18Ardennes Mining Rights

[Scott Petersen]

I'm sure we've been playing this right, but the rules do not explicitly say that Minor #7 should take the Mining Rights when it is started.  In fact, the rules only say that the company gets the token by "paying the normal cost for a station token (f.40 or f.100)."  Considering one of the four cases where the token may be taken is not covered by this wording, I think this could be said more explicitly.

Also, minor niggle, but how should we track that a company has Mining Rights for a specific city (Charleroi or Saarbrucken)?  I know they will have the token, but how do we know which one it is for?  Possibly each of the two cities could have differently marked MR tokens?  I also might like some marker that shows that the city is a MR city that could stay on the board for the whole game.  Once the MR tokens are gone, it is confusing at first about which is the mining city (same with the fort bonuses too, I guess).  None of this has been a problem thus far and I won't shed a tear if it's not addressed.

Also Section 6.2.2 has repeated words ("to return").
"If, as a result of such an exchange, the Public Company is in excess of the current train limit, it chooses which trains to discard in order to return to return to the train limit."

[Mark Geary]

On 3 Feb 2010, at 12:41 AM, Scott Petersen wrote:

> Also, minor niggle, but how should we track that a company has
> Mining Rights for a specific city (Charleroi or Saarbrucken)? I
> know they will have the token, but how do we know which one it is
> for? Possibly each of the two cities could have differently marked
> MR tokens? I also

I like to leave the mine token on the board and stack the company's
token on top of it. This has the added benefit that I will be less
likely to forget to count the city as double when I'm running trains
for the company.

Mark Geary

[Scott Petersen]

On Tue, Feb 2, 2010 at 11:54 PM, Mark Geary <ge...@acm.org> wrote:

I like to leave the mine token on the board and stack the company's token on top of it. This has the added benefit that I will be less likely to forget to count the city as double when I'm running trains for the company.

Great idea, Mark.

[David G.D. Hecht]

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Subject: [dtg-proto] 18Ardennes Mining Rights

I'm sure we've been playing this right, but the rules do not explicitly say that Minor #7 should take the Mining Rights when it is started.  In fact, the rules only say that the company gets the token by "paying the normal cost for a station token (f.40 or f.100)."  Considering one of the four cases where the token may be taken is not covered by this wording, I think this could be said more explicitly.

(DH) OK, thanx.

Also, minor niggle, but how should we track that a company has Mining Rights for a specific city (Charleroi or Saarbrucken)?  I know they will have the token, but how do we know which one it is for?  Possibly each of the two cities could have differently marked MR tokens?  I also might like some marker that shows that the city is a MR city that could stay on the board for the whole game.  Once the MR tokens are gone, it is confusing at first about which is the mining city (same with the fort bonuses too, I guess).  None of this has been a problem thus far and I won't shed a tear if it's not addressed.

(DH) Well, presumably you can tell by seeing which city your own token is in. The problem with an extra marker is that it requires the rule to be rewritten--as it is, it is a simple substitution process. But I shall ponder the issue.

 

(DH) As to the forts, you do realize that once you pick up the marker, its provenance is completely irrelevant--the only thing that counts is being connected (not necessarily running to!) Paris, Strasbourg, or both?

Also Section 6.2.2 has repeated words ("to return").
"If, as a result of such an exchange, the Public Company is in excess of the current train limit, it chooses which trains to discard in order to return to return to the train limit."

(DH) OK, thanx.

 

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[Scott Petersen]

On Wed, Feb 3, 2010 at 6:48 AM, David G.D. Hecht <bar...@earthlink.net> wrote:

(DH) As to the forts, you do realize that once you pick up the marker, its provenance is completely irrelevant--the only thing that counts is being connected (not necessarily running to!) Paris, Strasbourg, or both?

Yes, the comment was more related Strasbourg because that one gets covered by tiles and the bonus could be forgotten.  Paris obviously has a unique tile, so this isn't such a problem.