Re: The Doctor The Widow and the Wardrobe : Aslan

[solar penguin]

john smith wrote:

> "solar penguin" <solar....@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:d83f7d6e-3f1c-4ba4...@j42g2000vbt.googlegroups.com...
> >
> >
> > On Jan 21, 2:26 pm, The Doctor wrote:
> >
> >> In article
> >> <82c23736-981e-42b5...@c6g2000vbk.googlegroups.com>,
> >> solar penguin <solar....@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >The Doctor wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> In article
> >> >> <157202cf-8589-423b...@k28g2000yqc.googlegroups.com>,
> >> >> solar penguin <solar....@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> >The Doctor wrote:
> >> >> >
> >> >> >> In article
> >> >> >> <be3317d4-0ea5-416f...@u2g2000vbe.googlegroups.com>,
> >> >> >> solar penguin <solar....@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >The Doctor wrote:
> >> >> >> >> In article
> >> >> >> >> <33d8b8dc-6fd8-4d6b...@o14g2000vbo.googlegroups.com>,
> >> >> >> >> JamieJamie <jh...@onetel.com> wrote:
> >> >> >> >> >Aslan was a lion right? Who dies then came back to life? Then
> >> >> >> >> >kills the Snow Queen? Soooooo what the f*ck are you
> >> >> >> >> >talking about?
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> She took in the spirits of the trees so that they may
> >> >> >> >> live on.
> >> >> >> >> --
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >And how is that like what Aslan did?
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> The sacrifice to bring back life.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Have you forgotten about that?
> >> >> >> --
> >> >> >
> >> >> >Maybe I have. I don't remember the Widow sacrificing anything,
> >> >> >or anyone sacrificing her. In fact I don't remember anyone
> >> >> >sacrificing anything in the episode.
> >> >> >
> >> >> >More importantly, the woman isn't bringing life "back" to
> >> >> >Androzani, but taking it away from there to somewhere
> >> >> >else. Had you forgotten that?
> >> >>
> >> >> She is taking it to a safe place. That is the sacrifice.
> >> >> --
> >> >
> >> >I think you need to look up the word "sacrifice" in the
> >> >dictionary. It means getting rid of something for the
> >> >greater good, specifically something that you'd
> >> >otherwise want to keep.
> >> >
> >> >The widow didn't get rid of anything that she'd otherwise
> >> >want to keep. Therefore, no sacrifice,
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >> Did she want ot live with essence of trees all her life? I doubt that.
> >> --
> >
> > What you personally doubt or believe has nothing to with what
> > was actually in the episode.
> >
>
>
> That's Yads for you: he can't see the trees for the wood...

He should be used to that by now. His head's made of the stuff.

[The Doctor]

In article <b18c5489-fd8e-4cc9...@o12g2000vbd.googlegroups.com>,

Care to drink liquid ice solar penguin?
--
Member - Liberal International This is doc...@nl2k.ab.ca Ici doc...@nl2k.ab.ca
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Birthdate : 29 Jan 1969 Croydon, Surrey, UK

[solar penguin]

Is that supposed to be some kind of insult?

[The Doctor]

In article <0583c48a-742c-4ed4...@l1g2000vbc.googlegroups.com>,

We need to find a way to cool you down.

[john smith]

"solar penguin" <solar....@gmail.com> wrote in message

news:0583c48a-742c-4ed4...@l1g2000vbc.googlegroups.com...

LOL! Yads shows himself to be an idiot yet again!

Considering liquid ice is water, it's not much of an insult, is it?

[The Doctor]

In article <KKmTq.3195$vm5...@newsfe03.ams2>,

Clueless troll john smith does it again.

[Sergeant Preston]

On Jan 23, 6:35 pm, doc...@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The Doctor) wrote:
> In article <KKmTq.3195$vm5....@newsfe03.ams2>,
>
>
>
>
>
> john smith <the_johnsm...@ntlworld.com> wrote:
>
> >"solar penguin" <solar.peng...@gmail.com> wrote in message

> >news:0583c48a-742c-4ed4...@l1g2000vbc.googlegroups.com...
>
> >> The Doctor wrote:
>
> >>> In article

> >>> <b18c5489-fd8e-4cc9-9218-e10c40784...@o12g2000vbd.googlegroups.com>,

> >>> solar penguin  <solar.peng...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >>> >john smith wrote:
>

> >>> >> "solar penguin" <solar.peng...@gmail.com> wrote in message

> >>> >>news:d83f7d6e-3f1c-4ba4...@j42g2000vbt.googlegroups.com...
>
> >>> >> > On Jan 21, 2:26 pm, The Doctor wrote:
>
> >>> >> >> In article

> >>> >> >> <82c23736-981e-42b5-bea4-a701d73d7...@c6g2000vbk.googlegroups.com>,

> >>> >> >> solar penguin  <solar.peng...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >>> >> >> >The Doctor wrote:
>
> >>> >> >> >> In article

> >>> >> >> >> <157202cf-8589-423b-8de9-00443726f...@k28g2000yqc.googlegroups.com>,

> >>> >> >> >> solar penguin  <solar.peng...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >>> >> >> >> >The Doctor wrote:
>
> >>> >> >> >> >> In article

> >>> >> >> >> >> <be3317d4-0ea5-416f-a3f1-facfc1e62...@u2g2000vbe.googlegroups.com>,

> >>> >> >> >> >> solar penguin  <solar.peng...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >>> >> >> >> >> >The Doctor wrote:
> >>> >> >> >> >> >> In article

> >>> >> >> >> >> >> <33d8b8dc-6fd8-4d6b-9b1f-b765f450a...@o14g2000vbo.googlegroups.com>,

>  This is doc

Just discovered Smith's real name is:

Sir John Gay-smith....and a "close friend" of Elton !!
--
H.J.

[Ignis Fatuus]

On Tue, 24 Jan 2012 00:15:32 -0000, "john smith"
<the_jo...@ntlworld.com> wrote:

>
>"solar penguin" <solar....@gmail.com> wrote in message

>news:0583c48a-742c-4ed4...@l1g2000vbc.googlegroups.com...

>>
>>
>> The Doctor wrote:
>>

>>> Care to drink liquid ice solar penguin?
>>> --
>>
>> Is that supposed to be some kind of insult?
>
>
>
>LOL! Yads shows himself to be an idiot yet again!
>
>Considering liquid ice is water, it's not much of an insult, is it?
>

As a wholly disinterested observer of this interminable exchange of
verbal hostilities I often find myself wondering who is the organ
grinder... who the monkey. As he seems to have everyone from Eudyptes
Solaris to the Gran-Demoan of Monkery dancing to his tune, I can only
conclude that Yads has the upper hand by a very considerable margin.

[The Doctor]

In article <0f48a156-2e2a-46a0...@b23g2000yqn.googlegroups.com>,
Sergeant Preston <Sgt.P...@hotmail.com> wrote:

>On Jan 23, 6:35=A0pm, doc...@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The Doctor) wrote:
>> In article <KKmTq.3195$vm5....@newsfe03.ams2>,
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> john smith <the_johnsm...@ntlworld.com> wrote:
>>
>> >"solar penguin" <solar.peng...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>> >news:0583c48a-742c-4ed4...@l1g2000vbc.googlegroups.com...
>>
>> >> The Doctor wrote:
>>
>> >>> In article
>> >>> <b18c5489-fd8e-4cc9-9218-e10c40784...@o12g2000vbd.googlegroups.com>,

>> >>> solar penguin =A0<solar.peng...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> >>> >john smith wrote:
>>
>> >>> >> "solar penguin" <solar.peng...@gmail.com> wrote in message

>> >>> >>news:d83f7d6e-3f1c-4ba4...@j42g2000vbt.googlegroups.=

>com...
>>
>> >>> >> > On Jan 21, 2:26 pm, The Doctor wrote:
>>
>> >>> >> >> In article

>> >>> >> >> <82c23736-981e-42b5-bea4-a701d73d7...@c6g2000vbk.googlegroups.c=
>om>,

>> >>> >> >> solar penguin =A0<solar.peng...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> >>> >> >> >The Doctor wrote:
>>
>> >>> >> >> >> In article

>> >>> >> >> >> <157202cf-8589-423b-8de9-00443726f...@k28g2000yqc.googlegrou=
>ps.com>,

>> >>> >> >> >> solar penguin =A0<solar.peng...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> >>> >> >> >> >The Doctor wrote:
>>
>> >>> >> >> >> >> In article

>> >>> >> >> >> >> <be3317d4-0ea5-416f-a3f1-facfc1e62...@u2g2000vbe.googlegr=
>oups.com>,

>> >>> >> >> >> >> solar penguin =A0<solar.peng...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> >>> >> >> >> >> >The Doctor wrote:
>> >>> >> >> >> >> >> In article

>> >>> >> >> >> >> >> <33d8b8dc-6fd8-4d6b-9b1f-b765f450a...@o14g2000vbo.goog=
>legroups.com>,
>> >>> >> >> >> >> >> JamieJamie =A0<j...@onetel.com> wrote:
>> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >Aslan was a lion right? Who dies then came back to li=

>fe?
>> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >Then
>> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >kills the Snow Queen? Soooooo what the f*ck are you
>> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >talking about?
>>
>> >>> >> >> >> >> >> She took in the spirits of the trees so that they may
>> >>> >> >> >> >> >> live on.
>> >>> >> >> >> >> >> --
>>
>> >>> >> >> >> >> >And how is that like what Aslan did?
>>
>> >>> >> >> >> >> The sacrifice to bring back life.
>>
>> >>> >> >> >> >> Have you forgotten about that?
>> >>> >> >> >> >> --
>>

>> >>> >> >> >> >Maybe I have. =A0I don't remember the Widow sacrificing any=
>thing,
>> >>> >> >> >> >or anyone sacrificing her. =A0In fact I don't remember anyo=

>ne
>> >>> >> >> >> >sacrificing anything in the episode.
>>
>> >>> >> >> >> >More importantly, the woman isn't bringing life "back" to
>> >>> >> >> >> >Androzani, but taking it away from there to somewhere

>> >>> >> >> >> >else. =A0Had you forgotten that?
>>
>> >>> >> >> >> She is taking it to a safe place. =A0That is the sacrifice.

>> >>> >> >> >> --
>>
>> >>> >> >> >I think you need to look up the word "sacrifice" in the

>> >>> >> >> >dictionary. =A0It means getting rid of something for the

>> >>> >> >> >greater good, specifically something that you'd
>> >>> >> >> >otherwise want to keep.
>>
>> >>> >> >> >The widow didn't get rid of anything that she'd otherwise

>> >>> >> >> >want to keep. =A0Therefore, no sacrifice,
>>
>> >>> >> >> Did she want ot live with essence of trees all her life? =A0I d=

>oubt
>> >>> >> >> that.
>> >>> >> >> --
>>
>> >>> >> > What you personally doubt or believe has nothing to with what
>> >>> >> > was actually in the episode.
>>
>> >>> >> That's Yads for you: he can't see the trees for the wood...
>>

>> >>> >He should be used to that by now. =A0His head's made of the stuff.

>>
>> >>> Care to drink liquid ice solar penguin?
>> >>> --
>>
>> >> Is that supposed to be some kind of insult?
>>

>> >LOL! =A0Yads shows himself to be an idiot yet again!

>>
>> >Considering liquid ice is water, it's not much of an insult, is it?
>>
>> Clueless troll john smith does it again.
>> --

>> =A0This is doc

>
>Just discovered Smith's real name is:
>
>Sir John Gay-smith....and a "close friend" of Elton !!
>--
>H.J.

Are you doing some AUK nominations?

[The Doctor]

In article <ft0sh75vnvuufopne...@4ax.com>,

Touche.

[Ignis Fatuus]

On Tue, 24 Jan 2012 01:38:39 +0000 (UTC), This account has been banned
because it violated the Google Groups Terms Of Use
<inv...@not-for-mail.invalid> wrote:

>Are you saying is that Yads is grinding his own organ, or Yads has the
>upper hand by virtue of being the monkey climbing the proverbial tree?
>
>Please clarify.

I'm sure you'll be able to work it out on your own.

[solar penguin]

Ignis Fatuus wrote:

>
> As a wholly disinterested observer of this interminable exchange of
> verbal hostilities I often find myself wondering who is the organ
> grinder... who the monkey.

Pay close attention to the subthread about the puppies, and that
should answer your question.

> As he seems to have everyone from Eudyptes
> Solaris to the Gran-Demoan of Monkery dancing to his tune, I can only
> conclude that Yads has the upper hand by a very considerable margin.

I like using Yads to sort out my own feelings on complex issues. He's
so obtuse that I have to take the ideas bubbling through my head and
break them down into their simplest elements to help him understand.
Which of course helps me understand them better, and can lead to some
surprising results (e.g. the digression about faith vs deeds).

Trust me. When it stops being fun or useful, I'll stop it.

[solar penguin]

The Doctor wrote:

> In article <2ced2721-4468-47a1...@s7g2000vby.googlegroups.com>,

> solar penguin <solar....@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >
> >The Doctor wrote:
> >

> >> In article <9c2350ac-da8a-4efa...@t30g2000vbx.googlegroups.com>,
> >> solar penguin <solar....@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >(*sigh*)
> >> >
> >> >Let's get back to first principles.
> >> >
> >>
> >> All right fould bird.
> >>
> >> >I don't know all the details of Christian theology, but I think the
> >> >issue here is that you belong to one of those weird evangelical
> >> >Christian sects that stress salvation by good faith rather than by
> >> >good deeds or good works.
> >>
> >> Drop the word weird and you got the correct context.
> >
> >So your sect does stress good faith rather than actual good deeds? I
> >thought so. But that sounds pretty weird to mainstream Christianity,
> >and mainstream morality in general.
>
>
> Ever read JEremiah thoroughly?
>

To be honest, I tend to get those Old Testament prophet types mixed
up. I'm sure I have read him, but I can't remember what makes him
different from all the others.

Of course, that's another difference between evangelical sects and the
mainstream. Evangelists tend to go for weird dispensational exegesis
of the prophets, and end up attaching too much importance to the
prophecies as a result. So even if I did remember the passage you
were talking about, I probably wouldn't agree with your interpretation
of it anyway.

> >
> >> We even have a pastor with and Anglican brackground.
> >>
> >> >
> >> >This is exemplified by that character in the in Left Behind books who
> >> >refuses to ride on a bus past a disaster site without helping the
> >> >victims. Instead he makes a big show of walking past the disaster
> >> >site, demonstrating his faith by empathising with the victims, but not
> >> >lifting a finger to actually help them!
> >>
> >> Care to name the character?
> >>
> >
> >No, I don't particularly care to. But I will if you ask me to.
> >
>
> Consider yourself asked.
>

Rayford Steele. Not that his name makes any difference to the point
I'm making.

> >> >
> >> >So for mainstream Christians, and mainstream morality in general, the
> >> >important thing about Christ's sacrifice is that it was literally a
> >> >sacrifice as he literally _gave up_ his liberty, his dignity and even
> >> >his life for the greater good.
> >>
> >> And his position in life.
> >>
> >> >
> >> >That's what a sacrifice is. Giving up or getting rid of something for
> >> >the greater good, specifically something that you care about and would
> >> >otherwise want to keep.
> >>
> >> Point well taken
> >>
> >
> >I'm surprised you needed someone to make such an obvious point for
> >you.
>
> But you miss my obvious point.
>

I see your point. I just don't agree with it.

> >
> >> >
> >> >But from your evangelical perspective, the unusual thing is that
> >> >Christ would actually want to do a good deed to help anyone else in
> >> >the first place! You think of helping other people as something
> >> >remarkable, rather than the minimum starting point for any good kind
> >> >of of morality.
> >> >
> >>
> >> Look at the sacrifice on the cross as an example of your statement.
> >
> >Yes, that's why I used the sacrifice on the cross as an example in my
> >statement.
>
> Similar when mum went into the chair.
>

She was not giving up her liberty, dignity or her life. So it wasn't
similar at all.

> >
> >>
> >> >Getting back to the episode, the widow did not give up anything for
> >> >the greater good. She did a good deed, yes. A very good deed. But
> >> >that is not the same as a sacrifice.
> >> >
> >>
> >> She merged with the forest. If that merger did not happen
> >> the Forest would have died.
> >
> >Yes, and that was a good deed. Not a sacrifice, but still a very good
> >deed. It won't magically turn into a sacrifice just because you keep
> >mentioning it over and over again.
>
> It was. Do you want the many entities in your head?
>

She didn't seem to mind having the entities in there, once she was
past the initial shock. She definitely wasn't suffering in a way
similar to crucifixion. And like I said, I wouldn't've expected that
kind of blasphemy from you of all people.

> >
> >>
> >> >Do you understand now?
> >> >
> >> >Do you agree that the word "sacrifice" means giving up or getting rid

> >> >of something for the greater good, specifically something that you

> >> >would otherwise want to keep? Yes or No?
> >> >
> >> >If you disagree with this, please tell us exactly what you you think
> >> >"sacrifice" means? What do you think is the main difference between a
> >> >good deed and a sacrifice? Because unless you tell us exactly what
> >> >you're talking about, we've no idea what you're talking about!
> >>
> >> Look at my argement above. Also credit Stephen Moffat with the disccusion.
> >>
> >> --
> >
> >No. You look at my question above. I asked a very specific question
> >about your definition of "sacrifice". You haven't answered it in your
> >arrangement above. Or anywhere else for that matter.
> >
> >As the only reason we're having this discussion is because you don't
> >give direct answers to direct questions, I'm not going to blame the
> >Moff. It's entirely your fault, not his.
>
> Because Moffat did successful adapt TLTWaTW to DW.
> --

Irrelevant, because you didn't successfully explain what you think is
the main difference between a sacrifice and a good deed. That's your
fault. Not Moffat's.

[Ignis Fatuus]

So you're telling me you don't have a yaddiction problem.


BTW, do you shoot, snort, or just smoke?

[The Doctor]

In rec.arts.drwho Fred Hall <fkh...@gmail.com> wrote:
: On Mon, 23 Jan 2012 16:52:38 -0800 (PST), Sergeant Preston
: <Sgt.P...@hotmail.com> wrote in
: <0f48a156-2e2a-46a0...@b23g2000yqn.googlegroups.com>:

: >Gay

: Old news

And duly dealt with.

[The Doctor]

In rec.arts.drwho This account has been banned because it violated the Google Groups Terms Of Use <inv...@not-for-mail.invalid> wrote:
: Ignis Fatuus <Ig...@fatuusisland.com> wrote:

: > On Tue, 24 Jan 2012 00:15:32 -0000, "john smith"

: Are you saying is that Yads is grinding his own organ, or Yads has the
: upper hand by virtue of being the monkey climbing the proverbial tree?

: Please clarify.


You may want to flee.

[The Doctor]

In rec.arts.drwho Ignis Fatuus <Ig...@fatuusisland.com> wrote:
: On Tue, 24 Jan 2012 01:38:39 +0000 (UTC), This account has been banned

Depends if the clues will help.

[The Doctor]

In rec.arts.drwho solar penguin <solar....@gmail.com> wrote:

Recall when an unwanted entity enters drwho all drwhoers will
repel said entity.

[The Doctor]

It makes mention of the heart.


: > >
: > >> We even have a pastor with and Anglican brackground.

: > >>
: > >> >
: > >> >This is exemplified by that character in the in Left Behind books who
: > >> >refuses to ride on a bus past a disaster site without helping the
: > >> >victims. Instead he makes a big show of walking past the disaster
: > >> >site, demonstrating his faith by empathising with the victims, but not
: > >> >lifting a finger to actually help them!
: > >>
: > >> Care to name the character?
: > >>
: > >
: > >No, I don't particularly care to. But I will if you ask me to.
: > >
: >
: > Consider yourself asked.
: >

: Rayford Steele. Not that his name makes any difference to the point
: I'm making.

Got you about Rayford.

: > >> >
: > >> >So for mainstream Christians, and mainstream morality in general, the

: > >> >important thing about Christ's sacrifice is that it was literally a
: > >> >sacrifice as he literally _gave up_ his liberty, his dignity and even
: > >> >his life for the greater good.
: > >>
: > >> And his position in life.
: > >>
: > >> >
: > >> >That's what a sacrifice is. Giving up or getting rid of something for
: > >> >the greater good, specifically something that you care about and would
: > >> >otherwise want to keep.
: > >>
: > >> Point well taken
: > >>
: > >
: > >I'm surprised you needed someone to make such an obvious point for
: > >you.
: >
: > But you miss my obvious point.
: >

: I see your point. I just don't agree with it.

Fair ball.

: > >
: > >> >
: > >> >But from your evangelical perspective, the unusual thing is that

: > >> >Christ would actually want to do a good deed to help anyone else in
: > >> >the first place! You think of helping other people as something
: > >> >remarkable, rather than the minimum starting point for any good kind
: > >> >of of morality.
: > >> >
: > >>
: > >> Look at the sacrifice on the cross as an example of your statement.
: > >
: > >Yes, that's why I used the sacrifice on the cross as an example in my
: > >statement.
: >
: > Similar when mum went into the chair.
: >

: She was not giving up her liberty, dignity or her life. So it wasn't
: similar at all.

She was about to if she merged with the forest.

The Doctor had to guide her out.

: > >
: > >>
: > >> >Getting back to the episode, the widow did not give up anything for

: > >> >the greater good. She did a good deed, yes. A very good deed. But
: > >> >that is not the same as a sacrifice.
: > >> >
: > >>
: > >> She merged with the forest. If that merger did not happen
: > >> the Forest would have died.
: > >
: > >Yes, and that was a good deed. Not a sacrifice, but still a very good
: > >deed. It won't magically turn into a sacrifice just because you keep
: > >mentioning it over and over again.
: >
: > It was. Do you want the many entities in your head?
: >

: She didn't seem to mind having the entities in there, once she was
: past the initial shock. She definitely wasn't suffering in a way
: similar to crucifixion. And like I said, I wouldn't've expected that
: kind of blasphemy from you of all people.

Blasphemy?


The entities were suffering a state of pain , so is humanity.

: > >
: > >>
: > >> >Do you understand now?

: > >> >
: > >> >Do you agree that the word "sacrifice" means giving up or getting rid
: > >> >of something for the greater good, specifically something that you
: > >> >would otherwise want to keep? Yes or No?
: > >> >
: > >> >If you disagree with this, please tell us exactly what you you think
: > >> >"sacrifice" means? What do you think is the main difference between a
: > >> >good deed and a sacrifice? Because unless you tell us exactly what
: > >> >you're talking about, we've no idea what you're talking about!
: > >>
: > >> Look at my argement above. Also credit Stephen Moffat with the disccusion.
: > >>
: > >> --
: > >
: > >No. You look at my question above. I asked a very specific question
: > >about your definition of "sacrifice". You haven't answered it in your
: > >arrangement above. Or anywhere else for that matter.
: > >
: > >As the only reason we're having this discussion is because you don't
: > >give direct answers to direct questions, I'm not going to blame the
: > >Moff. It's entirely your fault, not his.
: >
: > Because Moffat did successful adapt TLTWaTW to DW.
: > --

: Irrelevant, because you didn't successfully explain what you think is
: the main difference between a sacrifice and a good deed. That's your
: fault. Not Moffat's.

Recall Christ did not have to give up his Divinity. He made
a choice to do so.

[The Doctor]

In rec.arts.drwho Ignis Fatuus <Ig...@fatuusisland.com> wrote:

: On Tue, 24 Jan 2012 01:39:51 -0800 (PST), solar penguin

Good one IF!

[Loaf of Bread]

[Loaf of Bread]

On Jan 23, 5:52 pm, Sergeant Preston <Sgt.Pres...@hotmail.com> wrote:

> Just discovered Smith's real name is:
>
> Sir John Gay-smith....and a "close friend" of Elton !!

So. Just discovered your real name is Norman

[john smith]

"solar penguin" <solar....@gmail.com> wrote in message

news:2a4645ee-a5b9-4242...@u20g2000yqb.googlegroups.com...

Get a pen friend. That's what I used to use those for...

[john smith]

"solar penguin" <solar....@gmail.com> wrote in message

news:ba067bba-bd2c-4bdf...@t2g2000yqk.googlegroups.com...

He didn't even do that either, you thick religious loon, or the BBC would
have been sued for breach of copyright...

[The Doctor]

In article <k%HTq.971$GO3...@newsfe30.ams2>,

That is who Solar and I get along.

[The Doctor]

In article <R0ITq.4381$CG....@newsfe06.ams2>,

I have my doubts.

[solar penguin]

The Doctor wrote

> In rec.arts.drwho solar penguin <solar....@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> : Trust me. When it stops being fun or useful, I'll stop it.
>
> Recall when an unwanted entity enters drwho all drwhoers will
> repel said entity.
>
> --

No, I can't recall any such thing. You just made it up.

[solar penguin]

The Doctor wrote:

> In rec.arts.drwho solar penguin <solar....@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> : The Doctor wrote:
>
> : > In article <2ced2721-4468-47a1...@s7g2000vby.googlegroups.com>,
> : > solar penguin <solar....@gmail.com> wrote:
> : > >
> : > >
> : > >The Doctor wrote:
> : > >
> : > >> In article <9c2350ac-da8a-4efa...@t30g2000vbx.googlegroups.com>,
> : > >> solar penguin <solar....@gmail.com> wrote:
> : > >> >

> : > >> >Do you agree that the word "sacrifice" means giving up or getting rid
> : > >> >of something for the greater good, specifically something that you
> : > >> >would otherwise want to keep? Yes or No?
> : > >> >
> : > >> >If you disagree with this, please tell us exactly what you you think
> : > >> >"sacrifice" means? What do you think is the main difference between a
> : > >> >good deed and a sacrifice? Because unless you tell us exactly what
> : > >> >you're talking about, we've no idea what you're talking about!
> : > >>
> : > >> Look at my argement above. Also credit Stephen Moffat with the disccusion.
> : > >>
> : > >> --
> : > >
> : > >No. You look at my question above. I asked a very specific question
> : > >about your definition of "sacrifice". You haven't answered it in your
> : > >arrangement above. Or anywhere else for that matter.
> : > >
> : > >As the only reason we're having this discussion is because you don't
> : > >give direct answers to direct questions, I'm not going to blame the
> : > >Moff. It's entirely your fault, not his.
> : >
> : > Because Moffat did successful adapt TLTWaTW to DW.
> : > --
>
> : Irrelevant, because you didn't successfully explain what you think is
> : the main difference between a sacrifice and a good deed. That's your
> : fault. Not Moffat's.
>
> Recall Christ did not have to give up his Divinity. He made
> a choice to do so.
>

As you said elsewhere in this thread:
"Answer my question then you will get an answer."

[The Doctor]

In article <2718724c-60b8-4029...@i25g2000vbt.googlegroups.com>,

Arm yourself Sp.

[The Doctor]

In article <b4d9c337-71f5-482b...@b23g2000yqn.googlegroups.com>,

As you like it.

[The Demon of Mockery]

Hail Eris! On Jan 25, 12:51 pm, The Idiot wrote:
> Loaf of Bread wrote:
> >On Jan 24, 6:15=A0pm, The Doctor wrote:
>
> >> I have my doubts.
>
> >Not that it has any relevance to the discussion.
>
> I doubt you understand context.
>
> Spews venomous anti-social anti-common-sense obnoxious mannerless
> toxic unwholesome white mouldy Loaf of Bread.

<Stan & Kyle> Oh my god! You killed irony! You BASTARD!

Snarky

[The Doctor]

In rec.arts.drwho The Demon of Mockery <popes...@gmail.com> wrote:

Frozen Ghost found that funny.

Back in the Vat of Eris you go Frozen Ghost.

[solar penguin]

Duggy wrote:

> On Jan 28, 11:07 pm, doc...@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The Doctor) wrote:
> > In article <294c4ea6-4750-420c-9e44-043b2bfef...@pt5g2000pbb.googlegroups.com>,
> >
> > Duggy  <p.allan.dug...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >On Jan 28, 12:24=A0am, doc...@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The Doctor) wrote:
> > >> In article <b875b850-5043-45cf-bdef-d169e145d...@pk8g2000pbb.googlegroups=
> > >.com>,
> >
> > >> Duggy =A0<p.allan.dug...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >> >On Jan 27, 2:07=3DA0pm, doc...@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The Doctor) wrote:
> >
> > >> >> >You said "I have my doubts"
> > >> >> That puupies were killed in TDTWaTW
> >
> > >> >What are puupies?
> >
> > >> Fixed.
> >
> > >> >> >Then again, you also think that The Widow is Asian for some reason.
> > >> >> And was established.
> >
> > >> >She looks white to me?
> >
> > >> You missed an article.
> >
> > >No way was she asian.
> >
> > Not in TDTWaTW.
>
> You're saying the Widow was Asian?
>
> How so?
>

Presumably some sort of racist thing about eating dogs. That might
explain her killing the puppies.

[John Fleming]

[Default] On Sat, 28 Jan 2012 05:57:46 -0800 (PST), while chained to a
desk in the scriptorium solar penguin <solar....@gmail.com> wrote:
> $Duggy wrote:
> $> On Jan 28, 11:07 pm, doc...@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The Doctor) wrote:
> $> > In article <294c4ea6-4750-420c-9e44-043b2bfef...@pt5g2000pbb.googlegroups.com>,
> $> >
> $> > Duggy  <p.allan.dug...@gmail.com> wrote:
> $> > >On Jan 28, 12:24=A0am, doc...@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The Doctor) wrote:
> $> > >> In article <b875b850-5043-45cf-bdef-d169e145d...@pk8g2000pbb.googlegroups=
> $> > >.com>,
> $> >
> $> > >> Duggy =A0<p.allan.dug...@gmail.com> wrote:
> $> > >> >On Jan 27, 2:07=3DA0pm, doc...@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The Doctor) wrote:
> $> >
> $> > >> >> >You said "I have my doubts"
> $> > >> >> That puupies were killed in TDTWaTW
> $> >
> $> > >> >What are puupies?
> $> >
> $> > >> Fixed.
> $> >
> $> > >> >> >Then again, you also think that The Widow is Asian for some reason.
> $> > >> >> And was established.
> $> >
> $> > >> >She looks white to me?
> $> >
> $> > >> You missed an article.
> $> >
> $> > >No way was she asian.
> $> >
> $> > Not in TDTWaTW.
> $>
> $> You're saying the Widow was Asian?
> $>
> $> How so?
> $>
> $
> $Presumably some sort of racist thing about eating dogs. That might
> $explain her killing the puppies.

As well, here in the western world, having someone kill puppies is a
way of painting them as being somewhat evil. Wasn't something like
that one of the things that was used to make the villian a villian in
"101 Dalmatians"? The desire to get rid of the dogs?
--


John Fleming
Edmonton, Canada


Old MacDonald had a farm E-I-E-I-O
And on that farm he had a genome E-I-E-I-O
With a SNP SNP here and a SNP SNP there,
Here a SNP, there a SNP, everywhere a SNP SNP
Old MacDonald had a farm E-I-E-I-O

[Mr.Smartypants]

On Jan 28, 9:14 am, John Fleming <nos...@sprynet.com> wrote:
> [Default] On Sat, 28 Jan 2012 05:57:46 -0800 (PST), while chained to a

> that one of the things that was used to make the villian a villiann

> "101 Dalmatians"?  The desire to get rid of the dogs?
> --

Getting rid of the dogs wasn't the agenda. Turning them into an
overcoat was the plan.

[John Fleming]

[Default] On Sat, 28 Jan 2012 11:05:32 -0800 (PST), while chained to a
desk in the scriptorium "Mr.Smartypants" <bunghol...@lycos.com>
wrote:
> $On Jan 28, 9:14 am, John Fleming <nos...@sprynet.com> wrote:
> $> [Default] On Sat, 28 Jan 2012 05:57:46 -0800 (PST), while chained to a

> $> desk in the scriptorium solar penguin <solar.peng...@gmail.com> wrote:

> $> > $Presumably some sort of racist thing about eating dogs.  That might

> $> > $explain her killing the puppies.
> $>
> $> As well, here in the western world, having someone kill puppies is a
> $> way of painting them as being somewhat evil.  Wasn't something like
> $> that one of the things that was used to make the villian a villiann
> $> "101 Dalmatians"?  The desire to get rid of the dogs?
> $> --
> $
> $Getting rid of the dogs wasn't the agenda. Turning them into an
> $overcoat was the plan.

Considering the end result is the same, 101 dead dalmations, . . ..

[PV]

John Fleming wrote:
> [Default] On Sat, 28 Jan 2012 11:05:32 -0800 (PST), while chained to a
> desk in the scriptorium "Mr.Smartypants" <bunghol...@lycos.com>
> wrote:
>> $On Jan 28, 9:14 am, John Fleming <nos...@sprynet.com> wrote:
>> $> [Default] On Sat, 28 Jan 2012 05:57:46 -0800 (PST), while chained
>> to a $> desk in the scriptorium solar penguin
>> <solar.peng...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> $> > $Presumably some sort of racist thing about eating dogs. That
>> might $> > $explain her killing the puppies.
>> $>
>> $> As well, here in the western world, having someone kill puppies
>> is a $> way of painting them as being somewhat evil. Wasn't
>> something like $> that one of the things that was used to make the
>> villian a villiann $> "101 Dalmatians"? The desire to get rid of the
>> dogs? $> --
>> $
>> $Getting rid of the dogs wasn't the agenda. Turning them into an
>> $overcoat was the plan.
>
> Considering the end result is the same, 101 dead dalmations, . . ..

So is it more evil to turn them into coats or stir fry?

--
PV

"This sig left intentionally blank"

[The Doctor]

In article <q9m8i7129vgc6o8ma...@4ax.com>,

John Fleming <nos...@sprynet.com> wrote:
>[Default] On Sat, 28 Jan 2012 11:05:32 -0800 (PST), while chained to a
>desk in the scriptorium "Mr.Smartypants" <bunghol...@lycos.com>
>wrote:
>> $On Jan 28, 9:14 am, John Fleming <nos...@sprynet.com> wrote:
>> $> [Default] On Sat, 28 Jan 2012 05:57:46 -0800 (PST), while chained to a
>> $> desk in the scriptorium solar penguin <solar.peng...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> $> > $Presumably some sort of racist thing about eating dogs.  That might
>> $> > $explain her killing the puppies.
>> $>
>> $> As well, here in the western world, having someone kill puppies is a
>> $> way of painting them as being somewhat evil.  Wasn't something like
>> $> that one of the things that was used to make the villian a villiann
>> $> "101 Dalmatians"?  The desire to get rid of the dogs?
>> $> --
>> $
>> $Getting rid of the dogs wasn't the agenda. Turning them into an
>> $overcoat was the plan.
>
>Considering the end result is the same, 101 dead dalmations, . . ..
>--

That's Disney not BBC ;-()

>
>
>John Fleming
>Edmonton, Canada
>
>
> Old MacDonald had a farm E-I-E-I-O
> And on that farm he had a genome E-I-E-I-O
> With a SNP SNP here and a SNP SNP there,
> Here a SNP, there a SNP, everywhere a SNP SNP
> Old MacDonald had a farm E-I-E-I-O

[The Doctor]

In article <82ff84b2-74a4-4eea...@qv4g2000pbc.googlegroups.com>,
Mr.Smartypants <bunghol...@lycos.com> wrote:

>On Jan 28, 9:14=A0am, John Fleming <nos...@sprynet.com> wrote:
>> [Default] On Sat, 28 Jan 2012 05:57:46 -0800 (PST), while chained to a
>> desk in the scriptorium solar penguin <solar.peng...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> > $Duggy wrote:

>> > $> On Jan 28, 11:07=A0pm, doc...@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The Doctor) wrote:
>> > $> > In article <294c4ea6-4750-420c-9e44-043b2bfef...@pt5g2000pbb.googl=
>egroups.com>,

>> > $> >
>> > $> > Duggy =A0<p.allan.dug...@gmail.com> wrote:

>> > $> > >On Jan 28, 12:24=3DA0am, doc...@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The Doctor) wr=
>ote:
>> > $> > >> In article <b875b850-5043-45cf-bdef-d169e145d...@pk8g2000pbb.go=
>oglegroups=3D
>> > $> > >.com>,
>> > $> >
>> > $> > >> Duggy =3DA0<p.allan.dug...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > $> > >> >On Jan 27, 2:07=3D3DA0pm, doc...@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The Doctor=

>) wrote:
>> > $> >
>> > $> > >> >> >You said "I have my doubts"
>> > $> > >> >> That puupies were killed in TDTWaTW
>> > $> >
>> > $> > >> >What are puupies?
>> > $> >
>> > $> > >> Fixed.
>> > $> >

>> > $> > >> >> >Then again, you also think that The Widow is Asian for some=

> reason.
>> > $> > >> >> And was established.
>> > $> >
>> > $> > >> >She looks white to me?
>> > $> >
>> > $> > >> You missed an article.
>> > $> >
>> > $> > >No way was she asian.
>> > $> >
>> > $> > Not in TDTWaTW.
>> > $>
>> > $> You're saying the Widow was Asian?
>> > $>
>> > $> How so?
>> > $>
>> > $

>> > $Presumably some sort of racist thing about eating dogs. =A0That might

>> > $explain her killing the puppies.
>>
>> As well, here in the western world, having someone kill puppies is a

>> way of painting them as being somewhat evil. =A0Wasn't something like

>> that one of the things that was used to make the villian a villiann

>> "101 Dalmatians"? =A0The desire to get rid of the dogs?

>> --
>
>Getting rid of the dogs wasn't the agenda. Turning them into an
>overcoat was the plan.

Lies chronic liar and satanic illuminati anti-Semitic bigot Mr.Smartypants .

Mr.SmartyPAnts is a luser lurker stalker.

[The Doctor]

In article <wXYUq.4642$ak....@newsfe19.iad>,

Do you order dog on the menu when you go to a Chinese restaurant PV?
Or is it wolf?

[Duggy]

It is a stereotype that Asian women don't have puppies.

===
= DUG.
===

[Duggy]

On Jan 29, 6:24 am, John Fleming <nos...@sprynet.com> wrote:
> [Default] On Sat, 28 Jan 2012 11:05:32 -0800 (PST), while chained to a

> desk in the scriptorium "Mr.Smartypants" <bunghole-jon...@lycos.com>

> wrote:
>
> > $On Jan 28, 9:14 am, John Fleming <nos...@sprynet.com> wrote:
> > $> [Default] On Sat, 28 Jan 2012 05:57:46 -0800 (PST), while chained to a
> > $> desk in the scriptorium solar penguin <solar.peng...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > $> > $Presumably some sort of racist thing about eating dogs.  That might
> > $> > $explain her killing the puppies.
> > $>
> > $> As well, here in the western world, having someone kill puppies is a
> > $> way of painting them as being somewhat evil.  Wasn't something like
> > $> that one of the things that was used to make the villian a villiann
> > $> "101 Dalmatians"?  The desire to get rid of the dogs?
> > $> --
> > $
> > $Getting rid of the dogs wasn't the agenda. Turning them into an
> > $overcoat was the plan.
>
> Considering the end result is the same, 101 dead dalmations, . . ..

99. She wanted puppy fur, not the parents.

===
= DUG.
===

[PV]

The Doctor wrote:
> In article <wXYUq.4642$ak....@newsfe19.iad>,
> PV <edrnouser@ spam telus.net> wrote:
>> John Fleming wrote:
>>> [Default] On Sat, 28 Jan 2012 11:05:32 -0800 (PST), while chained
>>> to a desk in the scriptorium "Mr.Smartypants"
>>> <bunghol...@lycos.com> wrote:
>>>> $On Jan 28, 9:14 am, John Fleming <nos...@sprynet.com> wrote:
>>>> $> [Default] On Sat, 28 Jan 2012 05:57:46 -0800 (PST), while
>>>> chained to a $> desk in the scriptorium solar penguin
>>>> <solar.peng...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> $> > $Presumably some sort of racist thing about eating dogs. That
>>>> might $> > $explain her killing the puppies.
>>>> $>
>>>> $> As well, here in the western world, having someone kill puppies
>>>> is a $> way of painting them as being somewhat evil. Wasn't
>>>> something like $> that one of the things that was used to make the
>>>> villian a villiann $> "101 Dalmatians"? The desire to get rid of
>>>> the dogs? $> --
>>>> $
>>>> $Getting rid of the dogs wasn't the agenda. Turning them into an
>>>> $overcoat was the plan.
>>>
>>> Considering the end result is the same, 101 dead dalmations, . . ..
>>
>> So is it more evil to turn them into coats or stir fry?
>>
>

> Do you order dog on the menu when you go to a Chinese restaurant PV?
> Or is it wolf?

No I don't, do you? You didn't answer the question (big surprise)

[The Doctor]

In article <6e37d95f-e650-4496...@kn4g2000pbc.googlegroups.com>,
Duggy <p.allan...@gmail.com> wrote:

>On Jan 28, 11:57=A0pm, solar penguin <solar.peng...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Duggy wrote:

>> > On Jan 28, 11:07=A0pm, doc...@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The Doctor) wrote:
>> > > In article <294c4ea6-4750-420c-9e44-043b2bfef...@pt5g2000pbb.googlegr=
>oups.com>,
>>
>> > > Duggy =A0<p.allan.dug...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > > >On Jan 28, 12:24=3DA0am, doc...@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The Doctor) wrote=
>:
>> > > >> In article <b875b850-5043-45cf-bdef-d169e145d...@pk8g2000pbb.googl=
>egroups=3D
>> > > >.com>,
>>
>> > > >> Duggy =3DA0<p.allan.dug...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > > >> >On Jan 27, 2:07=3D3DA0pm, doc...@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The Doctor) w=

>rote:
>>
>> > > >> >> >You said "I have my doubts"
>> > > >> >> That puupies were killed in TDTWaTW
>>
>> > > >> >What are puupies?
>>
>> > > >> Fixed.
>>

>> > > >> >> >Then again, you also think that The Widow is Asian for some re=

>ason.
>> > > >> >> And was established.
>>
>> > > >> >She looks white to me?
>>
>> > > >> You missed an article.
>>
>> > > >No way was she asian.
>>
>> > > Not in TDTWaTW.
>>
>> > You're saying the Widow was Asian?
>>
>> > How so?
>>

>> Presumably some sort of racist thing about eating dogs. =A0That might

>> explain her killing the puppies.
>
>It is a stereotype that Asian women don't have puppies.
>

Bad one!!

[The Doctor]

In article <yH%Uq.3090$E07...@newsfe10.iad>,

Sounds like you know a bit about Chinese cuisine.

[Duggy]

On Jan 29, 10:01 am, doc...@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The Doctor) wrote:
> In article <6e37d95f-e650-4496-8fd7-b33e9f7c9...@kn4g2000pbc.googlegroups.com>,

Then why are you claiming The Widow is Asian?

===
= DUG.
===

[The Doctor]

In article <b97c1cca-b981-488c...@4g2000pbz.googlegroups.com>,
Duggy <p.allan...@gmail.com> wrote:
>On Jan 29, 10:01=A0am, doc...@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The Doctor) wrote:
>> In article <6e37d95f-e650-4496-8fd7-b33e9f7c9...@kn4g2000pbc.googlegroups=

>.com>,
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Duggy =A0<p.allan.dug...@gmail.com> wrote:

>> >On Jan 28, 11:57=3DA0pm, solar penguin <solar.peng...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> Duggy wrote:

>> >> > On Jan 28, 11:07=3DA0pm, doc...@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The Doctor) wrote=
>:
>> >> > > In article <294c4ea6-4750-420c-9e44-043b2bfef...@pt5g2000pbb.googl=
>egr=3D
>> >oups.com>,
>>
>> >> > > Duggy =3DA0<p.allan.dug...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> > > >On Jan 28, 12:24=3D3DA0am, doc...@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The Doctor) =
>wrote=3D
>> >:
>> >> > > >> In article <b875b850-5043-45cf-bdef-d169e145d...@pk8g2000pbb.go=
>ogl=3D
>> >egroups=3D3D
>> >> > > >.com>,
>>
>> >> > > >> Duggy =3D3DA0<p.allan.dug...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> > > >> >On Jan 27, 2:07=3D3D3DA0pm, doc...@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The Doct=
>or) w=3D

>> >rote:
>>
>> >> > > >> >> >You said "I have my doubts"
>> >> > > >> >> That puupies were killed in TDTWaTW
>>
>> >> > > >> >What are puupies?
>>
>> >> > > >> Fixed.
>>

>> >> > > >> >> >Then again, you also think that The Widow is Asian for some=
> re=3D

>> >ason.
>> >> > > >> >> And was established.
>>
>> >> > > >> >She looks white to me?
>>
>> >> > > >> You missed an article.
>>
>> >> > > >No way was she asian.
>>
>> >> > > Not in TDTWaTW.
>>
>> >> > You're saying the Widow was Asian?
>>
>> >> > How so?
>>

>> >> Presumably some sort of racist thing about eating dogs. =3DA0That migh=

>t
>> >> explain her killing the puppies.
>>
>> >It is a stereotype that Asian women don't have puppies.
>>
>> Bad one!!
>
>Then why are you claiming The Widow is Asian?
>

>=3D=3D=3D
>=3D DUG.
>=3D=3D=3D

I said the Widow was Aslan!

[Duggy]

On Jan 29, 10:13 am, doc...@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The Doctor) wrote:
> In article <b97c1cca-b981-488c-9030-79506069a...@4g2000pbz.googlegroups.com>,

> I said the Widow was Aslan!

Upper case I is incorrect.

===
= DUG.
===

[Robert Weldon]

"The Doctor" <doc...@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca> wrote in message
news:jg1mhl$4j$1...@gallifrey.nk.ca...

Okay, how is that a lie, it is the basic plot of the movie.

[The Doctor]

In article <i%yVq.3181$9j5....@newsfe09.iad>,

Read subject line for context.

[Robert Weldon]

"The Doctor" <doc...@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca> wrote in message

news:jg6vqq$7i3$1...@gallifrey.nk.ca...

How about you answer the question for a change?

[The Doctor]

In article <VeAWq.7072$nV5....@newsfe12.iad>,

Check topic before posting trollboy Weldon.

[Loaf of Bread]

On Feb 2, 11:27 am, doc...@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The Doctor) wrote:
> In article <VeAWq.7072$nV5.5...@newsfe12.iad>,

>
>
>
>
>
> Robert Weldon <robor...@live.ca> wrote:
> >"The Doctor" <doc...@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca> wrote in message
> >news:jg6vqq$7i3$1...@gallifrey.nk.ca...

> >> In article <i%yVq.3181$9j5.2...@newsfe09.iad>,

> >> Robert Weldon <robor...@live.ca> wrote:
> >>>"The Doctor" <doc...@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca> wrote in message
> >>>news:jg1mhl$4j$1...@gallifrey.nk.ca...
> >>>> In article

> >>>> <82ff84b2-74a4-4eea-8646-e0c411baf...@qv4g2000pbc.googlegroups.com>,

Ever occur to you that Usenet discussions drift away from the subject
line, and that we are now discussion dalmations?

[The Doctor]

In article <d387e450-9c2a-43fc...@b18g2000vbz.googlegroups.com>,
Loaf of Bread <john...@hotmail.com> wrote:

>On Feb 2, 11:27=A0am, doc...@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The Doctor) wrote:
>> In article <VeAWq.7072$nV5.5...@newsfe12.iad>,
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Robert Weldon <robor...@live.ca> wrote:
>> >"The Doctor" <doc...@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca> wrote in message
>> >news:jg6vqq$7i3$1...@gallifrey.nk.ca...
>> >> In article <i%yVq.3181$9j5.2...@newsfe09.iad>,
>> >> Robert Weldon <robor...@live.ca> wrote:
>> >>>"The Doctor" <doc...@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca> wrote in message
>> >>>news:jg1mhl$4j$1...@gallifrey.nk.ca...
>> >>>> In article
>> >>>> <82ff84b2-74a4-4eea-8646-e0c411baf...@qv4g2000pbc.googlegroups.com>,
>> >>>> Mr.Smartypants <bunghole-jon...@lycos.com> wrote:

>> >>>>>On Jan 28, 9:14=3DA0am, John Fleming <nos...@sprynet.com> wrote:
>> >>>>>> [Default] On Sat, 28 Jan 2012 05:57:46 -0800 (PST), while chained =
>to a
>> >>>>>> desk in the scriptorium solar penguin <solar.peng...@gmail.com> wr=
>ote:
>>
>> >>>>>> > $Duggy wrote:
>> >>>>>> > $> On Jan 28, 11:07=3DA0pm, doc...@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The Doctor=
>)
>> >>>>>> > wrote:
>> >>>>>> > $> > In article
>> >>>>>> > <294c4ea6-4750-420c-9e44-043b2bfef...@pt5g2000pbb.googl=3D
>> >>>>>egroups.com>,
>> >>>>>> > $> >

>> >>>>>> > $> > Duggy =3DA0<p.allan.dug...@gmail.com> wrote:

>> >>>>>> > $> > >On Jan 28, 12:24=3D3DA0am, doc...@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The D=
>octor)
>> >>>>>> > wr=3D
>> >>>>>ote:
>> >>>>>> > $> > >> In article
>> >>>>>> > <b875b850-5043-45cf-bdef-d169e145d...@pk8g2000pbb.go=3D
>> >>>>>oglegroups=3D3D
>> >>>>>> > $> > >.com>,
>> >>>>>> > $> >
>> >>>>>> > $> > >> Duggy =3D3DA0<p.allan.dug...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>>>>> > $> > >> >On Jan 27, 2:07=3D3D3DA0pm, doc...@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (T=
>he
>> >>>>>> > Doctor=3D

>> >>>>>) wrote:
>> >>>>>> > $> >
>> >>>>>> > $> > >> >> >You said "I have my doubts"
>> >>>>>> > $> > >> >> That puupies were killed in TDTWaTW
>> >>>>>> > $> >
>> >>>>>> > $> > >> >What are puupies?
>> >>>>>> > $> >
>> >>>>>> > $> > >> Fixed.
>> >>>>>> > $> >

>> >>>>>> > $> > >> >> >Then again, you also think that The Widow is Asian f=
>or
>> >>>>>> > some=3D

>> >>>>> reason.
>> >>>>>> > $> > >> >> And was established.
>> >>>>>> > $> >
>> >>>>>> > $> > >> >She looks white to me?
>> >>>>>> > $> >
>> >>>>>> > $> > >> You missed an article.
>> >>>>>> > $> >
>> >>>>>> > $> > >No way was she asian.
>> >>>>>> > $> >
>> >>>>>> > $> > Not in TDTWaTW.
>> >>>>>> > $>
>> >>>>>> > $> You're saying the Widow was Asian?
>> >>>>>> > $>
>> >>>>>> > $> How so?
>> >>>>>> > $>
>> >>>>>> > $

>> >>>>>> > $Presumably some sort of racist thing about eating dogs. =3DA0Th=

>at
>> >>>>>> > might
>> >>>>>> > $explain her killing the puppies.
>>

>> >>>>>> As well, here in the western world, having someone kill puppies is=
> a
>> >>>>>> way of painting them as being somewhat evil. =3DA0Wasn't something=
> like
>> >>>>>> that one of the things that was used to make the villian a villian=
>n
>> >>>>>> "101 Dalmatians"? =3DA0The desire to get rid of the dogs?

>> >>>>>> --
>>
>> >>>>>Getting rid of the dogs wasn't the agenda. Turning them into an
>> >>>>>overcoat was the plan.
>>
>> >>>> Lies chronic liar and satanic illuminati anti-Semitic bigot
>> >>>> Mr.Smartypants
>> >>>> .
>>
>> >>>> Mr.SmartyPAnts is a luser lurker stalker.
>> >>>> --
>> >>>> Member - Liberal International This is doc...@nl2k.ab.ca Ici
>> >>>> doc...@nl2k.ab.ca
>> >>>> God, Queen and country! Never Satan President Republic! Beware
>> >>>> AntiChrist
>> >>>> rising!
>> >>>>https://www.fullyfollow.me/rootnl2k
>> >>>> Birthdate : 29 Jan 1969 Croydon, Surrey, UK
>>
>> >>>Okay, how is that a lie, it is the basic plot of the movie.
>>
>> >> Read subject line for context.
>> >> --
>> >> Member - Liberal International This is doc...@nl2k.ab.ca Ici
>> >> doc...@nl2k.ab.ca

>> >> God, Queen and country! Never Satan President Republic! Beware AntiChr=

>ist
>> >> rising!
>> >>https://www.fullyfollow.me/rootnl2k
>> >> Birthdate : 29 Jan 1969 Croydon, Surrey, UK
>>
>> > How about you answer the question for a change?
>>
>> Check topic before posting trollboy Weldon.
>
>Ever occur to you that Usenet discussions drift away from the subject
>line, and that we are now discussion dalmations?

I doubt you are culturally educated enough to
know what the term Aslan means.

Spews venomous anti-social anti-common-sense obnoxious mannerless
toxic unwholesome white mouldy Loaf of Bread.

[Robert Weldon]

"The Doctor" <doc...@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca> wrote in message

news:jgeki2$jj2$1...@gallifrey.nk.ca...

You still haven't explained how his statement is a lie, as it is the basic
plot of the dalmations movie.

[Loaf of Bread]

On Feb 2, 11:53 am, doc...@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The Doctor) wrote:

> I doubt you are culturally educated enough to
> know what the term Aslan means.

Robert Peffers I presume?

[Loaf of Bread]

On Feb 3, 10:42 am, "Robert Weldon" <robor...@live.ca> wrote:
> "The Doctor" <doc...@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca> wrote in message

> news:jgeki2$jj2$1...@gallifrey.nk.ca...

> > Check topic before posting trollboy Weldon.
>

> You still haven't explained how his statement is a lie, as it is the basic
> plot of the dalmations movie.

He can't.

[The Doctor]

In article <51VWq.16788$Sh7....@newsfe15.iad>,

The thread is about ***ASLAN*** .

[Loaf of Bread]

On Feb 3, 2:19 pm, doc...@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The Doctor) wrote:
> In article <51VWq.16788$Sh7.5...@newsfe15.iad>,

>
>
>
>
>
> Robert Weldon <robor...@live.ca> wrote:
> >"The Doctor" <doc...@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca> wrote in message
> >news:jgeki2$jj2$1...@gallifrey.nk.ca...

> >> In article <VeAWq.7072$nV5.5...@newsfe12.iad>,

> >> Robert Weldon <robor...@live.ca> wrote:
> >>>"The Doctor" <doc...@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca> wrote in message
> >>>news:jg6vqq$7i3$1...@gallifrey.nk.ca...

> >>>> In article <i%yVq.3181$9j5.2...@newsfe09.iad>,

> >>>> Robert Weldon <robor...@live.ca> wrote:
> >>>>>"The Doctor" <doc...@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca> wrote in message
> >>>>>news:jg1mhl$4j$1...@gallifrey.nk.ca...
> >>>>>> In article

> >>>>>> <82ff84b2-74a4-4eea-8646-e0c411baf...@qv4g2000pbc.googlegroups.com>,

Wrong.

It might have been about that when it started, but people have moved
on to other things. Right now we are talking about dalmations.

[John Fleming]

[Default] On Mon, 30 Jan 2012 08:50:33 -0700, while chained to a desk
in the scriptorium "Robert Weldon" <robo...@live.ca> wrote:
> $"The Doctor" <doc...@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca> wrote in message
> $news:jg1mhl$4j$1...@gallifrey.nk.ca...
> $> In article
> $> <82ff84b2-74a4-4eea...@qv4g2000pbc.googlegroups.com>,
> $> Mr.Smartypants <bunghol...@lycos.com> wrote:
> $>>On Jan 28, 9:14=A0am, John Fleming <nos...@sprynet.com> wrote:
> $>>> [Default] On Sat, 28 Jan 2012 05:57:46 -0800 (PST), while chained to a
> $>>> desk in the scriptorium solar penguin <solar.peng...@gmail.com> wrote:
> $>>> > $Duggy wrote:
> $>>> > $> On Jan 28, 11:07=A0pm, doc...@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The Doctor) wrote:
> $>>> > $> > In article
> $>>> > <294c4ea6-4750-420c-9e44-043b2bfef...@pt5g2000pbb.googl=
> $>>egroups.com>,
> $>>> > $> >

> $>>> > $> > Duggy =A0<p.allan.dug...@gmail.com> wrote:

> $>>> > $> > >On Jan 28, 12:24=3DA0am, doc...@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The Doctor)
> $>>> > wr=
> $>>ote:
> $>>> > $> > >> In article
> $>>> > <b875b850-5043-45cf-bdef-d169e145d...@pk8g2000pbb.go=
> $>>oglegroups=3D
> $>>> > $> > >.com>,

> $>>> > $> >
> $>>> > $> > >> Duggy =3DA0<p.allan.dug...@gmail.com> wrote:

> $>>> > $> > >> >On Jan 27, 2:07=3D3DA0pm, doc...@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The
> $>>> > Doctor=
> $>>) wrote:
> $>>> > $> >

> $>>> > $> > >> >> >You said "I have my doubts"

> $>>> > $> > >> >> That puupies were killed in TDTWaTW

> $>>> > $> >
> $>>> > $> > >> >What are puupies?
> $>>> > $> >
> $>>> > $> > >> Fixed.
> $>>> > $> >
> $>>> > $> > >> >> >Then again, you also think that The Widow is Asian for

> $>>> > some=
> $>> reason.
> $>>> > $> > >> >> And was established.

> $>>> > $> >
> $>>> > $> > >> >She looks white to me?
> $>>> > $> >
> $>>> > $> > >> You missed an article.
> $>>> > $> >
> $>>> > $> > >No way was she asian.
> $>>> > $> >
> $>>> > $> > Not in TDTWaTW.
> $>>> > $>
> $>>> > $> You're saying the Widow was Asian?
> $>>> > $>
> $>>> > $> How so?
> $>>> > $>

> $>>> > $

> $>>> > $Presumably some sort of racist thing about eating dogs. =A0That might

> $>>> > $explain her killing the puppies.
> $>>>
> $>>> As well, here in the western world, having someone kill puppies is a
> $>>> way of painting them as being somewhat evil. =A0Wasn't something like
> $>>> that one of the things that was used to make the villian a villiann
> $>>> "101 Dalmatians"? =A0The desire to get rid of the dogs?
> $>>> --
> $>>
> $>>Getting rid of the dogs wasn't the agenda. Turning them into an
> $>>overcoat was the plan.
> $>
> $>
> $> Lies chronic liar and satanic illuminati anti-Semitic bigot Mr.Smartypants
> $> .
> $>
> $> Mr.SmartyPAnts is a luser lurker stalker.
> $
> $Okay, how is that a lie, it is the basic plot of the movie.

Since the subject has changed to 101 Dalmations, it isn't. The doctor
just has trouble following the conversation.
--

[The Doctor]

In article <3dqji795364o4752a...@4ax.com>,

Ther eis a difeerence between changed and hijacked.

[PV]

> Ther eis a difeerence between changed and hijacked.

And there is a difference between the english language and your posts

What's your point?

[The Doctor]

In article <k%%Wq.6873$9j5....@newsfe09.iad>,

PV <edrnouser@ spam telus.net> wrote:

Beware thread hijackers.

[John Fleming]

[Default] On Fri, 3 Feb 2012 18:39:27 -0700, while chained to a desk
in the scriptorium "PV" <edrnouser@ spam telus.net> wrote:
> $The Doctor wrote:
> $> In article <3dqji795364o4752a...@4ax.com>,
> $> John Fleming <nos...@sprynet.com> wrote:
> $>> [Default] On Mon, 30 Jan 2012 08:50:33 -0700, while chained to a desk
> $>> in the scriptorium "Robert Weldon" <robo...@live.ca> wrote:
> $>>> $"The Doctor" <doc...@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca> wrote in message
> $>>> $news:jg1mhl$4j$1...@gallifrey.nk.ca...
> $>>> $> In article
> $>>> $>
> $>>> <82ff84b2-74a4-4eea...@qv4g2000pbc.googlegroups.com>,
> $>>> $> Mr.Smartypants <bunghol...@lycos.com> wrote: $>>On Jan 28,
> $>>> 9:14=A0am, John Fleming <nos...@sprynet.com> wrote: $>>> [Default]
> $>>> On Sat, 28 Jan 2012 05:57:46 -0800 (PST), while chained to a $>>>

> $>>> desk in the scriptorium solar penguin <solar.peng...@gmail.com>

> $>>> wrote: $>>> > $Duggy wrote: $>>> > $> On Jan 28, 11:07=A0pm,
> $>>> doc...@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The Doctor) wrote: $>>> > $> > In article
> $>>> $>>> > <294c4ea6-4750-420c-9e44-043b2bfef...@pt5g2000pbb.googl=
> $>>> $>>egroups.com>,

> $>>> $>>> > $> >
> $>>> $>>> > $> > Duggy =A0<p.allan.dug...@gmail.com> wrote:

> $>>> $>>> > $> > >On Jan 28, 12:24=3DA0am, doc...@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The
> $>>> Doctor) $>>> > wr=
> $>>> $>>ote:
> $>>> $>>> > $> > >> In article
> $>>> $>>> > <b875b850-5043-45cf-bdef-d169e145d...@pk8g2000pbb.go=
> $>>> $>>oglegroups=3D
> $>>> $>>> > $> > >.com>,

> $>>> $>>> > $> >
> $>>> $>>> > $> > >> Duggy =3DA0<p.allan.dug...@gmail.com> wrote:

> $>>> $>>> > $> > >> >On Jan 27, 2:07=3D3DA0pm, doc...@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca
> $>>> (The $>>> > Doctor=

> $>>> $>>) wrote:
> $>>> $>>> > $> >
> $>>> $>>> > $> > >> >> >You said "I have my doubts"

> $>>> $>>> > $> > >> >> That puupies were killed in TDTWaTW

> $>>> $>>> > $> >
> $>>> $>>> > $> > >> >What are puupies?
> $>>> $>>> > $> >
> $>>> $>>> > $> > >> Fixed.
> $>>> $>>> > $> >
> $>>> $>>> > $> > >> >> >Then again, you also think that The Widow is

> $>>> Asian for $>>> > some=
> $>>> $>> reason.
> $>>> $>>> > $> > >> >> And was established.

> $>>> $>>> > $> >
> $>>> $>>> > $> > >> >She looks white to me?
> $>>> $>>> > $> >
> $>>> $>>> > $> > >> You missed an article.
> $>>> $>>> > $> >
> $>>> $>>> > $> > >No way was she asian.
> $>>> $>>> > $> >
> $>>> $>>> > $> > Not in TDTWaTW.
> $>>> $>>> > $>
> $>>> $>>> > $> You're saying the Widow was Asian?
> $>>> $>>> > $>
> $>>> $>>> > $> How so?
> $>>> $>>> > $>
> $>>> $>>> > $
> $>>> $>>> > $Presumably some sort of racist thing about eating dogs.

> $>>> =A0That might $>>> > $explain her killing the puppies.

> $>>> $>>>
> $>>> $>>> As well, here in the western world, having someone kill

> $>>> puppies is a $>>> way of painting them as being somewhat evil.
> $>>> =A0Wasn't something like $>>> that one of the things that was used
> $>>> to make the villian a villiann $>>> "101 Dalmatians"? =A0The desire
> $>>> to get rid of the dogs? $>>> --

> $>>> $>>
> $>>> $>>Getting rid of the dogs wasn't the agenda. Turning them into an

> $>>> $>>overcoat was the plan.
> $>>> $>
> $>>> $>

> $>>> $> Lies chronic liar and satanic illuminati anti-Semitic bigot

> $>>> Mr.Smartypants $> .

> $>>> $>
> $>>> $> Mr.SmartyPAnts is a luser lurker stalker.
> $>>> $
> $>>> $Okay, how is that a lie, it is the basic plot of the movie.

> $>>
> $>> Since the subject has changed to 101 Dalmations, it isn't. The
> $>> doctor just has trouble following the conversation.
> $>
> $> Ther eis a difeerence between changed and hijacked.
> $
> $And there is a difference between the english language and your posts
> $
> $What's your point?

And the doctor is hardly the one to be deciding when a conversation
has changed and when a thread has been "hijacked".

[The Doctor]

In article <2m5pi71oqgpqc1am5...@4ax.com>,

Ever heard of Aslan John?

[PV]

Funny how you endorse Aslan but condemn Harry Potter, both stories about
witches and magic

[The Doctor]

In article <UIeXq.8016$9j5....@newsfe09.iad>,

Aslan is resurrected. Reminds you of someone?

[PV]

> Aslan is resurrected. Reminds you of someone?

Spare me your attempts to be coy, I have read the Narnia series several
times and I am well aware that it was C.S. Lewis attempt to explain theology
to his children

However you have failed (big surpise) to answer my question

[The Doctor]

In article <0JfXq.9909$236....@newsfe03.iad>,

And Lewis does a good job of it unlike Rawlings.

[PV]

> And Lewis does a good job of it unlike Rawlings.

Ummmmm Rowling (note the spelling) was not attempting to explain theology to
anyone but thanks for playing.

[The Doctor]

What do you expect from a sorceress?

[PV]

Your ignorance is shining brighter then a neon sign. Since you have never
read the Harry Potter series, how can you come up with this conclusion? Or
was it your "church" that declared her a "soceress"

[John Hall]

In article <jgk1i2$1j3$1...@gallifrey.nk.ca>,

The Doctor <doc...@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca> writes:
>In article <0JfXq.9909$236....@newsfe03.iad>,
>PV <edrnouser@ spam telus.net> wrote:

[snip]

>>
>>Spare me your attempts to be coy, I have read the Narnia series several
>>times and I am well aware that it was C.S. Lewis attempt to explain theology
>>to his children
>>
>>However you have failed (big surpise) to answer my question
>

>And Lewis does a good job of it unlike Rawlings.

But J.K. Rowling (not Rawlings) isn't trying to explain theology to
anyone. Unlike Lewis, she wasn't writing an allegory.
--
John Hall
"The power of accurate observation is commonly called cynicism
by those who have not got it."
George Bernard Shaw

[John Hall]

In article <jgk218$27h$1...@gallifrey.nk.ca>,

The Doctor <doc...@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca> writes:
>What do you expect from a sorceress?

You think that JK Rowling is a sorceress?! What is your evidence for
such a bizarre assertion?

[PV]

John Hall wrote:
> In article <jgk218$27h$1...@gallifrey.nk.ca>,
> The Doctor <doc...@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca> writes:
>> What do you expect from a sorceress?
>
> You think that JK Rowling is a sorceress?! What is your evidence for
> such a bizarre assertion?

Evidence...evidence.....The Doc don't need no evidence.

How can he maintain his state of blissful ignorance if he actually did some
research and maybe actually read Rowling's excellent series

[The Doctor]

In article <m4gXq.8493$wR2....@newsfe01.iad>,

OBviously you have not read Harry Potter critics.

[The Doctor]

In article <VvzRahLX3YLPFw$5...@jhall.demon.co.uk.invalid>,

Or continuing the religion of witchcraft.

[The Doctor]

In article <jeVM2AMM...@jhall.demon.co.uk.invalid>,

Harry Potter based on the religion of witchcraft.

[The Doctor]

In article <pfgXq.7617$nV5....@newsfe12.iad>,

PV <edrnouser@ spam telus.net> wrote:

PV wishes to ignore the obvious.

[PV]

> OBviously you have not read Harry Potter critics.

No I actually read the books, not some misguided fundamentalist claptrap
critics who never wrote a book in their lives.

Try it sometime before passing someone elses judgement for a change

[PV]

The Doctor wrote:
> In article <pfgXq.7617$nV5....@newsfe12.iad>,
> PV <edrnouser@ spam telus.net> wrote:
>> John Hall wrote:
>>> In article <jgk218$27h$1...@gallifrey.nk.ca>,
>>> The Doctor <doc...@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca> writes:
>>>> What do you expect from a sorceress?
>>>
>>> You think that JK Rowling is a sorceress?! What is your evidence for
>>> such a bizarre assertion?
>>
>> Evidence...evidence.....The Doc don't need no evidence.
>>
>> How can he maintain his state of blissful ignorance if he actually
>> did some research and maybe actually read Rowling's excellent series
>>
>>
>

> PV wishes to ignore the obvious.

So when did you read the series? How else can you reach a conclusion
without first reading the books?

[The Doctor]

In article <MeiXq.15485$E07....@newsfe10.iad>,

I doubt PV is a researcher.

[PV]

The Doctor wrote:
> In article <MeiXq.15485$E07....@newsfe10.iad>,
> PV <edrnouser@ spam telus.net> wrote:
>> The Doctor wrote:
>>> In article <m4gXq.8493$wR2....@newsfe01.iad>,

<snip for brevity>

>>>>
>>>
>>> OBviously you have not read Harry Potter critics.
>>
>> No I actually read the books, not some misguided fundamentalist
>> claptrap critics who never wrote a book in their lives.
>>
>> Try it sometime before passing someone elses judgement for a change
>>
>>
>

> I doubt PV is a researcher.

Well I am a hell of a lot better at it then you are. You have never read
the books, you have depended on someone else's opinion to form your own.

Keep wallowing in your ignorance there Doc

[The Doctor]

In article <HiiXq.9062$9j5....@newsfe09.iad>,

Broke the mirror this morning PV?

[PV]

The Doctor wrote:
> In article <HiiXq.9062$9j5....@newsfe09.iad>,
> PV <edrnouser@ spam telus.net> wrote:
>> The Doctor wrote:
>>> In article <MeiXq.15485$E07....@newsfe10.iad>,
>>> PV <edrnouser@ spam telus.net> wrote:
>>>> The Doctor wrote:
>>>>> In article <m4gXq.8493$wR2....@newsfe01.iad>,
>>
>> <snip for brevity>
>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> OBviously you have not read Harry Potter critics.
>>>>
>>>> No I actually read the books, not some misguided fundamentalist
>>>> claptrap critics who never wrote a book in their lives.
>>>>
>>>> Try it sometime before passing someone elses judgement for a change
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> I doubt PV is a researcher.
>>
>> Well I am a hell of a lot better at it then you are. You have never
>> read the books, you have depended on someone else's opinion to form
>> your own.
>>
>> Keep wallowing in your ignorance there Doc
>>
>

> Broke the mirror this morning PV?

You won't even deny it, when did you read Harry Potter? Simple question
putz, enough with the red herrings and misdirection.

[The Doctor]

In article <%niXq.9913$236....@newsfe03.iad>,

Get informed ignoramous PV.

http://www.pacinst.com/witch.htm

[PV]

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

You have got to be kidding me, some "ex-witch" is an authority? Dear sweet
mother of pearl, you really need to get out into the real world and away
from these loonies you hang with.

If this is the kind of "authority" you base your life on, I feel truly sorry
for you. Here is a radical idea, why don't you read the series for yourself
and make up your own mind

You do have a mind don't you and perhaps your are capable of independent
thought too.......aren't you? Aren't you?

[John Hall]

In article <jgkb0l$cv9$1...@gallifrey.nk.ca>,

The Doctor <doc...@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca> writes:
>In article <jeVM2AMM...@jhall.demon.co.uk.invalid>,
>John Hall <john_...@jhall.co.uk> wrote:
>>In article <jgk218$27h$1...@gallifrey.nk.ca>,
>> The Doctor <doc...@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca> writes:
>>>What do you expect from a sorceress?
>>
>>You think that JK Rowling is a sorceress?! What is your evidence for
>>such a bizarre assertion?
>

>Harry Potter based on the religion of witchcraft.

No it isn't. There is no suggestion in the books that witchcraft is a
religion. If anyone writing about magic is a magician, then presumably
J.R.R. Tolkien (a good friend of C.S. Lewis BTW), the Brothers Grimm and
Hans Christian Anderson, to name a few, were all wizards. Writing a work
of fiction in which there is working magic does not make you a magician,
any more than writing crime fiction makes you a criminal.

[The Doctor]

In article <WpoXq.12769$ak....@newsfe19.iad>,

PV has 0 capability of either inddependent nor discerning thinking.

[The Doctor]

In article <uiPPZeHk...@jhall.demon.co.uk.invalid>,

John Hall <john_...@jhall.co.uk> wrote:
>In article <jgkb0l$cv9$1...@gallifrey.nk.ca>,
> The Doctor <doc...@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca> writes:
>>In article <jeVM2AMM...@jhall.demon.co.uk.invalid>,
>>John Hall <john_...@jhall.co.uk> wrote:
>>>In article <jgk218$27h$1...@gallifrey.nk.ca>,
>>> The Doctor <doc...@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca> writes:
>>>>What do you expect from a sorceress?
>>>
>>>You think that JK Rowling is a sorceress?! What is your evidence for
>>>such a bizarre assertion?
>>
>>Harry Potter based on the religion of witchcraft.
>
>No it isn't. There is no suggestion in the books that witchcraft is a
>religion. If anyone writing about magic is a magician, then presumably
>J.R.R. Tolkien (a good friend of C.S. Lewis BTW), the Brothers Grimm and
>Hans Christian Anderson, to name a few, were all wizards. Writing a work
>of fiction in which there is working magic does not make you a magician,
>any more than writing crime fiction makes you a criminal.
>--
>John Hall
> "The power of accurate observation is commonly called cynicism
> by those who have not got it."
> George Bernard Shaw

So why does Lewis NOT give Aslan any magic powers?

[The Doctor]

In article <chine.bleu-9ACA3...@news.eternal-september.org>,

Devil with the China Blue Dress <chine...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>In article <uiPPZeHk...@jhall.demon.co.uk.invalid>,

> John Hall <nospam...@jhall.co.uk> wrote:
>
>> In article <jgkb0l$cv9$1...@gallifrey.nk.ca>,
>> The Doctor <doc...@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca> writes:
>> >In article <jeVM2AMM...@jhall.demon.co.uk.invalid>,
>> >John Hall <john_...@jhall.co.uk> wrote:
>> >>In article <jgk218$27h$1...@gallifrey.nk.ca>,
>> >> The Doctor <doc...@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca> writes:
>> >>>What do you expect from a sorceress?
>> >>
>> >>You think that JK Rowling is a sorceress?! What is your evidence for
>> >>such a bizarre assertion?
>> >
>> >Harry Potter based on the religion of witchcraft.
>>
>> No it isn't. There is no suggestion in the books that witchcraft is a
>

>'Witch' has a number of different and distinct meanings (poisonner, pagan,
>satanist, native skill). Without pinning down which witch you're talking about,
>the discussion is certainly going to be muddled.
>
>--
>My name Indigo Montoya. | It's Coraline, not Caroline.
>You flamed my father. | I'm whoever you want me to be.
>Prepare to be spanked. | Annoying Usenet one post at a time.
>Stop posting that! | At least I can stay in character.

What about Wicca?

[John Hall]

In article <jgluaq$jpn$1...@gallifrey.nk.ca>,

The Doctor <doc...@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca> writes:
>In article <uiPPZeHk...@jhall.demon.co.uk.invalid>,
>John Hall <john_...@jhall.co.uk> wrote:
>>In article <jgkb0l$cv9$1...@gallifrey.nk.ca>,
>> The Doctor <doc...@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca> writes:
>>>In article <jeVM2AMM...@jhall.demon.co.uk.invalid>,
>>>John Hall <john_...@jhall.co.uk> wrote:
>>>>In article <jgk218$27h$1...@gallifrey.nk.ca>,
>>>> The Doctor <doc...@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca> writes:
>>>>>What do you expect from a sorceress?
>>>>
>>>>You think that JK Rowling is a sorceress?! What is your evidence for
>>>>such a bizarre assertion?
>>>
>>>Harry Potter based on the religion of witchcraft.
>>
>>No it isn't. There is no suggestion in the books that witchcraft is a
>>religion. If anyone writing about magic is a magician, then presumably
>>J.R.R. Tolkien (a good friend of C.S. Lewis BTW), the Brothers Grimm and
>>Hans Christian Anderson, to name a few, were all wizards. Writing a work
>>of fiction in which there is working magic does not make you a magician,
>>any more than writing crime fiction makes you a criminal.
>

>So why does Lewis NOT give Aslan any magic powers?

Because it suited his purpose not to? (Though some of us might think
that rising from the dead is pretty magical, being something that
appears incapable of being explained by science, which is pretty much
the definition of "magical".)

[John Hall]

In article <jglu9f$hg7$1...@gallifrey.nk.ca>,

>PV has 0 capability of either inddependent nor discerning thinking.

You're basing your argument on some webpage that you came across, not
having read Rowling's books yourself. So in what way are /you/ showing
independent or discerning thinking? You're thinking what some
fundamentalist Christian has told you to think.

[PV]

> PV has 0 capability of either inddependent nor discerning thinking.

Pretty rich coming from someone who allows others to make his decisions for
him

So when did you read the series? You still haven't answered this most basic
question

[The Doctor]

In article <IZImamDk...@jhall.demon.co.uk.invalid>,

I t is called discerning research.

A good example is http://www.cuttingedge.org/

Many a fundamrntalist would be upset.

[The Doctor]

In article <2oh5GMED...@jhall.demon.co.uk.invalid>,

Getting close. What was Lewis trying to do?

[The Doctor]

In article <g5yXq.5737$j%3....@newsfe04.iad>,

The truth hurts eh PV!