Curious about 1.0 release.
sansmojo
registration project for the continuing education division I work for
at a local university. The project will, I hope, be a nice
contribution to the Django community due to the fact that there are
many CE units across the country looking for a similar solution.
Anyhow, the IT director has said that he doesn't want the project to go
live until Django is in a 1.0 release. My bosses and myself, having
pushed for this project for some time, are eager to make things go live
early 2007.
I really need to not sound like a goober when telling my boss that I'll
have the project completed by January, but then not be able to go live
because of the 1.0 requirement. I'd rather start begging the IT
director to be lenient if that's what I need to do. Or simply rest
easy knowing that 1.0 will at least come by February.
I know that asking when 1.0 is going to be released is not going to get
an answer, but can anyone at least narrow it down for me? Will it be
this year? Several months? A year? Will there be intermediate
releases all the way up to 1.0 (say .97, .98)?
Thanks in advance for any info.
Russell Keith-Magee
>
> I know that asking when 1.0 is going to be released is not going to get
> an answer, but can anyone at least narrow it down for me?
As soon as possible, but no sooner :-)
> Will it be
> this year? Several months? A year? Will there be intermediate
> releases all the way up to 1.0 (say .97, .98)?
Seriously, though - this is an open source project, and nobody (to my
knowledge) is paid to work on Django full time. As such, accurate
scheduling is a real problem. We aren't going to put v1.0 out until we
are happy that we have the API's right, because once 1.0 is in the
field, we will guarantee support for that API into the future.
There are a couple of areas that still require major changes - most
notably inheritance and manipulators. Work on both of these has
started, but it is difficult to judge when they will be complete,
because their completion depends on the available time of those
working on the changes (and the core developers have all been fairly
busy of late).
As for time frame - I wouldn't even want to hazard a guess. Once upon
a time, we said (northern) Summer 2006 for v1.0. We would probably be
well served to look at the development roadmap again.
As for convincing your IT manager - Django 0.95 is stable (performance
stable, not API stable) - and I haven't had any problems using SVN
trunk on production sites. Both versions are being used successfully
on large scale projects. The last big API change - the magic-removal
branch - was pretty big, but the migration (in my experience) was well
described and relatively low effort and painless. Don't let the "its
not v1.0" factor scare you off.
Yours,
Russ Magee %-)
Kenneth Gonsalves
On 25-Oct-06, at 6:03 AM, Russell Keith-Magee wrote:
> As for convincing your IT manager - Django 0.95 is stable (performance
> stable, not API stable) - and I haven't had any problems using SVN
> trunk on production sites. Both versions are being used successfully
> on large scale projects. The last big API change - the magic-removal
> branch - was pretty big, but the migration (in my experience) was well
> described and relatively low effort and painless. Don't let the "its
> not v1.0" factor scare you off.
i agree here - maybe 1.0 should never come out ;-)
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sansmojo
Django is not at 1.0 - I need to convince others not to be :)
Any ideas of how I might offer a proof (or strong evidence) of 0.95's
stability?
Thanks!
Jeremy Dunck
http://projects.washingtonpost.com/congress/,
http://www.chicagocrime.org/
?
On 10/25/06, sansmojo <sans...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
Michael Radziej
> LJWorld.com, Lawrence.com, Tabblo.com,
> http://projects.washingtonpost.com/congress/,
> http://www.chicagocrime.org/
I'm curious: Are they all 0.95?
Michael
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> Jeremy Dunck schrieb:
> > LJWorld.com, Lawrence.com, Tabblo.com,
> > http://projects.washingtonpost.com/congress/,
> > http://www.chicagocrime.org/
>
> I'm curious: Are they all 0.95?
I can vouch for my sites (chicagocrime.org and the various
washingtonpost.com apps): They're on 0.95. Tabblo is as well.
Adrian
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> stability?
We have an aptly named "API stability" document:
http://www.djangoproject.com/documentation/api_stability/
sansmojo
would.
Kenneth Gonsalves
On 25-Oct-06, at 7:51 PM, Michael Radziej wrote:
> I'm curious: Are they all 0.95?
afaik they run from latest svn trunk
Ned Batchelder
--Ned.
Adrian Holovaty wrote:
On 10/25/06, Michael Radziej <m...@noris.de> wrote:Jeremy Dunck schrieb:LJWorld.com, Lawrence.com, Tabblo.com, http://projects.washingtonpost.com/congress/, http://www.chicagocrime.org/I'm curious: Are they all 0.95?I can vouch for my sites (chicagocrime.org and the various washingtonpost.com apps): They're on 0.95. Tabblo is as well. Adrian
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Antonio Cavedoni
You might also want to point your boss towards this list which is
pretty impressive considering the age of the project:
http://code.djangoproject.com/wiki/DjangoPoweredSites
FWIW: my little studio does pretty much all its web based work in
Django these days. We’re about to launch a fashion site in Flash
(yeah, I know) backed by Django and an e-commerce site, this time not
in Flash, all in Django as well.
Cheers.
--
Antonio
Malcolm Tredinnick
> On 25 Oct 2006, at 16:11, sansmojo wrote:
> > Thanks so much for the responses. I am not scared of the fact that
> > Django is not at 1.0 - I need to convince others not to be :)
> >
> > Any ideas of how I might offer a proof (or strong evidence) of
> > 0.95's stability?
>
> You might also want to point your boss towards this list which is
> pretty impressive considering the age of the project:
>
> http://code.djangoproject.com/wiki/DjangoPoweredSites
For people with a really short attention span, the elevator pitch
version of that list (as of a few months ago) is here:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/jacobian/198390789/in/photostream/ (a cool
visual interpretation by Jacob). :-)
Malcolm