Feedback on proposed character names etc.

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Douglas Davidson

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Jan 7, 2009, 4:30:05 PM1/7/09
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Thanks for the updated version with preliminary font images; it's a
great help.

First, two questions about unification:

e-4E2 BILL WITH YEN SIGN: is this clearly distinguished from an
enclosed yen sign?

e-82C HASH KEY: shouldn't this be U+0023 U+20E3 as with the numbers?
it seems to be consistent with the numbers for each carrier

Second, comments on proposed character names:

General comments: it's not always clear what the distinction is
between HEAD and FACE in names; it might be better to stick to one of
these unless there's a clear distinction. The cat faces mostly seem
to parallel some of the human faces, but the corresponding names
aren't always consistent; perhaps they should be.

Specific comments are appended below.

Douglas Davidson


e-02A CLOCK SYMBOL: none of the other clock variants have "symbol" in
their names; perhaps just CLOCK would suffice

e-198 HAIR NEEDING A CUT: the original significance seems to be
something like "hairdresser" or "beauty parlor"; perhaps this could be
shorted to just HAIRCUT

e-1AC RED FACED OGRE: names probably shouldn't mention color unless
it's really necessary--perhaps this could be JAPANESE OGRE or ONI
DEMON or something similar

e-1B0 EXTRATERRESTRIAL ALIEN: perhaps ALIEN HEAD or ALIEN FACE would
be more consistent

e-1B5 GUARDSMAN: the first female Beefeater was appointed last year,
so perhaps something ungendered like GUARD or BEEFEATER might be better

e-1BA BABY CHICK, e-1BB FRONT-FACING BABY CHICK: 'chick' refers to a
baby chicken, so 'baby' is redundant here and could be omitted

e-1E1 HONEY BEE: this is more usually one word, HONEYBEE

e-328 FACE WITH LOOK OF TRIUMPH: this would be more consistent as
TRIUMPHANT FACE

e-329 FACE WINKING WITH STUCK OUT TONGUE: this would be more
consistent as WINKING FACE WITH STUCK OUT TONGUE

e-32B FACE WITH YUMMY LOOK: this sounds odd, but I'm not sure what
would be better; perhaps SATISFIED FACE

e-32E FACE WITH A MASK: this would be more consistent as FACE WITH MASK

e-339 LITTLE CRYING FACE: 'little' seems inappropriate here, since
the face isn't little; perhaps just CRYING FACE would be enough to
distinguish it from e-33A

e-33B PALE FACE: this would be more consistent as FEARFUL FACE

e-341 SHOCKED FACE WITH SCREAM: perhaps just SHOCKED FACE or
SCREAMING FACE would suffice

e-343 SMIRKY FACE: this would be more consistent as SMIRKING FACE

e-345 DISAPPOINTED BUT RELIEVED FACE: this might be more consistent
as DISAPPOINTED FACE WITH COLD SWEAT

e-35A PERSON MAKING POUTING FACE this might be more consistent as
PERSON WITH POUTING FACE

e-4B0 BLACK HOUSE, e-4B1 HOME: usually 'black' is used to distinguish
filled-in from open glyphs, but that doesn't seem to be the
distinction here

e-4D6 HIGH HEELED SHOE: perhaps HIGH-HEELED SHOE might be better

e-4DD PRIZE BAG: perhaps MONEY BAG instead

e-514 TWO JAPANESE FLAGS: perhaps CROSSED JAPANESE FLAGS instead

e-519 GIRLS DOLLS FESTIVAL: the repeated 's' suffix seems awkward;
perhaps GIRLS DOLL FESTIVAL instead

e-51D JAPANESE SPARKLER: is this specifically Japanese, or would just
SPARKLER suffice?

e-520 DECORATIVE CONFETTI BALL: are there non-decorative confetti
balls? perhaps just CONFETTI BALL would suffice

e-530 LOUD SPEAKER: this is more usually one word, LOUDSPEAKER

e-B7F SYMBOLS SIGN: generally 'sign' seems to be used for an actual
physical sign, 'symbol' for a written symbol; for consistency with the
surrounding characters, this would have to be SYMBOLS SYMBOL

e-54D ROLODEX: this is a company name, and is probably trademarked

e-553 FOOT PRINTS: this is more usually one word, FOOTPRINTS

e-805 BLACK SILK HAT: perhaps TOP HAT instead

e-80F A DIE: few other names have an article; if DIE is ambiguous,
perhaps SIX-SIDED DIE would do

e-972 MEAT ON A BONE: perhaps this could omit the article, and just
be MEAT ON BONE

e-974 ROASTED SWEET POTATO: perhaps just SWEET POTATO would suffice

e-97C LOLLYPOP: this is more usually LOLLIPOP

Markus Scherer

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Jan 7, 2009, 5:39:30 PM1/7/09
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On Wed, Jan 7, 2009 at 1:30 PM, Douglas Davidson <ddav...@apple.com> wrote:
Thanks for the updated version with preliminary font images; it's a
great help.

Thank you for your feedback!

I am giving a few answers below and will create a project issue for the rest.

e-82C HASH KEY:  shouldn't this be U+0023 U+20E3 as with the numbers?
it seems to be consistent with the numbers for each carrier

Yes, we plan to do that. Kent Karlsson suggested this too: http://code.google.com/p/emoji4unicode/issues/detail?id=55

Second, comments on proposed character names:

General comments:  it's not always clear what the distinction is
between HEAD and FACE in names; it might be better to stick to one of
these unless there's a clear distinction.  The cat faces mostly seem
to parallel some of the human faces, but the corresponding names
aren't always consistent; perhaps they should be.

It's best if you can suggest specific name changes for specific symbols.

e-1BA BABY CHICK, e-1BB FRONT-FACING BABY CHICK:  'chick' refers to a
baby chicken, so 'baby' is redundant here and could be omitted

I disagree. "Chick" can also refer to a person, while I don't think that's the case for "baby chick".

e-4D6 HIGH HEELED SHOE:  perhaps HIGH-HEELED SHOE might be better

We are planning to rename this one WOMANS PUMPS: http://code.google.com/p/emoji4unicode/issues/detail?id=60

e-4DD PRIZE BAG:  perhaps MONEY BAG instead


e-54D ROLODEX:  this is a company name, and is probably trademarked

Rick McGowan

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Jan 7, 2009, 6:01:58 PM1/7/09
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> We are planning to rename this one WOMANS
> PUMPS: http://code.google.com/p/emoji4unicode/issues/detail?id=60

Even worse. I like Doug Davidson's suggestion better than that.

Rick

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