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Date: Wed, 20 May 2009 13:42:27 -0700
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Subject: Re: [DV-L] Long term storage
From: "Alex G." <alex...@gmail.com>
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What if we forget the individual hard drives and think of archival
appliances like Drobo?
Benefits: connects to anything (USB, LAN, FW800), fairly low cost, fail-safe
with automatic defect discovery and data
recovery, fantastic data protection capabilities (equal or better than those
of RAID6, according to Drobo), i.e. protection from dual drive failure.

One of the really really neat features is the expansion capability:
replace the individual drive(s)
with larger one(s), (one at a time) it keeps
working, and once the volume is rebuilt, the larger capacity is
available immediately.

(I am not trying to sell it - in fact, we don't sell them. :))

Isn't this type of an appliance just perfect for long-term archiving?
 Redundant, large capacities, no manual intervention, i.e. no disc changing,
very easy to duplicate for off-site redundancy, fairly low cost, easy
expansion.  Neither optical media nor individual hard disks, nor even
popular redundant arrays have all of those features, and certainly not at
that cost.

Alex.


On Sun, Feb 22, 2009 at 1:57 PM, Joe Parker <joepark...@gmail.com> wrote:

>
> But both have a tendency to fail suddenly and without warning, unlike
> tapes - especially old analog tapes. Anyway, we're still shooting
> mostly SD, so again this season we'll mostly be doing project archives
> to DVD-R, and holding the project on a hard drive as long as we can
> after delivery. I'd really like to get the boss to understand the
> difference between *archival* HDD's and *work* HDD's. And the need to
> have both.

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What if we forget the=A0individual hard drives and think of archival applia=
nces like Drobo?<div><br></div><div>Benefits: connects to anything (USB, LA=
N, FW800), fairly low cost, fail-safe with=A0automatic=A0defect=A0discovery=
 and data recovery,=A0fantastic=A0data=A0protection=A0capabilities (equal o=
r better than those of RAID6, according to Drobo), i.e. protection from dua=
l drive failure.</div>
<div><br></div><div>One=A0of=A0the=A0really=A0really=A0neat=A0features=A0is=
=A0the=A0expansion=A0capability:=A0replace=A0the=A0individual=A0drive(s) wi=
th larger one(s), (one at a time) it keeps working,=A0and=A0once=A0the=A0vo=
lume=A0is=A0rebuilt,=A0the=A0larger=A0capacity=A0is=A0available=A0immediate=
ly.</div>
<div><br></div><div>(I=A0am=A0not=A0trying=A0to=A0sell=A0it=A0-=A0in=A0fact=
,=A0we=A0don&#39;t=A0sell=A0them.=A0:))</div><div><br></div><div>Isn&#39;t =
this type of an appliance just perfect for long-term archiving? =A0Redundan=
t, large capacities, no manual intervention, i.e. no disc changing, very ea=
sy to duplicate for off-site redundancy, fairly low cost, easy expansion. =
=A0Neither optical media nor individual hard disks, nor even popular redund=
ant arrays have all of those features, and certainly not at that cost.</div=
>
<div><br></div><div>Alex.</div><div><br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On S=
un, Feb 22, 2009 at 1:57 PM, Joe Parker <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"ma=
ilto:joepark...@gmail.com">joepark...@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><b=
lockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px =
#ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">
<br>But both have a tendency to fail suddenly and without warning, unlike<b=
r>
tapes - especially old analog tapes. Anyway, we&#39;re still shooting<br>
mostly SD, so again this season we&#39;ll mostly be doing project archives<=
br>
to DVD-R, and holding the project on a hard drive as long as we can<br>
after delivery. I&#39;d really like to get the boss to understand the<br>
difference between *archival* HDD&#39;s and *work* HDD&#39;s. And the need =
to<br>
have both.</blockquote></div></div>

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