution
> and let them collect their dole money from their own economy.
> I don't vote Edinburgh or Cardiff, why should they vote London?
>
Oh. It's Scottish and Welsh unemployed you're having a go at now?
You're just pissed off that Cameron didn't win by a landslide and had to
go begging to Clegg for help... "Want to be Deputy Prime Minister? Ooh,
suits you sir!".
I agree and also wish Cameron and Clegg the very best of luck.
--
Harry Merrick.
Some sour grapes, eh Lou?? A lot of what he says is true, but you don't like
it because you yourself exemplify it. Low IQ being one of them I suspect!
"Prove it" indeed! - The cry of the disappointed with no argument!!
Begrudgery does not become you. Labour lost 100m seats. Proof enough!
--
Harry Merrick.
Of course I can.
"Anyone on the dole or otherwise collecting monetary benefits is going to
vote Labour in their own self interest." --
written by Androcles, Wednesday, May 12, 2010 8:25 AM
Can you cite who said "Bollocks"?
> If so, so flipping what?
EVERYONE VOTES FOR THEIR OWN INTERESTS!!! That's flipping what, Numpty.
> Who votes for their neighbouring towns interests?
You do, Numpty.
>
> EVERYONE VOTES FOR THEIR OWN INTERESTS!!! Numpty.
>
Can you cite that?
>> It is only those that do honest work
>> and pay taxes that will vote Tory
>
> Like bankers with their bonuses?
Oh, its the English employed you are having a go at now?
Wait, you'll need a citation:
"EVERYONE VOTES FOR THEIR OWN INTERESTS!!!" --- by Numpty, Wednesday, May
12, 2010.
That includes bankers and their bonuses.
> Again cite.
Ok.
"It is only those that do honest work and pay taxes that will vote Tory" by
Androcles, Wednesday, May 12, 2010 8:25 AM
> I work and haven't voted Tory in my life, never will do either.
Can you cite that, Numpty?
>
>> to pay for the handouts the begging
>
> They're beggars now.... LOL
LOL That's what I called them, Numpty... ROFLMAO
>
> Hope you remember that if ever you're laid off, which happened 10 times to
> me while Thatcher ruled, hope you'll throw away your polling card as well.
Not at all, I've never voted Tory although I have been laid off by a
Labour government, Numpty.
>
>> community north of Hadrian's Wall or west of Offa's dyke want.
>> Remove from the voting pool anyone that has their own devolution
>> and let them collect their dole money from their own economy.
>> I don't vote Edinburgh or Cardiff, why should they vote London?
>>
>
> Oh. It's Scottish and Welsh unemployed you're having a go at now?
Not at all, Numpty. I'm all in favour of the Scots and Cymry standing
on their own feet and I want the see them self-reliant, then they can stop
voting in the English Parliament.
Your reading comprehension needs an MoT and service, Numpty.
>
> You're just pissed off that Cameron didn't win by a landslide and had to
> go begging to Clegg for help... "Want to be Deputy Prime Minister? Ooh,
> suits you sir!".
>
I'm actually very pleased we have a coalition committed to electoral reform
and the Scottish git with his beggar followers is out on his arse, Numpty.
"EVERYONE VOTES FOR THEIR OWN INTERESTS!!!" --- by Numpty, Wednesday, May
12, 2010.
As a Scot I am horrified about the stupidity of the electorate here,
vote for the people who done absolutley nothing to help them just
because their name is not Maggie Thatcher. Of course if we educate
them they will vote SNP.
Nkosi
Yes time to sort that one out, card carrying commies should be exiled
to mother Russia.
Nkosi
I think thats going a bit far regarding the benefits etc.
My take is that people in some areas just have an almost religious belief in
"Labour" - certainly the area I am in is like that.
Nobody goes to the polls thinking of how to best keep on collecting dole -
just the thought of Labour is so engrained, its unlikely ever to change no
matter what the party or the council do.
Mr.Will
This is part of the point I was making - thats the feeling in this area.
It has absorbed all the scandals from the supposed "clean" party, accepted
the spin, taken the worsening unemployment, investment, high levels of
extremism, and yet the labour voters here would never think of voting for
anyone else.
>
>> to pay for the handouts the begging
>
> They're beggars now.... LOL
>
> Hope you remember that if ever you're laid off, which happened 10 times to
> me while Thatcher ruled, hope you'll throw away your polling card as well.
>
What would your solution have been to the union problems of the time?
Jobs "created" for a full employment that meant everything was losing money
hand over fist with unions demanding more from the government and the
country surely could not have continued forever.
A similar situation seems to be happening in British Airways at present.
> You're just pissed off that Cameron didn't win by a landslide and had to
> go begging to Clegg for help... "Want to be Deputy Prime Minister? Ooh,
> suits you sir!".
Cameron won by a very big landslide - as the figures have borne out, higher
vote share and "swing" than Blair or Thatcher. The system has been loaded
towards Labour it seems and so we now have the coalition.
Make no mistake though Gordon, Campbell, Mandy and the Labour clan have been
given a resounding beating in the election.
Mr.Will
Whenever something is "free" it will be paid for by all and abused
by some.
Free water... have as much as you like, throw it on your lawn.
Oh wait, you don't need to, a typical British summer is rain every
day -- until there is a drought and the lawn needs it, then along
comes the hosepipe ban. You don't have a water meter? Well,
just charge per house, whether it has one occupant or ten. I live
alone, my neighbours have three kids and a swimming pool.
I flush the toilet 4 times a day, they flush the toilet 20 times a
day, with treated, potable water. And I pay the same as they do.
Free TV... as long as you buy a license. Per house -- but not
if you are over 75. So my neighbours have four TVs, but only
one license. And you get the license at half-price of you are blind.
Free health care... but you can't have dental treatment beyond
fillings, extraction and plastic choppers unless you pay for it.
No bridges, no implants. Granny gets a headache - she goes to
the doctor, its "free". But it isn't free, and the guy that delivers
the laundry to the hospital drives around the block a few times
to idle away his day, it's paid for by the NHS - which is paid for
by YOU.
Free roads... go wherever you like. But the road tax depends on
the vehicle with gas guzzlers paying the most, and those wretched
humps are everywhere. So are the speed cameras, especially
where they can collect the most revenue. Fuel, $7.50 a gallon.
Any American would start a revolution if they had to pay that.
And don't drive into London, its �8 for the congestion charge,
even for pensioners.
Tobacco and alcohol -- pay VAT on the duty as well as the
product.
Turn 60 and you don't visit the Jobcentre, you collect pension
credit instead. Some people cannot afford to work, they'll be
worse off if they did.
And when we step back and look at all the waste, we find this
nanny state is in debt from handing out benefits with one hand
and taking them back with the other.
This country once made cars, planes, ships and railways and we
sold them around the world. The people of the west and the north
raised sheep and dug coal and made steel and turned cotton into
shirts and sheets. Our wealth was our industry and we built an
empire through trade, we started the industrial revolution. Now
we import the goods we once made, a TV is cheaper from Asia.
What do we have to sell now to buy our imports? Insurance?
The unions and the Labour movement have brought us to our
knees, the investors have pulled out, and guys like Brown are
proud of their achievements. They make me want to spit.
Sorry, wrong lad. When I see such ridiculous claims, which are either
nonsensical, illogical or unproveable I kick the OP's arse for being such a
fuckwit. Personally I don't give a tinker's cuss which government you have,
it doesn't concern me in the least other than academically.
I am by no means interested in Labour and their defeat is welcome.
My only point being that in this area, to vote Labour is akin to religion,
and I am pretty certain that even if all benefits were cut, those people
would still be voting Labour. Thats all.
Mr.Will
I don't think you were kidding with this either were you? Jeez, no
wonder the country's in such a state, some people's brains are being
drained and their bodies left here.
FOUD
Oh I see! A copout then eh? Oh, and actually, the Conservatives *did* have a
landslide. It was only the fact that the system was so biased towards New
Labour that prevented the Conservatives from having an outright win!
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Harry Merrick.