Empty Child/The Doctor Damnces
Blink
Boomtown
Girl in the Fireplace
42
Fires of Pompeii
End of Time
Turn Right
Human Nature/Family of Blood
Lows:
Love and monsters
Dalek
Midnight
Waters of MArs
Your opinions please.
And I have not forgotten JOhn Fleming.
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Bringing Doctor Who back to our TV screens.
Torchwood SO
Sarah Jane Adventures (MILF!)
> Lows:
Writing long drawn out stories that could be condensed in to half the time, and
not featuring enough topless women in his programmes.
> Your opinions please.
The NYR should never have got rid of Jagr!
LOL!
>> Your opinions please.
>
>The NYR should never have got rid of Jagr!
>
>
<VBG>
> $Sarah Jane Adventures (MILF!)
MILF - Mother I'd Like to F***.
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Edmonton, Canada
Old MacDonald had a farm E-I-E-I-O
And on that farm he had a genome E-I-E-I-O
With a SNP SNP here and a SNP SNP there,
Here a SNP, there a SNP, everywhere a SNP SNP
Old MacDonald had a farm E-I-E-I-O
> Highs:
>
> Empty Child/The Doctor Damnces
> Blink
> Boomtown
> Girl in the Fireplace
> 42
> Fires of Pompeii
> End of Time
> Turn Right
> Human Nature/Family of Blood
Some of these episode I'm not exactly keen on but I largely
agree that this list of episodes had some good ideas.
> Lows:
>
Rose Tyler[1].
Constantly talking about the significance of the Doctor.
Abuse of cheesy computer graphics.
Constantly wiping out and bringing back the Daleks.
Wiping out the other Time Lords.
Gutting the TARDIS.
Allowing cheesy gags to distract from the serious elements
of the show.
Severe over dramatisation of every single plot element.
Hmm, now that I think about it RTD could write lyrics for
SpinalTap:
"We are the guests who have stayed too long
We are the end of the endless song
We send our hearts into the night
Soaring to heaven
And will out hearts still beat on
Or will they Break Like The Wind
Ooh, Break Like The Wind."
[1] How often does she do something other than either complain
or sit there looking like a small dog?
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Quote of the login:
One of the most overlooked advantages to computers is... If they do foul up,
there's no law against whacking them around a little. -- Joe Martin
>Highs:
Eccleston
Tennant/Noble/Cribbins
Derek Jacobi (Best Master Ever)
John Simm
Simon Callow
Jackie
Mickey
Lynda Wiv a Wy
Dalek
Empty Child/Doctor Dances
Girl in the Fireplace
Utopia/Sound of Drums/Last of the Time Lords
Fires of Pompeii
Midnight/Turn Left/Stolen Earth/Journey's End
The End of Time
Honourable Mention in view of substantial improvements but definately
Not on the A list
Billie Piper
>Lows:
Barrowman
Aliens of London/WW3
Tooth and Claw
Impossible Planet/Satan Pit
Fear Her
Shakespeare Code
Gridlock
Human Nature/Family of Blood
Partners in Crime
Waters of Mars
Bringing the series back.
Lows:
Writing the episodes.
Richard
>Highs:
>
>Bringing the series back.
>
>Lows:
>
>Writing the episodes.
>
I'd've agreed once over - but looking back he's penned some of my
favourites. To get stories like Utopia/Drums/Time Lords, Midnight/Turn
Left/Stolen Earth/Journey's End, and End of Time, it was worth wading
through Partners-Aliens-Gridlock-Toothless Claw etc.
The Grand
Lows:
Mine All Mine
Casting - RTD was very good at casting generally, with only a very few
slips (Kylie), but my standouts are, roughly in order:
Catherine Tate
Derek Jacobi (Utopia)
Bernard Cribbens
Christopher Eccleston (not one RTD can take credit for - Eccles asked
for the part)
David Tennant
Penelope Wilton as Queen Victoria (Tooth & Claw)
Simon Callow as Charles Dickens (The Unquiet Dead)
Julian Leach as Davros (The Stolen Earth/Journey's End)
John Simm (very badly served by both his stories, but his performances
were very good)
Episodes (a surprising number actually RTD-penned):
Midnight
Human Nature/The Family of Blood
Utopia
The Empty Child/The Doctor Dances
Dalek
Turn Left
Tooth and Claw
Generally:
Making more extensive use of varied historical, present and future
settings than any post-Hartnell era.
Striking a good balance between new and returning monsters, and strong
portrayals of Daleks, Davros, the Master and the Sontarans.
Generating not only very strong ratings and previously unheard-of
critical acclaim for Dr Who, but the Dr Who Prom and the idea of
Christmas specials - compared with what we got as kids, I'm positively
envious of the younger band of the show's 'target audience' these
days.
Lows:
Pretty much only episodes in this category; I agree that RTD's
tendency to go massively over the top got boring, but that's mostly
reflected in my choice of episodes - from worst to, for want of a
better term, not quite so bad:
Fear Her
The Idiot's Lantern
The End of Time Part II
Doomsday
Bad Wolf
42
The Girl in the Fireplace
Boomtown
Phil
And come to that, Aliens wasn't that bad and Partners was good for the
younger kids. I am suddenly reminded of two lows I'd blocked out of my
memory, though (Gridlock and New Earth).
Phil
Revising my Lows list:
Fear Her
New Earth
The Idiot's Lantern
The End of Time Part II
Gridlock
Doomsday
Bad Wolf
42
The Girl in the Fireplace
Boomtown
If I were to balance that by adding to the highs, I'd add Blink,
Silence in the Library (but not Forest of the Dead) and Impossible
Planet/Satan Pit, but these all strike me as good stories that fall
outside what I'd consider a classic.
Phil
Join the queue buddy...
In terms of actors/characters. Love the point of view
>
>Dalek
I will disagreed with you there.
>Empty Child/Doctor Dances
>Girl in the Fireplace
Agreed!
>Utopia/Sound of Drums/Last of the Time Lords
>Fires of Pompeii
>Midnight/Turn Left/Stolen Earth/Journey's End
RTD finale for you.
>The End of Time
Agreed.
>
>Honourable Mention in view of substantial improvements but definately
>Not on the A list
>
>Billie Piper
>
>>Lows:
>
>Barrowman
>
>Aliens of London/WW3
>Tooth and Claw
>Impossible Planet/Satan Pit
>Fear Her
I liked Fear Her after the abominable Love & Monsters.
>Shakespeare Code
>Gridlock
>Human Nature/Family of Blood
>Partners in Crime
>Waters of Mars
>
>
>>
>>Your opinions please.
>>
>>And I have not forgotten JOhn Fleming.
And I still have not forgetten John Fleming.
Girl in the Fireplace as a low. That is rare.
Well any one the DW Fan Web Forums doing this?
We got the idea and I dragged you into a thread John Fl.
Success!!!!!!
Let John go first.
Congratulations on remembering that if you keep your goals really small and
really simple you will always feel like a success. Glad to see the lessons
you learned riding the "special" bus are still with you.
(whose we?)
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>Generally:
>
>Making more extensive use of varied historical, present and future
>settings than any post-Hartnell era.
The one thing I'd like to see are is fewer human-centric stories. Why
not one where the Doctor helps an Ood/Judoon/other alien space ship
crew, instead of always landing on a human ship as in Impossible
Planet/42.
--
'Donegal: Up Here It's Different'
� F�achad�ir
Planet of the Dead came closer than most - the humans on the bus were
hardly seen, with most of the action on the planet about the Doctor
and Christina working with the Tritovores. It could be done more
readily (and less embarrassingly) than Web Planet these days, so it
might be nice on occasion.
Phil
Well most people on the 200 ended up tense.
That's fair.
Dalek
TEC/TDD
School Reunion
GITFP
Blink
Utopia
Silence in the Library/Forest of the Dead
The End of Time
>
> Lows:
>
FEAR HER!
Using the programme to encourage kids to become gay.
> Love and monsters
> Dalek
> Midnight
> Waters of MArs
>
>
> Your opinions please.
>
> And I have not forgotten JOhn Fleming.
>
Blink (best ep ever IMHO)
Derek Jacobi as the Master
Utopia/Sound of Drums/Last of eth Time Lords story arc
Dalek
Empty Child/Doctor Dances
Next
School Reunion
"Are you my mummy" in the Poison Sky
Silence in the Library/Forest of the Dead
Turn Left
"Who needs atom clamps! I have a funny robot!"
"I'm the Doctor and you're in the biggest library in the universe. Look me
up."
Lows:
Love and Monsters (worst ep ever IMHO)
Daleks in Manhattan/Evolution of the Daleks
The Doctor-Donna
Partners in Crime
Gridlock
The End of the World
The "Time Lord Victorious" speech
Steve
IT gets th Timelash award.
>Daleks in Manhattan/Evolution of the Daleks
>The Doctor-Donna
>Partners in Crime
>Gridlock
>The End of the World
>The "Time Lord Victorious" speech
>
>
>
>Steve
>
>
If we're doing quotes, shouldn't we just be doing ones that can be
attributed to RTD? In any event those last two definitely deserve to
be in Lows.
RTD-penned quotes/scenes to treasure:
"I'm the Doctor, by the way. What's your name?" "Rose Tyler" "Pleased
to meet you, Rose Tyler. Run for your life!" (Rose)
The (in)famous "If you're an alien, how come you sound like you're
from the North?" "Lots of planets have a north" (Rose)
"We were just doing our jobs" "And with that sentence you lost the
right to even speak to me" (Parting of the Ways)
"They might not actually be Martians" "Of course not, Martians look
completely different" (The Christmas Invasion)
"Sorry, I'm the Doctor. I'm very clever" (Midnight)
Wilf with the paintball gun and the Dalek responding "My vision is not
impaired" (Journey's End)
The Doctor/Wilf cafe scene (End of Time)
Phil
When they should be chasing pussycats, right Aggy?
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> > Love and monsters
> > Dalek
> > Midnight
> > Waters of MArs
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> > Your opinions please.
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> > And I have not forgotten JOhn Fleming.
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Sooner or later somebody had to say something this stupid.
(Hint: Nobody has any idea how to make kids gay, or make them not gay.
There is no evidence that being aware of the existence of gay people
by seeing them on TV will make them gay.)
Good old Aggy - we can always rely on him to be that one, whatever the
subject matter.
Phil
Anything does remeniscing about the RTD Era.
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TRolls chronic liar MSP.
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Oh great.
At least you are neither Sailsbury or smith.
Wrong. If that was the case and it had no effect then kids would be allowed
to watch adult movies, which the clearly are not.
Bzzzzzt, thanks for playing and pickup your lovely parting gifts on the way
out.
Kids are prevented in Western society from watching adult films due to the
ongoing Puritan objection to the human body and sex. In fact movie censors
tend to allow huge amounts of foul language and violence in a film without
slapping an R rating on the movie, but if one breast is shown and bingo,
it's an adult film.
It is impossible to "make" a person gay or hetro anymore then they can be
forced to be right or left handed.
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PV
Puritanism is the haunting fear that someone, somewhere may be happy.
H.L. Mencken
So you can demonstrate the effect somehow? Or people just
instinctively know that pornography is bad for kids, and THEREFORE gay
characters will make kids gay...?!!?!
WTF? You're making no sense at all.
Nobody's talking about letting kids watch adult sexual movies, gay or
straight. I was talking about gay characters, doing roughly the same
sorts of things that straight characters do (fight aliens, fall in
love, kiss, travel through time, eat lunch). Knowing that gay people
exist - in the real world OR as TV characters - doesn't make anybody
gay.
Aggy, most adult movies are about heterosexuals, and kids aren't
allowed to watch those either. Is that because parents are scared
they'll turn straight?
Phil
Can we get back on topic before this turns into a flame thread?
It would be easier for you to just f*** off because your tender
sensibilities will suffer from reading all this talk about
sex...........especially when Aggy gets going on about his pussycats.
Said chronic liar Ron Hamilton.
Bestiality's best boys
Bestiality's best
Bestiality's best boys
Beastiality's best.
Put your log in a dog boys
Put your log in a dog
Put your log in a dog boys
Put your log in a dog
Altogether now
Bestiality's best boys . . .
LOL....
You never say that about Aggy.
I was talking about loon Mr.SmartyPAnts the SmarmyPAnts!
What's Dalek doing in your lows list, you freak of nature?
You're not fit to speak ill of that brilliant episode you lowlife!
He's not trolling.
He's not lying.
He's not addicted to crack..........but he *is* 100% RIGHT about you!