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Martin

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Aug 7, 2006, 12:49:33 PM8/7/06
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A few years ago a neighbour who had a lung problem claimed difficulty in
getting up and down the stairs to her (purchased ex council ) flat. She was
allocated rented sheltered housing and gleefully sold her flat. Another
neighbour in similar straits was also given rented sheltered housing and
gave her flat to a relative to live in. This seems a strange situation when
we hear of pensioners having to sell their homes to pay for residential
care.
Martin.

Zimmy

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Aug 8, 2006, 9:52:18 AM8/8/06
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"Martin" <mar...@lsomething.com> wrote in message
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The other day I saw a man gratuitously watering his lawn with a hosepipe.
This seems a strange situation when we hear of hosepipe bans. ;-)

Z


Graeme Wood

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Aug 8, 2006, 2:02:14 PM8/8/06
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There isn't a hosepipe ban in Edinburgh.

PhantomWombat

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Aug 8, 2006, 2:26:37 PM8/8/06
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On Mon, 7 Aug 2006 17:49:33 +0100, "Martin" <mar...@lsomething.com>
wrote:

Local Authorities (and RSLs) in Scotland aren't meant to take into
account the income of an applicant (or family), or whether they own or
have owned any Heritable Property when allocating housing (see
http://www.scotland.gov.uk/library3/housing/hlaa-00.asp, Section 22
for Scottish Executive Guidance on the relevant legislation). Of
course, the ownership of other property, or the proceeds of its sale,
is likely to affect entitlement to housing Benefit, etc.

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Ronald Raygun

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Aug 8, 2006, 5:13:19 PM8/8/06
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Graeme Wood wrote:

Martin seems to be confusing sheltered housing with residential care.
They are not the same thing. AIUI sheltered housing is almost like
ordinary flats but with a factotum (janitor/handiman/guard/first-aider)
on hand to deal with any problems, while residential care includes
round the clock intensive support for feeding, nappy changing, etc, and
is rather more like a hospital with private rooms. The latter is the
expensive stuff which people could be expected to sell their home for
to help fund. The former is relatively cheap.

So I think Zimmy has hit the nail on the head. "we hear of hosepipe
bans" but there aren't any, just as "we hear of pensioners having to
sell their homes", but they generally wouldn't be expected to do so
to pay for cheap sheltered housing, only for expensive residential care.

Martin

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Aug 8, 2006, 5:37:05 PM8/8/06
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"PhantomWombat" <wrbru...@PANTSclara.co.uk> wrote in message
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Seems to be worded in the usual careful PC way not to offend or
discriminate against anyone. It used to be virtually impossible to get on
to the housing list and applicants had to have lived in the city for at
least two years. We were in that category when we returned to Edinburgh to
live around 1960 and could not get on to the waiting list. Need did not come
into it in those days and my unmarried uncle was literally evicted from the
house he had lived in all his life when his mother (the tenant) died.
A few years ago a self employed 'Painter and Decorator' I know wanted to
move from Glasgow to Edinburgh and did not have to wait to be allocated a
council house here as people in his line of work were evidently needed here.
He soon used his right to buy using his years as a Glasgow council tenant to
get a big discount. He has now sold the house and bought one in one of the
better parts of Glasgow.
Martin


Zimmy

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Aug 9, 2006, 4:01:41 AM8/9/06
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"Graeme Wood" <Graem...@REMOVE.ed.ac.uk.THIS> wrote in message
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Oh really? That was my point. Just because you hear the news from London
doesn't mean it applies here.

Z


angus_...@hotmail.com

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Aug 9, 2006, 7:51:24 AM8/9/06
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> Oh really? That was my point. Just because you hear the news from London
> doesn't mean it applies here.

In this case it doesn't.

Rather than having a plethora of private water companies in Scotland
with a poorly maintained network of pipes, we just have Scottish Water,
regulated by the Scottish Government, not OFWAT. A completely different
situation. Nor do we have a relatively overpopulated country drinking
the land dry through a poorly maintained network: quite the opposite.

FYI, the only place in Scotland I can ever remember having hosepipe
bans was Galloway, and that was decades ago -- but Galloway could be a
very dry spot in the summer from what I can remember; forest fires were
common.

Angus

The Tattie Howker

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Aug 15, 2006, 7:38:20 AM8/15/06
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angus_...@hotmail.com wrote:
>>Oh really? That was my point. Just because you hear the news from London
>>doesn't mean it applies here.
>
>
> In this case it doesn't.
>
> Rather than having a plethora of private water companies

Yes, the same ones who waste more water than the hose pipe ban would
save while racking up hundreds of millions in profits.

> in Scotland
> with a poorly maintained network of pipes, we just have Scottish Water,
> regulated by the Scottish Government, not OFWAT. A completely different
> situation. Nor do we have a relatively overpopulated country drinking
> the land dry through a poorly maintained network: quite the opposite.
>
> FYI, the only place in Scotland I can ever remember having hosepipe
> bans was Galloway, and that was decades ago -- but Galloway could be a
> very dry spot in the summer from what I can remember; forest fires were
> common.

Weren't there hose bans in the heatwave of '76 or am I just remembering
the London news?

TTH

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