In conclusion, this turn to the collective that the emergence of peer to peer represent does not in any way present a loss of individuality, even of individualism. Rather it ‘transcends and includes’ individualism and collectivism in a new unity, which I would like to call ‘cooperative individualism’. The cooperativity is not necessarily intentional (i.e. the result of conscious altruism), but constitutive of our being, and the best applications of P2P, are based on this idea.
Michel Bauwens, June 2006
Hi Dante,Firstly, note that http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dining_philosophers_problem is a theoretical quandry for computer scientists more than ethicists etc. It's more of an examination question than a moral dilemma AFAIK.
what would an "altruists" response be ? to the following context...
When all agents are interdependent, what is altruism ? Tuning into an
understanding that would maximize mutual empowerment ? win-win-win ?
Asymmetry helps to handle this. The first way to handle that springs to my mind (perhaps because I'm influenced by thinking the repationship between commons and current property relationships) is that each resource in 'common use' has a 'priority owner', who has 'superuser' rights to override any other requests, should she choose to exercise it. So it's available for public use until the owner needs it. If someone else is already using it, and you think your need is greater, contact the superuser (owner). They then have a call to give you priority.
It gets more complex for cases where a large item of property is made up of multiple other people's items of property (e.g. my wheels fitted onto your car body, who gets to have a call...) but this is resolvable in priciple (e.g. we agree when we constitute the larger object and make it available for others).
Robin
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From: Dante-Gabryell Monson<dante....@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, Jul 5, 2010 at 5:03 PM
Subject: Sharing of Resources : when multiple users need exclusive access to
shared resources
To: esk...@hacklaviva.net
Cc: Alex Rollin<alex....@gmail.com>, Samuel Rose<samue...@gmail.com>
Hi Marc ( cc: Alex )
In relation to PPP
http://www.publicprivateproperty.org/wiki/Main_Page
I realized this could be an interesting situation :
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dining_philosophers_problem
" In general the dining philosophers problem is a generic and abstract
problem used for explaining various issues which arise in problems whichin the branch of Concurrent Programming<http://wiki/Concurrent_Programming>.
various kinds of failures these philosophers may experience are analogous to
the difficulties that arise in real computer programming when multiple
programs need exclusive access to shared resources. These issues are studied
"
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From: Dante-Gabryell Monson<dante....@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, Jul 5, 2010 at 4:55 PM
Subject: collaborative financial interface ? Re: (con)currency of users
To: Samuel Rose<samue...@gmail.com>
Cc: agile-...@googlegroups.com, econ...@googlegroups.com
Thanks Sam.
Could we start with a smaller amount of users, which would "play" with a
protocol they can choose to use ?
And , unless it is used through a non digital interface such as some kind of
board game,
can we make the data related to such use of the protocols accessible,
so that that users can build on each other,
such as with wiki's,
while also enable what has been built to use as "circuits"?
In effect, creating some kind of collaborative "interface" for financial
transactions ?
On Mon, Jul 5, 2010 at 4:49 PM, Samuel Rose<samue...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Mon, Jul 5, 2010 at 10:34 AM, Dante-Gabryell Monson
<dante....@gmail.com> wrote:
In effect, I imagine that we can design simple principles ( protocols ? )I've participated in several communities where we've thought of
that enable
an operating system
"of" users
that enables "concurrency"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Concurrency_(computer_science)
"facilitated" by tools mediated by ICT... ?
similar things in the past. It's a vision that probably goes back to
the first networked computers.
What you imagine is possible only if everyone adopts some way of being
a participant which is interoperable with most other participants.
This ecology must first exist before the any architecture or meta
computational paradigm can emerge.
Thus, I still maintain that the primary mission is creating a way for
any single system to talk to others in an understandable way (adopt
some standard/protocol or make one and use it).
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