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Daniele Procida  
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 More options Apr 25 2012, 12:06 pm
From: "Daniele Procida" <dani...@vurt.org>
Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2012 17:06:57 +0100
Local: Wed, Apr 25 2012 12:06 pm
Subject: Re: Where are the women?
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On Wed, Apr 25, 2012, Hanne Moa <hanne....@gmail.com> wrote:
>On 24 April 2012 16:14, Daniele Procida <dani...@vurt.org> wrote:
>> I was looking at <http://2012.djangocon.eu/schedule/> again with
>excited anticipation, and reading through the talk summaries.
>> There are *two* women out of the 24 or so speakers listed, and only
>one is doing a solo talk.
>You get more women in by changing the weights in *any* of the tests:
>more programmers, more female programmers, more open source
>programmers, more programmers visiting techie cons etc. It adds up.

>So: you have this wee group of potential "female open-source
>programmer that visit techie cons that also are of interest to you".
>Then, and only then can you start to look at con-specific or
>language-specific tests that the community can directly do something
>with: "bro"grammers, strip shows, excessive drinking and pressure to
>drink (rumored to be a problem at Java Script venues), rock star
>behavior (ruby?), specific idiots that should never have been left out
>of the asylum and ruins it for everyone etc.

The Python/Django culture just isn't like that. The days and evenings I spent at DjangoCon in Amsterdam last year were in the company of pleasant, courteous and friendly people.

I wasn't entirely sure what to expect before I went, but I didn't imagine there'd be strippers and heavy drinking - is that usual? Or what people expect, and are put off by?

>I haven't heard any rumors of stupid behavior among pythoneers or at
>python cons though so it might just be that "female open-source
>(python and django) programmer that visit techie cons that also are of
>interest to you" is a very small group.

It clearly is a very small group. The question is, why so small, and what, if anything, to do to address it.

Daniele


 
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