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Morris ShitsPatrick

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Nov 2, 2009, 6:17:10 PM11/2/09
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He's a good Muslim boy and everyone knows those good Muslims don't drink and
drive and don't do cocaine...what's wrong with those stupid cops? It must be
some sort of racist setup or something.


whitebread

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Nov 2, 2009, 7:16:26 PM11/2/09
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"Morris ShitsPatrick" <M...@Mojo.com> wrote in message
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> He's a good Muslim boy and everyone knows those good Muslims don't drink and drive and
> don't do cocaine...what's wrong with those stupid cops? It must be some sort of racist
> setup or something.


This from Wikipedia:

Arrest
Jaffer was charged with drunk driving and possession of cocaine in September 2009, after
Ontario Provincial Police stopped him for speeding through the town of Palgrave, Ontario.
His driver's licence has been suspended for 90 days and he is to appear in court in
Orangeville, Ontario on October 19. During the 2008 election Jaffer's campaign approved
radio ads accusing NDP leader Jack Layton of being soft on marijuana use. The ads said, in
part, "Edmontonians understand how difficult it is to make sure our children make the
right choices, especially on serious issues like drug use. The Conservative Party supports
drug-free schools and getting tough with drug dealers who sell illegal drugs to children.
Don't let our schools go up in smoke. On Oct. 14, vote Conservative."

And it's the Conservatives that now want to increase sentences on drug dealers? Maybe
what they need to do is clean House first.


John Fleming

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Nov 2, 2009, 8:58:19 PM11/2/09
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On Mon, 2 Nov 2009 16:17:10 -0700, while chained to a desk
in the scriptorium "Morris ShitsPatrick" <M...@Mojo.com>
wrote:

> $He's a good Muslim boy and everyone knows those good Muslims don't drink and
> $drive and don't do cocaine...what's wrong with those stupid cops? It must be
> $some sort of racist setup or something.

In the case of Rahim Jaffer, as in the case of anybody else
caught drinking and driving and/or using illicit drugs, I'll
let the courts decide whether he is innocent or guilty.

--

John Fleming
Edmonton, Canada

Old MacDonald had a farm E-I-E-I-O
And on that farm he had a genome E-I-E-I-O
With a SNP SNP here and a SNP SNP there,
Here a SNP, there a SNP, everywhere a SNP SNP
Old MacDonald had a farm E-I-E-I-O

Morris ShitsPatrick

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Hahahahah...faith in the courts..there's one born every minute.

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snowman

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Morris ShitsPatrick wrote:
> Hahahahah...faith in the courts..there's one born every minute.
>
>

And what would you suggest as the alternative? Perhaps we should all
arm ourselves with 9mm Glocks and take care of justice ourselves? Idiot.


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-Gordon Ramsey

Morris ShitsPatrick

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Nov 2, 2009, 9:38:34 PM11/2/09
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Then you'd have to shoot yourself in the head blowman.

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>
> And what would you suggest as the alternative? Perhaps we should all arm

> ourselves with 9mm Glocks and take care of justice ourselves? I'm an

John Fleming

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On Mon, 2 Nov 2009 19:02:17 -0700, while chained to a desk

in the scriptorium "Morris ShitsPatrick" <M...@Mojo.com>
wrote:

> $Hahahahah...faith in the courts..there's one born every minute.

While they are far from perfect, they are better than any of
the alternatives.

> $"John Fleming" <nos...@sprynet.com> wrote in message
> $news:4f3ve5l9jnskudfdk...@4ax.com...
> $> On Mon, 2 Nov 2009 16:17:10 -0700, while chained to a desk
> $> in the scriptorium "Morris ShitsPatrick" <M...@Mojo.com>
> $> wrote:
> $>
> $>> $He's a good Muslim boy and everyone knows those good Muslims don't drink
> $>> and
> $>> $drive and don't do cocaine...what's wrong with those stupid cops? It
> $>> must be
> $>> $some sort of racist setup or something.
> $>
> $> In the case of Rahim Jaffer, as in the case of anybody else
> $> caught drinking and driving and/or using illicit drugs, I'll
> $> let the courts decide whether he is innocent or guilty.
> $>
> $> --
> $>
> $> John Fleming
> $> Edmonton, Canada
> $>
> $> Old MacDonald had a farm E-I-E-I-O
> $> And on that farm he had a genome E-I-E-I-O
> $> With a SNP SNP here and a SNP SNP there,
> $> Here a SNP, there a SNP, everywhere a SNP SNP
> $> Old MacDonald had a farm E-I-E-I-O
> $

Sharx35

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Nov 3, 2009, 12:49:34 AM11/3/09
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"snowman" <x@x.x> wrote in message
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> Morris ShitsPatrick wrote:
>> Hahahahah...faith in the courts..there's one born every minute.
>>
>>
>
> And what would you suggest as the alternative? Perhaps we should all arm
> ourselves with 9mm Glocks and take care of justice ourselves? Idiot.


That being the case, Morris would soon be leaving us.

pandora

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Nov 3, 2009, 6:42:08 PM11/3/09
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"John Fleming" <nos...@sprynet.com> wrote in message
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> On Mon, 2 Nov 2009 19:02:17 -0700, while chained to a desk
> in the scriptorium "Morris ShitsPatrick" <M...@Mojo.com>
> wrote:
>
> > $Hahahahah...faith in the courts..there's one born every minute.
>
> While they are far from perfect, they are better than any of
> the alternatives.

Indeed. Perhaps he'd prefer dunking or trial by fire?

John Fleming

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Nov 3, 2009, 8:20:28 PM11/3/09
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On Tue, 3 Nov 2009 15:42:08 -0800, while chained to a desk
in the scriptorium "pandora" <pan...@peak.org> wrote:
> $"John Fleming" <nos...@sprynet.com> wrote in message
> $news:gb7ve5d7ft88tf89a...@4ax.com...
> $> On Mon, 2 Nov 2009 19:02:17 -0700, while chained to a desk

> $> in the scriptorium "Morris ShitsPatrick" <M...@Mojo.com>
> $> wrote:
> $>
> $> > $Hahahahah...faith in the courts..there's one born every minute.
> $>
> $> While they are far from perfect, they are better than any of
> $> the alternatives.
> $
> $Indeed. Perhaps he'd prefer dunking or trial by fire?

Trial by arms a la outrance would also work.

(That option wias still on the books in England up until
about 1983--when someone used it to get off on an otherwise
clear cut case. At that point, Parliament repealed the
option.)

> $> > $"John Fleming" <nos...@sprynet.com> wrote in message
> $> > $news:4f3ve5l9jnskudfdk...@4ax.com...
> $> > $> On Mon, 2 Nov 2009 16:17:10 -0700, while chained to a desk
> $> > $> in the scriptorium "Morris ShitsPatrick" <M...@Mojo.com>
> $> > $> wrote:
> $> > $>


> $> > $>> $He's a good Muslim boy and everyone knows those good Muslims don't

> $drink
> $> > $>> and
> $> > $>> $drive and don't do cocaine...what's wrong with those stupid cops?
> $It
> $> > $>> must be
> $> > $>> $some sort of racist setup or something.


> $> > $>
> $> > $> In the case of Rahim Jaffer, as in the case of anybody else

> $> > $> caught drinking and driving and/or using illicit drugs, I'll
> $> > $> let the courts decide whether he is innocent or guilty.


> $> > $>
> $> > $> --
> $> > $>
> $> > $> John Fleming

> $> > $> Edmonton, Canada


> $> > $>
> $> > $> Old MacDonald had a farm E-I-E-I-O

> $> > $> And on that farm he had a genome E-I-E-I-O
> $> > $> With a SNP SNP here and a SNP SNP there,
> $> > $> Here a SNP, there a SNP, everywhere a SNP SNP


> $> > $> Old MacDonald had a farm E-I-E-I-O

> $> > $

pandora

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Nov 3, 2009, 9:42:32 PM11/3/09
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"John Fleming" <nos...@sprynet.com> wrote in message
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> On Tue, 3 Nov 2009 15:42:08 -0800, while chained to a desk
> in the scriptorium "pandora" <pan...@peak.org> wrote:
> > $"John Fleming" <nos...@sprynet.com> wrote in message
> > $news:gb7ve5d7ft88tf89a...@4ax.com...
> > $> On Mon, 2 Nov 2009 19:02:17 -0700, while chained to a desk
> > $> in the scriptorium "Morris ShitsPatrick" <M...@Mojo.com>
> > $> wrote:
> > $>
> > $> > $Hahahahah...faith in the courts..there's one born every minute.
> > $>
> > $> While they are far from perfect, they are better than any of
> > $> the alternatives.
> > $
> > $Indeed. Perhaps he'd prefer dunking or trial by fire?
>
> Trial by arms a la outrance would also work.

Heh.

> (That option wias still on the books in England up until
> about 1983--when someone used it to get off on an otherwise
> clear cut case. At that point, Parliament repealed the
> option.)

It never ceases to amaze me the laws that are made and then just
ignored.

John Fleming

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Nov 3, 2009, 10:28:22 PM11/3/09
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On Tue, 3 Nov 2009 18:42:32 -0800, while chained to a desk

in the scriptorium "pandora" <pan...@peak.org> wrote:
> $"John Fleming" <nos...@sprynet.com> wrote in message
> $news:5jl1f59mo3nje5ddn...@4ax.com...
> $> On Tue, 3 Nov 2009 15:42:08 -0800, while chained to a desk

> $> in the scriptorium "pandora" <pan...@peak.org> wrote:
> $> > $"John Fleming" <nos...@sprynet.com> wrote in message
> $> > $news:gb7ve5d7ft88tf89a...@4ax.com...
> $> > $> On Mon, 2 Nov 2009 19:02:17 -0700, while chained to a desk

> $> > $> in the scriptorium "Morris ShitsPatrick" <M...@Mojo.com>
> $> > $> wrote:
> $> > $>
> $> > $> > $Hahahahah...faith in the courts..there's one born every minute.
> $> > $>
> $> > $> While they are far from perfect, they are better than any of
> $> > $> the alternatives.
> $> > $

> $> > $Indeed. Perhaps he'd prefer dunking or trial by fire?
> $>
> $> Trial by arms a la outrance would also work.
> $
> $Heh.
> $
> $> (That option wias still on the books in England up until
> $> about 1983--when someone used it to get off on an otherwise
> $> clear cut case. At that point, Parliament repealed the
> $> option.)
> $
> $It never ceases to amaze me the laws that are made and then just
> $ignored.

In this case, it's understandable.

The idea of two grown men going at each other with
broadswords for a few hours just to prove who was correct in
a matter of law kind of went by the wayside by the end of
the Middle Ages.

Besides, having a judge decide based on evidence meant you
stayed alive if you lost; trial by arms a la outrance was a
fight to the death.

Like many laws, it fell into disuse and nobody got around to
taking it off the books. That is, until some bright soul
decided to take advantage of it.

> $> > $> > $"John Fleming" <nos...@sprynet.com> wrote in message
> $> > $> > $news:4f3ve5l9jnskudfdk...@4ax.com...
> $> > $> > $> On Mon, 2 Nov 2009 16:17:10 -0700, while chained to a desk
> $> > $> > $> in the scriptorium "Morris ShitsPatrick" <M...@Mojo.com>


> $> > $> > $> wrote:
> $> > $> > $>
> $> > $> > $>> $He's a good Muslim boy and everyone knows those good Muslims

> $don't
> $> > $drink
> $> > $> > $>> and
> $> > $> > $>> $drive and don't do cocaine...what's wrong with those stupid
> $cops?
> $> > $It
> $> > $> > $>> must be
> $> > $> > $>> $some sort of racist setup or something.


> $> > $> > $>
> $> > $> > $> In the case of Rahim Jaffer, as in the case of anybody else

> $> > $> > $> caught drinking and driving and/or using illicit drugs, I'll
> $> > $> > $> let the courts decide whether he is innocent or guilty.

pandora

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"John Fleming" <nos...@sprynet.com> wrote in message
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True, but I would think that somewhere along the line that particular
law would have been rescinded long before it was.

> The idea of two grown men going at each other with
> broadswords for a few hours just to prove who was correct in
> a matter of law kind of went by the wayside by the end of
> the Middle Ages.

Heh. Silly but fun to watch. :-)

> Besides, having a judge decide based on evidence meant you
> stayed alive if you lost; trial by arms a la outrance was a
> fight to the death.

Yep. Of course GOD was on the side of the winner, eh? :-)

> Like many laws, it fell into disuse and nobody got around to
> taking it off the books. That is, until some bright soul
> decided to take advantage of it.

A smart aleck alright. Must have been a law student.

:-)


John Fleming

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On Wed, 4 Nov 2009 11:26:04 -0800, while chained to a desk

in the scriptorium "pandora" <pan...@peak.org> wrote:
> $"John Fleming" <nos...@sprynet.com> wrote in message
> $news:4hs1f5h1g087ngooc...@4ax.com...
> $> On Tue, 3 Nov 2009 18:42:32 -0800, while chained to a desk

> $> in the scriptorium "pandora" <pan...@peak.org> wrote:
> $> > $"John Fleming" <nos...@sprynet.com> wrote in message
> $> > $news:5jl1f59mo3nje5ddn...@4ax.com...
> $> > $> On Tue, 3 Nov 2009 15:42:08 -0800, while chained to a desk
> $> > $> in the scriptorium "pandora" <pan...@peak.org> wrote:
> $> > $> > $"John Fleming" <nos...@sprynet.com> wrote in message
> $> > $> > $news:gb7ve5d7ft88tf89a...@4ax.com...
> $> > $> > $> On Mon, 2 Nov 2009 19:02:17 -0700, while chained to a desk
> $> > $> > $> in the scriptorium "Morris ShitsPatrick" <M...@Mojo.com>

> $> > $> > $> wrote:
> $> > $> > $>
> $> > $> > $> > $Hahahahah...faith in the courts..there's one born every
> $minute.
> $> > $> > $>

> $> > $> > $> While they are far from perfect, they are better than any of
> $> > $> > $> the alternatives.

> $> > $> > $
> $> > $> > $Indeed. Perhaps he'd prefer dunking or trial by fire?
> $> > $>
> $> > $> Trial by arms a la outrance would also work.
> $> > $
> $> > $Heh.
> $> > $

> $> > $> (That option wias still on the books in England up until
> $> > $> about 1983--when someone used it to get off on an otherwise
> $> > $> clear cut case. At that point, Parliament repealed the
> $> > $> option.)
> $> > $

> $> > $It never ceases to amaze me the laws that are made and then just
> $> > $ignored.
> $>
> $> In this case, it's understandable.
> $
> $True, but I would think that somewhere along the line that particular
> $law would have been rescinded long before it was.

Lawmakers don't always take time to go through the books and
repeal laws that are no longer practical or applicable.

It's one of the things our city counsel did here in Edmonton
back in the 1990s. They went through the bylaws and got rid
of stuff that didn't serve a purpose any more--like
requiring merchants to provide a hitching post outside the
store so people could tie up their horses.

> $> The idea of two grown men going at each other with
> $> broadswords for a few hours just to prove who was correct in
> $> a matter of law kind of went by the wayside by the end of
> $> the Middle Ages.
> $
> $Heh. Silly but fun to watch. :-)

Especially when it is filmed for Hollywood.

> $> Besides, having a judge decide based on evidence meant you
> $> stayed alive if you lost; trial by arms a la outrance was a
> $> fight to the death.
> $
> $Yep. Of course GOD was on the side of the winner, eh? :-)

Of course. That's why he won.

That the winner might be a bigger, healthier, better trained
and more rested warrior had nothing to do with it.

> $> Like many laws, it fell into disuse and nobody got around to
> $> taking it off the books. That is, until some bright soul
> $> decided to take advantage of it.
> $
> $A smart aleck alright. Must have been a law student.

Probably was.

> $:-)
> $

pandora

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"John Fleming" <nos...@sprynet.com> wrote in message
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Heh. Might still be necessary round these here parts. :-)

> > $> The idea of two grown men going at each other with
> > $> broadswords for a few hours just to prove who was correct in
> > $> a matter of law kind of went by the wayside by the end of
> > $> the Middle Ages.
> > $
> > $Heh. Silly but fun to watch. :-)
>
> Especially when it is filmed for Hollywood.

Yeah. WHEN they do it right.

> > $> Besides, having a judge decide based on evidence meant you
> > $> stayed alive if you lost; trial by arms a la outrance was a
> > $> fight to the death.
> > $
> > $Yep. Of course GOD was on the side of the winner, eh? :-)
>
> Of course. That's why he won.

But of course.

> That the winner might be a bigger, healthier, better trained
> and more rested warrior had nothing to do with it.

Of course not! Why would you think that? :-)

> > $> Like many laws, it fell into disuse and nobody got around to
> > $> taking it off the books. That is, until some bright soul
> > $> decided to take advantage of it.
> > $
> > $A smart aleck alright. Must have been a law student.
>
> Probably was.

Heh.

Joe

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Nov 8, 2009, 10:59:01 AM11/8/09
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Are we even sure it was Jaffer that was arrested. Maybe it was
Matthew Johnston impersonating Rahim again. :-)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rahim_Jaffer

terry

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Nov 8, 2009, 11:16:05 AM11/8/09
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On the subject of out of date laws! The following was reported in the
press many years ago.

A law student attending an old (very old) British university came
across a Middle Ages regulation that required the university to
provide him with a minimum of 'two measures of short beer daily'. So
he sued for it.

However they then slapped him with a five guinea fine (A not
inconsiderable amount back in the Middkle Ages!) for not wearing his
broad sword while attending classes; as required by another university
regulation!

John Fleming

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On Sun, 8 Nov 2009 08:16:05 -0800 (PST), while chained to a
desk in the scriptorium terry <tsan...@nf.sympatico.ca>
wrote:

> $A law student attending an old (very old) British university came
> $across a Middle Ages regulation that required the university to
> $provide him with a minimum of 'two measures of short beer daily'. So
> $he sued for it.
> $
> $However they then slapped him with a five guinea fine (A not
> $inconsiderable amount back in the Middkle Ages!) for not wearing his
> $broad sword while attending classes; as required by another university
> $regulation!

LOL

I guess two can play at that game.

Joe

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Nov 11, 2009, 2:39:28 PM11/11/09
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I drove through Palgrave just last week. I was hoping they would have
a sign up commemorating the arrest. No sign, things looked pretty
quiet.
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