Stopping Entered Text disappearing off screen
Evertox
I asked a question last week regarding a TextDisplay WordWrap problem.
Does anybody have a script to ensure a participants text entered is
ALL shown on the screen.
I do not want to change the screen resolution or font size to achieve
this.
I am trying a few methods based on the InputMask and EchoClient
objects but have not succeeded so far.
I need something fairly quickly and would appreciate assistance.
Anthony McGuffie
Coventry University
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Michiel Spape
Could you explain a bit more as to what exactly your problem is? Is text left and right disappearing from the screen (say, from every line of text), or do you just try to fit more text on a screen than can be displayed (such that the last bits of text at the very end are cut off)? Or, finally, is the problem that no new-lines are entered into the textdisplay echo (if you're using that)?
The first possible issue, which could conceivably be your problem, usually happens because the monitor isn't correctly configured to display 640x480 resolutions (a rather ancient - say, windows 3.1 - default resolution). To do something about that, just run your experiment and fiddle with the monitor until the width and height are actually within the scope of the screen.
Obviously, the second of these issues cannot magically be resolved; I mean, given that you're using a full-screen text display, it can only contain so much text before there's no more screen left. Changing font-size or resolution will, as said, fix that problem, as would some implementation of 'press N for next page'; but apart from that, a box can only contain so many objects before the contents will spill over, so to say.
The third issue, word-wrap itself being the problem, might be resolved by manually (as in, with some code) adding new-lines to the text. I suppose that can't be too hard. Dump this in an empty experiment as an inline and run to see what I mean
-----------
dim inputstring as string
dim outputstring as string
dim previousnum as integer
dim i as integer
inputstring = "This is an example string"
previousnum = 1
for i = 6 to len(inputstring) step 5
outputstring = outputstring & mid(inputstring, previousnum, 5) & "\n"
previousnum = i
next i
debug.print outputstring
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Output:
This
is an
exam
ple s
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How's that? This piece of code converts the inputstring to a rather crudely cut outputstring, by adding new lines after every 5th letter. Of course, you'd need to find out how many letters fit on the screen, then adjusting 'step 5' to 'step howmanyletters' and 'for i = 6' to 'for I = howmanyletters + 1'
Best,
Mich
Michiel Spapé
Research Fellow
Perception & Action group
University of Nottingham
School of Psychology
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dim inputstring as string
dim outputstring as string
dim previousnum as integer
dim i as integer
inputstring = "This is an example string"
previousnum = 1
for i = 6 to len(inputstring) step 5
outputstring = outputstring & mid(inputstring, previousnum, 5) & "\n"
previousnum = i
next i
outputstring = outputstring & mid(inputstring, previousnum, 1+len(inputstring)-previousnum)
debug.print outputstring
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Output:
This
is an
exam
ple s
tring
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Evertox
First off, i cannot upload an example file to the files section so it
is on the pstnet forum - http://support.pstnet.com/forum/Topic671-5-1.aspx
I am using the TextDisplay Echo option recording participants thoughts
for 5 minuites and showing them what thae have typed just like a word
document.
Everything works except for a CR and LF at the end of the screen so
they cannot see what they have typed.
As Quoted by Matt Lenhrart at PST in this thread------"make sure the
"Word Wrap" box is checked so that long responses will not go off-
screen (i.e. they will simply move down to the next line)."
Cheers
Anthony McGuffie
On Jul 19, 3:58 pm, Michiel Spape <Michiel.Sp...@nottingham.ac.uk>
wrote:
Michiel Spape
First off, to cite David McFarlane, " I do not work for PST.", a bit of effort spent on clarity would be much appreciated. What is CR / LF? I looked at the file, but it's an e-prime 2 file, so I can't do much about it (I only have e-prime 1 here). I tried using an Echo object on a simple display object in E-Prime 1 and it seems to do the word-wrap correctly.
If you like, you could also run a text-display in a little loop to do exactly the same as the echo function; i.e., just enter a Label (let's say, Label1) just before the text display, set the text display's max count to 1 again, duration to 10 ms (or something) and check the response. Say, the textdisplay is called TextDisplay1, then use something like:
If TextDisplay1.RESP <> {ENTER} then
TextDisplay1.TEXT = TextDisplay1.TEXT & TextDisplay1.RESP
Goto Label1
End if
If word-wrap works for a normal textdisplay, then it ought to work for this as well. If it doesn't... perhaps a bug in your version of e-prime?
Sorry if I can't be of much more help - lacking E-Prime2, I expect somebody else might be of more use.
Evertox
I appreciate your knowledge and assistance and I understand this is a
small subject group for user support.
I am having a problem uploading files to this Group for user viewing.
I used to be able to do this a while back.
I have sent the example file to PST support for troubleshooting and
just wanted to ask if anyone was aware of this issue.
CR and LF is the old Carriage Return and Line Feed (Return). It is
mentioned in the help files.
I have used both EP1(Service Pack 3) and EP2 to test this problem. I
will upload a EP1 sample version to the PST forum for others to view.
Cheers
Anthony McGuffie
On Jul 19, 5:13 pm, Michiel Spape <Michiel.Sp...@nottingham.ac.uk>
wrote:
> First off, to cite David McFarlane, " I do not work for PST.", a bit of effort spent on clarity would be much appreciated. What is CR / LF? I looked at the file, but it's an e-prime 2 file, so I can't do much about it (I only have e-prime 1 here). I tried using an Echo object on a simple display object in E-Prime 1 and it seems to do the word-wrap correctly.
>
> If you like, you could also run a text-display in a little loop to do exactly the same as the echo function; i.e., just enter a Label (let's say, Label1) just before the text display, set the text display's max count to 1 again, duration to 10 ms (or something) and check the response. Say, the textdisplay is called TextDisplay1, then use something like:
>
> If TextDisplay1.RESP <> {ENTER} then
> TextDisplay1.TEXT = TextDisplay1.TEXT & TextDisplay1.RESP
> Goto Label1
> End if
>
> If word-wrap works for a normal textdisplay, then it ought to work for this as well. If it doesn't... perhaps a bug in your version of e-prime?
>
> Sorry if I can't be of much more help - lacking E-Prime2, I expect somebody else might be of more use.
> Best,
> Mich
>
> Michiel Spapé
> Research Fellow
> Perception & Action group
> University of Nottingham
> School of Psychology
>
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> Hi Michiel,
>
> First off, i cannot upload an example file to the files section so it
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Evertox
the problem.
Unlike Microsoft Word and NotePad, the wordwrap option in E-Prime
requires a SPACE inserted on each line.
Cheers
Anthony McGuffie
On Jul 19, 6:19 pm, Michiel Spape <Michiel.Sp...@nottingham.ac.uk>
mvinski
David McFarlane
break strings for wrapping only at white
space. So if a string has no white space, it
will not wrap but just get cut off. E.g.,
suppose the Echo window is 10 characters wide by
3 high, and the subject may enter up to 30 characters. If the subject types
0123456789ABCD
Then the Echo will show
0123456789
But if the subject types
0123456789 ABCD
Then the Echo will show
0123456789
ABCD
Hope that helps.
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