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Wrangler

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Jul 31, 1999, 3:00:00 AM7/31/99
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I have yet to see such a ugly dream home.I dont how this came into
fashion but everything is gross about it.All the switch plates are
stainless steel,the appliances are all stainless steel.The floor is like
a slate rough sand ceramic tile.The wall are painted so ugly.Im not sure
who the lions club had as an interior decorator but my personal opinion
is its YUKKY!
However mind you I did spend $5 for a ticket.I guess if I win for $5
its worth it.I realize the stainless steel stuff is expensive it doesnt
belong in a house.You would expect stainless steel at work for fire
codes but a show home.I guess the home is meant to be modern but I would
prefer reg ceramic or lino,all white walls and white appliances with
beautiful light oak cabinets.
We want a home to look like a home not a food service industry.
Does anyone know where they will post the winners?

Wellington Bubber Roots

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Aug 1, 1999, 3:00:00 AM8/1/99
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[Original message is below]

I did not go into the Dream Home this year, although there are always plenty
of lineups each year to get into it. I usually am not impressed by the homes
offered, but if I won it, I'd take it and probably sell. I say so because
the lot is usually in St. Albert somewheres and I'd much rather be in
Edmonton where I'm closer to the action and can find my way around. I think
the Gold Brick and Food For Life offer much more bang for the buck than the
Dream Home does, but I have been known to buy a ticket on the home in the
past.

In any event, if you have either your accomodations (except for property
taxes, of course) or your food paid for, that's a lot of the battle solved
right there. Especially if you have a family (something I don't desire
myself).

The winners are usually found in the newspaper as always, but I don't know
about finding out on the web.

BTW: I always enjoy going to the RCMP tent at Klondike Days. This year, it
was just as I remembered it.


Good luck,
Mark

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sh...@ecn.ab.ca

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Aug 1, 1999, 3:00:00 AM8/1/99
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Wrangler (per...@oanet.com) wrote:
: I have yet to see such a ugly dream home.I dont how this came into

: fashion but everything is gross about it.All the switch plates are
: stainless steel,the appliances are all stainless steel.The floor is like
: a slate rough sand ceramic tile.The wall are painted so ugly.Im not sure
: who the lions club had as an interior decorator but my personal opinion
: is its YUKKY!

Your taste in houses is ALSO up your ass. WHY would one want cheap plastic
switch plates? Ceramic tile is far, far preferable to lino. It has a
lifespan TEN times that of vinyl. Sand colour is an excellent choice, as
it masks imperfections/flaws/stains.

: However mind you I did spend $5 for a ticket.I guess if I win for $5


: its worth it.I realize the stainless steel stuff is expensive it doesnt
: belong in a house.You would expect stainless steel at work for fire
: codes but a show home.I guess the home is meant to be modern but I would
: prefer reg ceramic or lino,all white walls and white appliances with
: beautiful light oak cabinets.

All white walls? B__O__R__I__N__G!!! with a capital T. All white stuff
reminds me of a hospital. Light oak cabinets are okay, though.

: We want a home to look like a home not a food service industry.

: Does anyone know where they will post the winners?

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Eagle-1

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Aug 1, 1999, 3:00:00 AM8/1/99
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Stainless steel appliance rule. If I had the money I would buy Stainless
steel. They don't rust and they look really classy.

Wrangler wrote:
>
> I have yet to see such a ugly dream home.I dont how this came into
> fashion but everything is gross about it.All the switch plates are
> stainless steel,the appliances are all stainless steel.The floor is like
> a slate rough sand ceramic tile.The wall are painted so ugly.Im not sure
> who the lions club had as an interior decorator but my personal opinion
> is its YUKKY!

> However mind you I did spend $5 for a ticket.I guess if I win for $5
> its worth it.I realize the stainless steel stuff is expensive it doesnt
> belong in a house.You would expect stainless steel at work for fire
> codes but a show home.I guess the home is meant to be modern but I would
> prefer reg ceramic or lino,all white walls and white appliances with
> beautiful light oak cabinets.

Kat...

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Aug 1, 1999, 3:00:00 AM8/1/99
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Eagle-1 wrote:

> Wrangler wrote:

> Stainless steel appliance rule. If I had the money I would buy
> Stainless steel. They don't rust and they look really classy.

They are much easier to keep clean too...

Kat...

My websites: <http://tor-pw1.netcom.ca/~imakat2/index.html>

Eagle-1

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Aug 1, 1999, 3:00:00 AM8/1/99
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Ask your mom she would know

sh...@ecn.ab.ca wrote:
>
> Kat... (Kat_So...@netcom.ca) wrote:


> : Eagle-1 wrote:
> : > Wrangler wrote:
> :
> : > Stainless steel appliance rule. If I had the money I would buy
> : > Stainless steel. They don't rust and they look really classy.
>
> : They are much easier to keep clean too...
>
> : Kat...
>

> I wonder if there are stainless steel vibrators?
>
> : My websites: <http://tor-pw1.netcom.ca/~imakat2/index.html>
>
> --
>

sh...@ecn.ab.ca

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Kat...

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sh...@ecn.ab.ca wrote:

> Kat... wrote:
> : Eagle-1 wrote:
> : > Wrangler wrote:
> : > Stainless steel appliance rule. If I had the money I would buy
> : > Stainless steel. They don't rust and they look really classy.

> : They are much easier to keep clean too...
> : Kat...

> I wonder if there are stainless steel vibrators?

> Sharx

Well - Sharx you might want to avoid bending over if there are...

Kat...

Colin Bigam

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I coulda sworn I heard sh...@ecn.ab.ca say...

>I wonder if there are stainless steel vibrators?

Yeah, you probably do. In fact, you probably spend HOURS pondering
this very question.

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Melanie Piper

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Aug 9, 1999, 3:00:00 AM8/9/99
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sh...@ecn.ab.ca wrote:
> WHY would one want cheap plastic switch plates?

Because they are easier to clean and don't show every
fingerprint. Our house came with all shiny metal ("brass")
switchplates and outlet covers. I hate metal stuff in my home,
and these show every fingerprint and need cleaning all the
time. To clean them, I don't just have to wipe them with my
cleaning solution, I then have to "dry" them with a towel or
rag. Plastic I just wipe with cleaning solution and they dry
themselves just fine. Plastic get noticably dirty after a few
weeks of heavy use; "brass" or any kind of metal I've
seen/lived with needs cleaning like *daily* if used at all.
Plastic also doesn't corrode. Our supposedly not-cheap "brass"
ones are starting to corrode at the edges; I just had them all
off because of painting and only about half a dozen have no
corrosion. I guess you're supposed to replace them every few
years or something.

Except for the corrosion part, I find stainless steel exactly
the same to deal with--a real PITA to keep looking "good".


>Ceramic tile is far, far preferable to lino. It has a lifespan TEN times that of >vinyl.

Matter of priorities and personal preference. If you can put
underfloor heating grids in before the tile, I think ceramic is
great. If you can't, it's bloody cold on the feet even with
socks or slippers on. Anything dropped on ceramic is more
likely to break or be damaged than if dropped on vinyl. And if
you choose ceramic, you'd better be sure you love the look of
it, because it's pretty much going to be there forever--no
changing your color scheme or anything like that, unless you
have nowhere else to spend a lot of money.

>Sand colour is an excellent choice, as
> it masks imperfections/flaws/stains.

If it's the unsealed ceramic, not the shiny "sealed"
stuff--nope, not in my experience. Drop a little cooking oil
on it, for example, and that spot turns almost black, in high
contrast to the sand color. And almost impossible to get the
stain out completely without damaging the tile. IME, any
light-colored unsealed ceramic all has that problem. Really
dark-colored ceramic shows "water spots" as whitish. Black is
the only "color" that never darkens from stains, but the one
person I know who has black says it's a pain because when you
wash it or any water gets on it, you have to dry it off right
away with a towel to avoid the "water spots"; if you haven't
time to do it immediately, then you have to wash it with
vinegar solution.

Now, the "sealed" ceramics are a different story--people I know
who have those say they are a dream to keep clean (but I notice
these particular people are forever grabbing a rag and wiping
up any sign of dirt instantly, so I wonder how they'd be for
anyone who didn't want to do that).

> : However mind you I did spend $5 for a ticket.I guess if I win for $5


> : its worth it.I realize the stainless steel stuff is expensive it doesnt
> : belong in a house.You would expect stainless steel at work for fire
> : codes but a show home.I guess the home is meant to be modern but I would
> : prefer reg ceramic or lino,all white walls and white appliances with
> : beautiful light oak cabinets.
>

> All white walls? B__O__R__I__N__G!!! with a capital T. All white stuff
> reminds me of a hospital. Light oak cabinets are okay, though.

Gee, Sharx, long time since you've been inside a hospital,
eh?? Good for you.
Last time I was in a hospital that was white inside was in the
early 1960s, and it was being re-done in pinks, peaches, light
blues and light greens, because white had been found less
desirable for that purpose.

You may be bored by white walls; I like them. I can showcase
anything in any color or pattern without having to repaint,
completely change everything except the walls and it "goes"
without repainting. I esp like how the warmth of good wood
stands out against white. And guess what...we're getting ready
to sell our house and the real estate people tell us the best
"color" for selling is Antique White. They said a home "shows
best" if the main areas are freshly painted in that, but not to
bother repainting bedrooms, bathrooms, etc., because people
these days will want to do their own thing with wall colors and
textures, etc. But "it's good that they are white, because
whatever the people want to do, they won't have some unwanted
color or texture to remove or cover up".

> : We want a home to look like a home not a food service industry.

So do we at our house. And to poke a little fun at Sharx,
stainless steel reminds *me* of a hospital! When I worked in
hospitals, everything in their kitchens was stainless steel and
had to be washed and polished at the end of *each shift* so the
kitchen would be and look clean for the incoming staff. I
remember popping into the kitchen an hour before the end of
shift for their staff, and someone was always already working
on cleaning and polishing all the stainless steel, and would
kinda glare at anyone who was still doing other stuff because
every time they touched anything, she'd have to go back and
re-do that part of the stainless.

Melanie

sh...@ecn.ab.ca

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Aug 10, 1999, 3:00:00 AM8/10/99
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Melanie Piper (mpi...@telusplanet.net) wrote:

: sh...@ecn.ab.ca wrote:
: > WHY would one want cheap plastic switch plates?

: Because they are easier to clean and don't show every
: fingerprint. Our house came with all shiny metal ("brass")
: switchplates and outlet covers. I hate metal stuff in my home,
: and these show every fingerprint and need cleaning all the
: time. To clean them, I don't just have to wipe them with my
: cleaning solution, I then have to "dry" them with a towel or
: rag. Plastic I just wipe with cleaning solution and they dry
: themselves just fine. Plastic get noticably dirty after a few
: weeks of heavy use; "brass" or any kind of metal I've
: seen/lived with needs cleaning like *daily* if used at all.
: Plastic also doesn't corrode. Our supposedly not-cheap "brass"
: ones are starting to corrode at the edges; I just had them all
: off because of painting and only about half a dozen have no
: corrosion. I guess you're supposed to replace them every few
: years or something.

: Except for the corrosion part, I find stainless steel exactly
: the same to deal with--a real PITA to keep looking "good".

I don't like brass fixtures either, but for different reasons. I find
brass to be garish...and commonplace. I prefer brushed copper hinges,
locks etc..(the colour, of course, underneath I suspect that they are all
steel). Upstairs we use white Decora plastic covers. In the basement and
in the garage, where there is rougher usage, we have stainless
outlet/switch Decora covers. The exterior of Sharx Manor features GFI
outlets, with heavy plastic covers.

:
: >Ceramic tile is far, far preferable to lino. It has a lifespan TEN times that of >vinyl.

: Matter of priorities and personal preference. If you can put
: underfloor heating grids in before the tile, I think ceramic is
: great. If you can't, it's bloody cold on the feet even with
: socks or slippers on. Anything dropped on ceramic is more
: likely to break or be damaged than if dropped on vinyl. And if
: you choose ceramic, you'd better be sure you love the look of
: it, because it's pretty much going to be there forever--no
: changing your color scheme or anything like that, unless you
: have nowhere else to spend a lot of money.

Granted, except in the main bath where we have black slate, the kitchen
and nook area here have old lino type covering. Yuck. I still dream of
ceramic. Ceramic tile seems so much more natural than vinyl/lino.

: >Sand colour is an excellent choice, as
: > it masks imperfections/flaws/stains.

: If it's the unsealed ceramic, not the shiny "sealed"
: stuff--nope, not in my experience. Drop a little cooking oil
: on it, for example, and that spot turns almost black, in high
: contrast to the sand color. And almost impossible to get the
: stain out completely without damaging the tile. IME, any
: light-colored unsealed ceramic all has that problem. Really
: dark-colored ceramic shows "water spots" as whitish. Black is
: the only "color" that never darkens from stains, but the one
: person I know who has black says it's a pain because when you
: wash it or any water gets on it, you have to dry it off right
: away with a towel to avoid the "water spots"; if you haven't
: time to do it immediately, then you have to wash it with
: vinegar solution.

That's the problem we have with the black slate. I never have gotten
around to sealing it. It will HAVE to be down. "Water" spots, especially
in front of the toilet, are a royal apin.

: Now, the "sealed" ceramics are a different story--people I know


: who have those say they are a dream to keep clean (but I notice
: these particular people are forever grabbing a rag and wiping
: up any sign of dirt instantly, so I wonder how they'd be for
: anyone who didn't want to do that).

I would go for the sealed type. What about Corian or granite counter tops?

: > : However mind you I did spend $5 for a ticket.I guess if I win for $5


: > : its worth it.I realize the stainless steel stuff is expensive it doesnt
: > : belong in a house.You would expect stainless steel at work for fire
: > : codes but a show home.I guess the home is meant to be modern but I would
: > : prefer reg ceramic or lino,all white walls and white appliances with
: > : beautiful light oak cabinets.
: >
: > All white walls? B__O__R__I__N__G!!! with a capital T. All white stuff
: > reminds me of a hospital. Light oak cabinets are okay, though.

: Gee, Sharx, long time since you've been inside a hospital,
: eh?? Good for you.
: Last time I was in a hospital that was white inside was in the
: early 1960s, and it was being re-done in pinks, peaches, light
: blues and light greens, because white had been found less
: desirable for that purpose.

Yeah, I should know better. I have seen the pastels.

: You may be bored by white walls; I like them. I can showcase


: anything in any color or pattern without having to repaint,
: completely change everything except the walls and it "goes"
: without repainting. I esp like how the warmth of good wood
: stands out against white. And guess what...we're getting ready
: to sell our house and the real estate people tell us the best
: "color" for selling is Antique White. They said a home "shows
: best" if the main areas are freshly painted in that, but not to
: bother repainting bedrooms, bathrooms, etc., because people
: these days will want to do their own thing with wall colors and
: textures, etc. But "it's good that they are white, because
: whatever the people want to do, they won't have some unwanted
: color or texture to remove or cover up".

I just go f**king ballistic when I hear this excuse given for having white
walls. Foor CH**T's sake, we have already lived in this house for 12
years, will probably live here for who knows how many more years, F**k it,
when it comes time to sell, I'll throw a thou at the painters and tell
them it go for it....IF the realtor indicates that the colour is holding
up a particular deal. In the mean time, we enjoy our dark blue living room
walls. It is a HUGE room: the darker colour makes it more cozy. Our master
bedroom has 2 Chinese red walls. Den and spare bedroom are in various hues
of orange and rose--darker trim around the ceiling edge.
Of course, if one is constantly moving, white may be the most practical.
We design for OURSELVES, we don't give a rat's ass what the relatives,
visitors or anyone else thinks. Capiche?

:
: > : We want a home to look like a home not a food service industry.

: So do we at our house. And to poke a little fun at Sharx,
: stainless steel reminds *me* of a hospital! When I worked in
: hospitals, everything in their kitchens was stainless steel and
: had to be washed and polished at the end of *each shift* so the
: kitchen would be and look clean for the incoming staff. I
: remember popping into the kitchen an hour before the end of
: shift for their staff, and someone was always already working
: on cleaning and polishing all the stainless steel, and would
: kinda glare at anyone who was still doing other stuff because
: every time they touched anything, she'd have to go back and
: re-do that part of the stainless.

: Melanie

Years ago I worked at a local Dairy. Talk about scads of stainless to
clean. As I mentioned above, the stainless coverplates are in locations
where there is rougher usage.


Later..Melanie


David


Colin Bigam

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>I would go for the sealed type. What about Corian or granite counter tops?

Corian! Corian Corian Corian! :-)

I like this stuff. It looks great, wears well, grips well when wet,
(i.e. if you've got wet hands and/or food on it, it's not too
slippery), and if it gets nicked, you can just sand it down.

Colin

Melanie Piper

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sh...@ecn.ab.ca wrote:
> I don't like brass fixtures either, but for different reasons. I find
> brass to be garish...and commonplace.

Yes. Besides just not liking *metal* stuff in my home where
something doesn't need to be metal, the brass was a trend that
passed quite some time ago. I hate "trendy". People go out
and spend often more dollars for whatever's trendy today, but
the trend is over in a year or three and after that the stuff
"dates" your home. Should you then replace it, its resale
value is about zip.

Right now I'm annoyed because so much stuff for the home comes
in limited selection because half the display space is taken up
by large amounts of stuff in Forest Green. A while back it was
stuff in that greyish blue, which is now definitely "out". I
want a better choice so I can choose what I *like*, not what
someone somewhere decides is the latest trend. I'll likely
have to special-order replacement mini-blinds and verticals
because everywhere I've looked, most of the stock they have is
either white or Forest Green, with the next-most-available
color being peach, from two trends ago.

> I prefer brushed copper hinges,
> locks etc..(the colour, of course, underneath I suspect that they are all
> steel). Upstairs we use white Decora plastic covers. In the basement and
> in the garage, where there is rougher usage, we have stainless
> outlet/switch Decora covers. The exterior of Sharx Manor features GFI
> outlets, with heavy plastic covers.

What are those exterior ones--could you explain further? What
is GFI? Advantages?
Costs?

There are also a lot of "brass" outdoor fittings on this house,
all of it now in some degree of corrosion or mess. The locks
and handles and knocker on the front door are a real eyesore
(not corroded, they seem to be real solid brass, but half the
lacquer is worn off), and the "brass" mailbox was replaced
about a year ago and the new one is already a mess of
corrosion--and no, it wasn't a cheap one.

> : >Ceramic tile is far, far preferable to lino. It has a lifespan TEN times that of >vinyl.

Have to add to my earlier comments that you're absolutely right
about the difference in durability. We've been very careful
with our vinyl that was installed in 1995, but are having
someone in to do repairs today. Drop a cigarette on the vinyl
and it's instant melt/burn no matter how fast you grab up the
cigarette. We also have repairs to be done where painters
dragged a ladder (you don't drag anything across vinyl) and
where a metal in-floor heating vent got too hot and the
surrounding vinyl discolored from the heat. I don't think any
of those problems apply if you get good ceramic tile. I
console myself by remembering that all the repairs we need over
the next twenty years with the vinyl likely won't add up to as
much as the extra it would have cost us to do ceramic tile, and
Sears does repairs that are undetectable. I was smart enough
to grab all the leftover pieces of vinyl they were going to
throw out at initial installation so we'd have some for future
repairs. Good thing I did because that particular pattern is
no longer available. Minor dings and cigarette burns they can
repair without replacement pieces, but where the heat was will
need a fair-sized patch.

Oh, by the way, our house also had "brass"-finish metal
in-floor heating vents and most of them had reached some level
of corrosion too. I replaced them with the new "plastic"
kind--cheaper than metal, don't heat up and conduct heat as
much as metal so they're better to use where we have vinyl
floors, and *much* easier to install and remove and clean. I
esp appreciate that there are no sharp edges; every time I
cleaned the metal ones I'd end up getting at least one slice
out of my hands somewhere.

> Granted, except in the main bath where we have black slate, the kitchen
> and nook area here have old lino type covering. Yuck. I still dream of
> ceramic. Ceramic tile seems so much more natural than vinyl/lino.

(snip)

I love the look of the unsealed non-shiny ceramic tile, and
used to think it had to be easy-care. I'd seen it used so
often in entryways to businesses and places like swimming pool
shower areas, etc., where you'd think that easy care and
cleaning would be a major factor. But the people I know who
have it in their homes mostly say things like "Yeah, well they
have someone who's paid to clean it every day!" The people who
have the sealed, shiny type say *that* is easy-care, but as I
said, I notice them leaping to wipe up every bit of dirt as it
appears, so I wonder...

> I would go for the sealed type. What about Corian or granite counter tops?

I've heard nothing but raves about Corian. I heard some time
ago that their licence or patent or whatever was about to
expire and that that should create some competition that might
bring the prices down. Haven't checked prices since then,
anyone know if that happened??? It sounds to me like Corian is
the be-all and end-all for countertops if you can afford it.
But it too comes with instructions you'd better follow. Anyone
know more about Corian??

About granite I've heard mixed reports. I think it depends a
lot on what your expectations are/were. Some people think
"stone" and think "stone" is indestructible. But pieces can be
broken off, and stone can chip and scratch.
Seems sad to me that someone could think they can use a granite
countertop as a cutting board and not get scratches. Didn't
they notice that when they used a sharpening "stone" to sharpen
those same knives, the sharpening stone ended up all whitish
and covered in scratches?? And I wonder what cutting things
right on the granite did to those knives.

Anyway, even people who were careful with their granite ended
up with some very-visible white scratches and mars after only a
fairly short time. One tried using an oil to hide the
scratches. Another used an acrylic floor polish, but that made
the granite shiny when it was supposed to be "matte" and she
had to use the stuff everywhere so it would all match. With
either oil or polish, you have to do all of it and re-do it
from time to time. Oh, and spill oil or something containing
oil (like mayonnaise) on a matte-finish stone and you get the
same effect as with oil on unsealed ceramic tile--unless it's
black, there's a very visible dark stain that's almost
impossible to remove. Easiest answer is to oil or polish the
whole thing and live with it, but it'll be a much darker color
than you started with. Don't know if there are professionals
in Edmonton who do any kind of granite repair, or what they'd
charge if there are.

All that I've said about granite is second-hand info, and may
not apply to all granites or "granite" products. I try to
remember that often as time passes manufacturers *do* sometimes
develop newer versions of things that solve some of the
problems of earlier versions.

> : You may be bored by white walls; I like them. I can showcase
> : anything in any color or pattern without having to repaint,
> : completely change everything except the walls and it "goes"
> : without repainting. I esp like how the warmth of good wood
> : stands out against white. And guess what...we're getting ready
> : to sell our house and the real estate people tell us the best
> : "color" for selling is Antique White. They said a home "shows
> : best" if the main areas are freshly painted in that, but not to
> : bother repainting bedrooms, bathrooms, etc., because people
> : these days will want to do their own thing with wall colors and
> : textures, etc. But "it's good that they are white, because
> : whatever the people want to do, they won't have some unwanted
> : color or texture to remove or cover up".
>
> I just go f**king ballistic when I hear this excuse given for having white
> walls.

Hey, I didn't say that's *why* we have white walls, I said it
was a happy coincidence that our white walls will apparently
help us sell. I'm the same as you--I like what I like and I
figure our home is for *us*. I like the white, it's my
preference. I also don't keep window-coverings closed to keep
the sun from fading carpets and area rugs and upholstered
furniture out of consideration for whoever might have them
after us, etc., etc. I'm *agreeing* with you on that kind of
thing, just saying I *like* white and don't agree that it's
"boring".



Foor CH**T's sake, we have already lived in this house for 12
> years, will probably live here for who knows how many more years, F**k it,
> when it comes time to sell, I'll throw a thou at the painters and tell
> them it go for it....IF the realtor indicates that the colour is holding
> up a particular deal.

Um...if you want a decent paint job, maybe better check out
your perception of prices for having someone else do the
painting. I did a lot of "homework" and yes, if I wanted a
crappy job and cheap paint, we could have had our painting done
for a thousand or a little less (and this was only the ceilings
and the front half of the interior of the house, and painting
white over white, which takes less paint and labor).

But I checked out the companies offering those lower prices and
it really seems you get what you pay for. Want to take *three*
days off work to be there for the painters, because they phone
twice at the last minute to tell you they "can't make that date
after all"? Want all your light switches and electrical
outlets painted over too, even though *you* removed all the
covers to make it easy for them to paint only what you wanted
them to? Know how to remove paint from your natural-wood
finish kitchen cabinets that they didn't protect from splatters
and painted half-an-inch in from the wall? Want to spend the
next two months trying to get paint out of your carpets? Want
to argue with someone when they say the estimate was "only an
estimate" and their final price is hundreds of dollars more
than they quoted before they did the work?? Etc., etc.

In the mean time, we enjoy our dark blue living room
> walls. It is a HUGE room: the darker colour makes it more cozy. Our master
> bedroom has 2 Chinese red walls. Den and spare bedroom are in various hues
> of orange and rose--darker trim around the ceiling edge.
> Of course, if one is constantly moving, white may be the most practical.
> We design for OURSELVES, we don't give a rat's ass what the relatives,
> visitors or anyone else thinks. Capiche?

(snip)

Don't see why you got upset because you and I have different
tastes. I didn't criticize; you strongly pronounced white
"boring" and I said I like white.


> Years ago I worked at a local Dairy. Talk about scads of stainless to
> clean. As I mentioned above, the stainless coverplates are in locations
> where there is rougher usage.

So were you required to clean the stainless at the dairy? What
did you think about how much work it took to keep it clean and
looking good? How often did it have to be cleaned?

I still hear people talk about stainless steel as being "much
easier to clean" and I keep wondering what they are comparing
to. I figure if they went from finishes available fifteen or
twenty years ago to stainless, then maybe yes the stainless
would be easier to keep. But compared to some other finishes
available *now*, stainless would be my last choice.

> David

Hi, David! So Sharx does have a "real name"!!

Melanie

Janice

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sh...@ecn.ab.ca wrote:

>
>
> Years ago I worked at a local Dairy. Talk about scads of stainless to
> clean. As I mentioned above, the stainless coverplates are in locations
> where there is rougher usage.
>
> Later..Melanie
>
> David
>

Speaking of Switchplates, does anyone know where I can find Pewter ones in Edmonton?? I've
tried some small shops around Whyte Avenue to no avail. If anyone has any ideas I would
appreciate the help.

Thanks


Janice

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Thanks Sharx, perhaps we will try that this weekend or I'll call them and ask.

sh...@ecn.ab.ca wrote:

> Janice (gi...@writeme.com) wrote:
>
> : Speaking of Switchplates, does anyone know where I can find Pewter ones in Edmonton?? I've


> : tried some small shops around Whyte Avenue to no avail. If anyone has any ideas I would
> : appreciate the help.
>
> : Thanks
>

> Janice, have your tried calling Park Lighting? Else, try the electrical
> suppliers in the Yellow Pages.
> --
>


sh...@ecn.ab.ca

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Melanie Piper (mpi...@telusplanet.net) wrote:

GFI is short for Ground Fault Interrupt. Means that the instant a short to
ground is detected the current is cut to the outlet. They are "code" now
in places like bathrooms and other moist area. For all I know they are
also code for outdoor plugs and some areas of basements. Yeah, they are
pricey..check your friendly hardware store. I believe that they are a damn
good idea. At a greater price, one can replace the breakers in your main
panel with GFI breakers. Not a bad idea if young children are resident.


: There are also a lot of "brass" outdoor fittings on this house,

: Melanie

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sh...@ecn.ab.ca

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Janice (gi...@writeme.com) wrote:


: sh...@ecn.ab.ca wrote:

: >
: >
: > Years ago I worked at a local Dairy. Talk about scads of stainless to


: > clean. As I mentioned above, the stainless coverplates are in locations
: > where there is rougher usage.
: >
: > Later..Melanie
: >
: > David

: >

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