So many things wrong with the current ” plan ” for Weinam Creek
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Chris
Jun 21, 2014, 7:09:19 PM6/21/14
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The Redlands2030 website recently published an excellent post entitled: Was “place based planning” an option for Weinam Creek?
You can read it here: http://redlands2030.net/place-based-planning-option-weinam-creek/
In response to the original post (linked above) Junita Grosvenor submitted an excellent comment which is reprinted below in full
There are so many things wrong with the current ” plan ” for Weinam Creek, it is hard to know where to begin. Any relocation of the current Ferry Terminal is only to benefit developers, as this frees up more valuable foreshore space for them. The expensive initial & ongoing financial costs of widening and (damaging to Weinam Creeks ecosystems) dredging the creek for relocation of the ferry terminal into the shallow end of the creek is stupid in the extreme. This is where the original smaller ferry terminal used to be but was moved to it’s present location,to avoid dredging costs and to ensure safety at the 4 lane public boat ramp. If the public boat ramp is moved to the south side of the creek, you would have to wipe out the current homes there and a narrow residential street is the only access there.
Not exactly good for the residents there is it? But then this PDA was never meant to benefit the locals who already lived here long before the PDAS were announced by the Qld State,Govt. Why should the RCC (and therefore the ratepayers) have to pay for any infrastructure costs, when it is,the Qld State Govt who has total control over this PDA? The road system is totally inadequate to cope with the 2 housing developments that have recently been started at School of Arts Rd, and now this PDA. Plus the Shoreline housing development which estmates another 10,000 residents in Redland Bay, essentially doubling this suburbs population in just one development. Considering the projected population for the Wc PDA has been grossly underestimated in the Weinam Creek PDA Draft report ( only 75% of 2 people occupying 2 storey apartment… Only there are no 2 storey apartmentsin this PDA, just 7,5 & 3 storey) then the roads infrastructure will also have been grossly underestimated as well. This oversight is good for developers as they won’t have to pay so much for their initial investment, leaving it up to all the Redlands ratepayers to pick up the rest of the costs, when it is finally revealed that the roads were never planned properly in the first place.
The congestion on Redland Bay/Cleveland Rd from Redland Bay to Victoria Point during peak hours is untenable already. Black spots such as Giles Rd & Gordon Rd, Double Jump Rd, and Anita Street should have been addressed long ago when the first plans were put in place to expand Redland Bay. REDLANDS MP PETER DOWLING STATED RECENTLY IN THE BAYSIDE BULLETIN THAT THERE WERE NO PLANS TO IMPROVE THE MAIN RD BEFORE 2026. WHY NOT, ESP WHEN THEY KNOW HOW MUCH DEVELOPMENT IS GOING TO COME WELL BEFORE THAT TIME.
By trying to cram a mini Gold Coast type development here, the very ambience that attracts tourists will be gone forever. Why not build and improve on what already exists here, instead of destroying it. It would,make more sense to leave the ferry terminal where it currently,is for safety of public boaties ( who also launch jet skies and canoes from there), and to avoid dredging costs. It would also ensure constant business from commuters to the cafes and restaurants planned for the new private marina, otherwise how are these new businesses going to pay their expensive rents? Especially when there will not be enough parking for everyone who wants to go there, if it is worth going there at all.
The area on,Moores Rd that has been earmarked for 3 storey apartments, and the Translink bus terminal, and parking, is a designated flood plain and storm surge zone. You can check that on the RCCs own website in the Red-E-maps section. It also shows you where the environmentally protected and conservation areas, and drainage compromised areas are there too. They are part of the mangroves that according to the BAAM ECOLOGY CONSULTANTS TOONDAH HARBOUR PDA AND WEINAM CREEK PDA ENVIRONMENTAL REPORT are ” of high value to fisheries in,Southern Moreton Bay “, as it is the ONLY INTERTIDAL CREEK BETWEEN SOUTHPORT AND THE SUNSHINE COAST. It is,also the “seasonal maternity camp for 3 different types of endangered flying foxes ” and many other recognised migratory birds, flora and fauna.
Nowhere near enough proper thought has gone into this PDA, and nowhere near enough public consultation with the local community has happened either. It would not happen in any other state in Australia this way, especially without a proper Environmental Impact Study being done. I suggest that if development is all you love, then move to the Gold Coast.
If you have not already done so, go to redlands2030.net and register via the little pop up screen to receive occasional newsletters from us:
http://redlands2030.net/sample-page/
You can read it here: http://redlands2030.net/place-based-planning-option-weinam-creek/
In response to the original post (linked above) Junita Grosvenor submitted an excellent comment which is reprinted below in full
There are so many things wrong with the current ” plan ” for Weinam Creek, it is hard to know where to begin. Any relocation of the current Ferry Terminal is only to benefit developers, as this frees up more valuable foreshore space for them. The expensive initial & ongoing financial costs of widening and (damaging to Weinam Creeks ecosystems) dredging the creek for relocation of the ferry terminal into the shallow end of the creek is stupid in the extreme. This is where the original smaller ferry terminal used to be but was moved to it’s present location,to avoid dredging costs and to ensure safety at the 4 lane public boat ramp. If the public boat ramp is moved to the south side of the creek, you would have to wipe out the current homes there and a narrow residential street is the only access there.
Not exactly good for the residents there is it? But then this PDA was never meant to benefit the locals who already lived here long before the PDAS were announced by the Qld State,Govt. Why should the RCC (and therefore the ratepayers) have to pay for any infrastructure costs, when it is,the Qld State Govt who has total control over this PDA? The road system is totally inadequate to cope with the 2 housing developments that have recently been started at School of Arts Rd, and now this PDA. Plus the Shoreline housing development which estmates another 10,000 residents in Redland Bay, essentially doubling this suburbs population in just one development. Considering the projected population for the Wc PDA has been grossly underestimated in the Weinam Creek PDA Draft report ( only 75% of 2 people occupying 2 storey apartment… Only there are no 2 storey apartmentsin this PDA, just 7,5 & 3 storey) then the roads infrastructure will also have been grossly underestimated as well. This oversight is good for developers as they won’t have to pay so much for their initial investment, leaving it up to all the Redlands ratepayers to pick up the rest of the costs, when it is finally revealed that the roads were never planned properly in the first place.
The congestion on Redland Bay/Cleveland Rd from Redland Bay to Victoria Point during peak hours is untenable already. Black spots such as Giles Rd & Gordon Rd, Double Jump Rd, and Anita Street should have been addressed long ago when the first plans were put in place to expand Redland Bay. REDLANDS MP PETER DOWLING STATED RECENTLY IN THE BAYSIDE BULLETIN THAT THERE WERE NO PLANS TO IMPROVE THE MAIN RD BEFORE 2026. WHY NOT, ESP WHEN THEY KNOW HOW MUCH DEVELOPMENT IS GOING TO COME WELL BEFORE THAT TIME.
By trying to cram a mini Gold Coast type development here, the very ambience that attracts tourists will be gone forever. Why not build and improve on what already exists here, instead of destroying it. It would,make more sense to leave the ferry terminal where it currently,is for safety of public boaties ( who also launch jet skies and canoes from there), and to avoid dredging costs. It would also ensure constant business from commuters to the cafes and restaurants planned for the new private marina, otherwise how are these new businesses going to pay their expensive rents? Especially when there will not be enough parking for everyone who wants to go there, if it is worth going there at all.
The area on,Moores Rd that has been earmarked for 3 storey apartments, and the Translink bus terminal, and parking, is a designated flood plain and storm surge zone. You can check that on the RCCs own website in the Red-E-maps section. It also shows you where the environmentally protected and conservation areas, and drainage compromised areas are there too. They are part of the mangroves that according to the BAAM ECOLOGY CONSULTANTS TOONDAH HARBOUR PDA AND WEINAM CREEK PDA ENVIRONMENTAL REPORT are ” of high value to fisheries in,Southern Moreton Bay “, as it is the ONLY INTERTIDAL CREEK BETWEEN SOUTHPORT AND THE SUNSHINE COAST. It is,also the “seasonal maternity camp for 3 different types of endangered flying foxes ” and many other recognised migratory birds, flora and fauna.
Nowhere near enough proper thought has gone into this PDA, and nowhere near enough public consultation with the local community has happened either. It would not happen in any other state in Australia this way, especially without a proper Environmental Impact Study being done. I suggest that if development is all you love, then move to the Gold Coast.
If you have not already done so, go to redlands2030.net and register via the little pop up screen to receive occasional newsletters from us:
http://redlands2030.net/sample-page/
Miss Tilly
Jun 23, 2014, 5:04:01 AM6/23/14
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The environmental destruction ahead is going to be devastating and un repairable ... its very sad !
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