More 18Kit Rules Questions
CraigBee
7. It is a fascinating game. We ran into a few rules questions I am
hoping can be answered. I've search the group and found a few
answers, here are the ones that remain unanswered:
Boss Tweed: If one does not pay does the company does NOTHING? I.e.
not only does the company not lay track, no token, no running trains,
no buying trains? If the company can not buy a train, does this
relieve the company from owning a train if it doesn't have one?
Neither of us bought Boss Tweed because we couldn't find any value in
it. What are we missing?
On a size 5 or 6 map, there are no corporations, therefore no stock
rounds. Does this mean priority deal NEVER changes throughout the
game?
If two minor companies have mining tokens and they are both merged
into a corporation, what happens to the mining tokens? Does the
company keep both? Get to sell one? Lose one to the bank pool? Does
this change if they own the Union Mining private company? Also, same
questions for the agriculture tokens.
If Company A forms, and has direct connectivity to Minor Company 1,
and Minor Company 1 has direct connectivity to Minor Company 2, but
Company A's connectivity to Minor Company 2 is blocked by Minor
Company 1's token, can both Minor Company 1 and 2 be merged into
Company A when it forms?
When a Company forms, must it buy a token, or can it just use the
merged Minor Company tokens?
Can a Minor Company be merged into a forming corporation, even if that
Minor Company just formed in the same formation phase?
Thanks,
Craig
j...@deepthoughtgames.com
> We played two two-player games yesterday; one with 5 tiles, one with
> 7. It is a fascinating game. We ran into a few rules questions I am
> hoping can be answered. I've search the group and found a few
> answers, here are the ones that remain unanswered:
>
> Boss Tweed: If one does not pay does the company does NOTHING? I.e.
> not only does the company not lay track, no token, no running trains,
> no buying trains? If the company can not buy a train, does this
> relieve the company from owning a train if it doesn't have one?
> Neither of us bought Boss Tweed because we couldn't find any value in
> it. What are we missing?
Well, it does have a nice bonus, although it is rather expensive. I have
played 3 games and tried buying it once, and I felt like the benefits were
outweighed by the cost. However, Todd has repeatedly said in their group
it is considered strong and they had to increase the cost to balance it.
I guess when I play Todd at CRGC I can have him show me how it is used.
If the president is unable to pay the fee, the company does not operate
and therefore it is not required to own a train. I suppose that could be
used tactically if you don't have a train.
> On a size 5 or 6 map, there are no corporations, therefore no stock
> rounds. Does this mean priority deal NEVER changes throughout the
> game?
Without stock rounds, priority does not matter.
However, we have decided that the game is uninteresting with only minor
companies, so that will be changed -- basically the small map options will
be eiminated.
> If two minor companies have mining tokens and they are both merged
> into a corporation, what happens to the mining tokens? Does the
> company keep both? Get to sell one? Lose one to the bank pool? Does
> this change if they own the Union Mining private company? Also, same
> questions for the agriculture tokens.
The extra token goes back to the bank and is available for purchase. Even
if the company owns the private, the private receives the payment when a
token is purchased from the bank (so in effect it could be sold twice).
> If Company A forms, and has direct connectivity to Minor Company 1,
> and Minor Company 1 has direct connectivity to Minor Company 2, but
> Company A's connectivity to Minor Company 2 is blocked by Minor
> Company 1's token, can both Minor Company 1 and 2 be merged into
> Company A when it forms?
Yes.
> When a Company forms, must it buy a token, or can it just use the
> merged Minor Company tokens?
It may choose not to buy a token if it gets one from a merged minor (or
from a private).
> Can a Minor Company be merged into a forming corporation, even if that
> Minor Company just formed in the same formation phase?
Not sure -- my inclination would be to say a minor cannot merge if it has
not operated, but I will check.
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Craig Bartell
>> Minor Company just formed in the same formation phase?
>
> Not sure -- my inclination would be to say a minor cannot merge if it has
> not operated, but I will check.
>
Thank you for the quick answers. Here is the scenario that caused me to ask
the above question:
Suppose a player has $560 at the start of the formation round. He does not
want to form a company, rather wants to invest during the stock round. The
player opens 4 minor companies with $40 each (just to place the tokens).
Then opens a $200 corporation, and dumps the 4 newly formed minor companies
into the corporation. In the stock round, the player can sell 4 shares at
$200 each for a net of $800. And he is still president of a company with
$560 worth of funding and the presidents share is worth $160x2 = $320.
Craig