Can you use an RB-530 box with E-Run?
Evertox
I am having problems running an .ebs file with an SRbox configured. It
runs ok using E-Studio v1.1.
Installing just the drivers and E-Run on a Windows XP PC produces an
error.
Thanks
Anthony McGuffie
Michiel Spape
Is the RB-530 the PST SRBox? We're not PST over here, so a few details would be welcome:
- What is the RB-530? If it is indeed the PST SRBox, I can most definitely confirm that E-Run runs everything, including Boxes, that E-Studio runs.
- How did you manage to install E-Run BUT NOT E-Prime? Try to install the whole deal, see if that works. I believe PST offers some kind of package to run E-Prime experiments without having the full E-Prime package installed, but E-Run is just the thing that comes with E-Prime.
Best,
Mich
Michiel Spapé
Research Fellow
Perception & Action group
University of Nottingham
School of Psychology
www.cognitology.eu
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Evertox
The RB-530 is a response pad supplied by Cedrus.
http://www.cedrus.com/responsepads/rb_series.htm.
There seem to be quite a few users on this forum who use this unit
with E-Prime so a full explanation was ommitted.
I install E-RUN on an individual PC just to run the experiments whilst
freeing up my dongle to continue developing.
It can be installed using the 'Subject Station' option from the E-
Prime installation CD (see User Guide).
The box works ok with E-Studio installed but not with E-Run but does
not make sense as the drivers install ok but when tesing with
Hyperterminal producers a 'port already in use' error.
Everything matches the script in the .ebs file (Comm Port 3, Baudrate
19200,n,8,1)
Cheers
Tony
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Oops, I should indeed have known - I'm even using one myself! I did find the driver installation to be a pain, however, especially if you have followed the latest (renewed, last September) one: installation requires running de-installation and 3 different pieces of software. I'm not sure about the state of dongles, but isn't your dongle only required for installation, not running? Or is that a different thing with site licenses? The version I download (1.1 is the only one I've seen on CD, but I really recommend 1.2) only requires the dongle during installation.
"The box works ok with E-Studio installed but not with E-Run but does not make sense as the drivers install ok but when tesing with Hyperterminal producers a 'port already in use' error."
Erm, sorry, you lost me there. If you mean 'in E-Run with E-Studio installed but not with only E-Run installed', I understand and agree this is weird - since it acts as if it is a genuine PST SRBox, it should be as available in your set-up as the SRBox. However, if you mean 'with E-Studio installed and running (from E-Studio) but not with (running it from) E-Run', then: I'd like to confirm that the RB530 can most definitely be used in just E-Run (I do); but I'm not sure whether you can run it in E-Run without having installed E-Studio.
Best,
Mich
PS: Yes, so I skip the 'how to install' bits from this and most manuals (apart from the Cedrus , quite bad I admit, and also don't read the license agreement.
Hi Michiel,
Cheers
Tony
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David McFarlane
>I install E-RUN on an individual PC just to run the experiments whilst
>freeing up my dongle to continue developing.
>
>It can be installed using the 'Subject Station' option from the E-
>Prime installation CD (see User Guide).
Sigh. This bit of misunderstanding seems to never go away. Let me
try once again to set this straight. Doing a "Subject Station"
installation of EP does *not* free up a dongle to continue
developing, for the simple reason that doing a full installation of
EP does not *tie up* a dongle in the first place. You may do a full
installation of EP on as many machines as you like within your
lab. Whichever of those machines has the hardware key ("dongle") at
that moment can be used as the development machine, any others work
in effect as subject and data stations. Let me repeat
that: E-Studio is the only application of the E-Prime suite that
requires the hardware key in order to run; all the others (E-Run,
E-DataAid, E-Merge, etc.) will run without the hardware key. Having
E-Studio installed on a subject station does not interfere at all
with its use as a subject station, to the contrary it only means that
it could be pressed into service as a development station at any moment.
Thus, doing a Subject Station installation provides no benefit
whatsoever, and from what I see on the message boards actually
introduces problems that could be avoided with a full
installation. I see no reason for ever doing a Subject Station
installation -- if you simply do a full installation on every machine
in sight, then you can use them all as subject and data stations,
with the flexibility that at any moment any of them can be pressed
into service as a development station merely by plugging in the hardware key.
We have use EP around here for over decade and have installed it on
over a hundred machines, we have *never* done a Subject Station
installation and that has never caused a problem for us.
-- David McFarlane, Professional Faultfinder
Evertox
Ever since I bought 2 E-Prime dongles in 2004, i was under the
impression that E-Run was designed to be installed on multiple PC's to
execute experiments in Labs etc. (A likeness to using a Visual Basic
Runtime engine). This kept installation files to a minimum, reduced
confusion for student lab sessions and allowed external participants
without E-Prime to use the compiled .ebs files.
Using this method ensured we reduced any licencing issues that may
arise.
An email from PST at the time ( i have just dug-out) explained the
Runtime only methods available (shown below).
Anthony,
Access to download the E-Prime Runtime software is only available to
users whom purchased a separate E-Prime Runtime license and have a
valid E-Prime Runtime serial number. The cost of an E-Prime Runtime
only license is $100. If you have the E-Prime v1.x CD then you can
just install the run time only portion (E-Run) called the Subject
Station Installation from the CD. Instructions on how to proceed are
located on page 2 of the E-Prime User's Guide. Please note you must
have the hardware connected to the port during installation. Once
installed you no longer need to have the hardware key connected to run
subjects.
Sincerely,
Debbie Gilkey
Technical Consultant
I have only recently experienced problems with the E-Run only version
as the department has purchased a number of the Cedrus Response boxes
and they seem to work only with the full version installed - hence the
original question.
I appreciate your explanation of the program functionality and look
forward to correspondance in the future.
Anthony McGuffie
Coventry University