New to Django
datta
minutes ago. (Don't ask me "why?". For the curious mind, it is a
random decision because I like Python).
Can someone tell me if:
1. Can I do everything I can do in PHP (like maintaining sessions,
etc.) using Django ?
2. How can I change my UI design?
3. Is it a difficult learning curve for designing websites with
Django?
Some simple tutorial (other than the one on Django website).
If some Django evangelist can guild me I will be INDEBTED!
Regards,
Datta
Shawn Milochik
Yes, you can maintain sessions and all that. I don't think there's anything you can do with PHP that you can't do with Django except write poorly-formatted code. Also, you'll find more Web hosts that support PHP than Django these days, but Django is growing in popularity quickly.
I don't know what you mean by changing your UI design, but Django templates can be whatever you currently choose to use.
Learning curve to "design websites": Please elaborate.
Shawn
Ray
> Hi, I just decided to build my web application in Django some 10
> minutes ago. (Don't ask me "why?". For the curious mind, it is a
> random decision because I like Python).
great!
> Can someone tell me if:
>
> 1. Can I do everything I can do in PHP (like maintaining sessions,
> etc.) using Django ?
Yes
> 2. How can I change my UI design?
Yes
> 3. Is it a difficult learning curve for designing websites with
> Django?
It depends on your experience with previous web development and your
current skills and ability to learn. But, many say Django is one of
the easiest frameworks to get up and going quickly.
> Some simple tutorial (other than the one on Django website).
> If some Django evangelist can guild me I will be INDEBTED!
The online tutorial is great,
The main Django doco is great
http://djangobook.com is great
If you have read all of that, played with Django a bit you should be
well on your way to building your new site! :)
Regards,
Ray Smith
Dattatreya M
2. I am going through the Django tut....I was wondering if there is something else that would save me hours of 're-inventing' the wheel (with regards to designing websites using Django). (cook book/ for 'dummies' kind of a thing/ etc...??)
3. By UI design, I mean, those flashy websites that people make. As it is, I write code to manipulate data. For the first time I am hosting a page for the world to access one of my statistical models. How do I make those flashy-flashy things..
Regards,
Datta.
Dattatreya Mellacheruvu
Graduate Student, Bioinformatics,
The University of Michigan, Ann Arbor.
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Dattatreya Mellacheruvu
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Shawn Milochik
On Dec 23, 2009, at 7:43 PM, Dattatreya M wrote:
> 1. @Shawn, Thanks for the reply. I appreciate you taking time to answer.
>
> 2. I am going through the Django tut....I was wondering if there is something else that would save me hours of 're-inventing' the wheel (with regards to designing websites using Django). (cook book/ for 'dummies' kind of a thing/ etc...??)
>
> 3. By UI design, I mean, those flashy websites that people make. As it is, I write code to manipulate data. For the first time I am hosting a page for the world to access one of my statistical models. How do I make those flashy-flashy things..
>
> Regards,
> Datta.
Well, Django lets you do anything you can do with any other server-side language. If you want to add animation and stuff like that, that's not Django. Nor is it PHP, ASP, or any other language or framework. You might want to look into Flash. Django doesn't make the "look and feel" of your site. It serves up the data. Even things like JavaScript are outside of Django's domain.
It sounds to be like you aren't really looking for Django, but maybe something like Dreamweaver. The stuff you call "re-inventing the wheel" is what I call "learning to program." You have to copy what others have done to learn how it works, so you can then adapt it for yourself.
However, if your statistical models exist in a database, and you'd like a friendly ORM [1] to use to write the logic behind your Web site, then I wholeheartedly recommend Django (and this mailing list). If you already have all the "programming" done and just want to make a pretty user interface and bells and whistles, look into Flash, jQuery, and Dreamweaver.
Shawn
S.Selvam
Some simple tutorial (other than the one on Django website).
I have been learning with the offical website tutorial,it is excellent !,why don't you try it ?
If some Django evangelist can guild me I will be INDEBTED!
Regards,
Datta
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Regards,
S.Selvam
datta
Thanks a lot for your time and response. I don't need any animations,
but I do need a presentable web-page which is user-friendly. I already
built all of this in PHP and I just hate it (it looks very clumsy , in
terms of presentation and code-management). So I decided to give
Django a try.
@Shawn/All,
If any one in this community wouldn't mind giving me some pointers on
what I want to do specifically, that will be great. ( I kinda want to
deliver a simple web site by Monday, and any help in this regard is
greatly appreciated). I wouldn't be mean by asking your for a specific
solution, but I will be very pleased to get some suggestions and
ideas.
Here is a brief write up of what I am doing and what I need.
1. My Objective:
To build a modular/easily manageable web application which allows
users to view a data repository that I built. The user can then
compare his/her data with the data in my repository and carry out some
statistical analysis ( I have the tools build for it (in Python)
already.). The results of the statistical analysis are the real
deliverables to the end-user. My repository is the 'seed-data' to run
the statistical models. The hope is that users will like the tool and
(as a token of gratitude) choose to donate their data to the
repository (which I expect to be useful to the community at large).
2. My specific requirements:
A. I want to know who is using the tool and what they are submitting.
So I want only the logged-in users to play with my web-tools. So, I
need a user self-registration module.
B. I want an admin-management module - to administer user access. In
addition, I want to have user specific access control to the data in
my repository. (but this is in the phase-II plan, so it is not an
immediate requirement).
C. I want data level access control . i.e., I want to ensure that if I
choose to mask certain data to certain users, I should be able to do
so. (but this is phase-II and not an immediate requirement.)
D. I want to render my results as "html web pages" containing "tables
(data)" and "images (plots)". The data in the html tables should be
exportable as csv files and plots exportable as pdf reports. ( so I
need an 'export' functionality. Part of this requirement in phase-II.
So basically I will do what ever I can in phase-I).
E. I want to enforce certain basic security measures (to prevent my
web server from crashing). Specifically, I want to ensure I don't get
repeat hits from the same IP/domain. Also, I want to ensure that my
web server is not used as an intermediate route by hackers ( so I
basically should have a very strict set possible operations by the
user). I will prefer using https and i will prefer 'masking' my URL's
( so they really dont know where the actual data resides).
3. What am I seeking from this community?
1. Pointers to pluggable django apps. (this is what I really need)
2. Brief ideas of how you would go about with each of these
requirements , if you are dealing with similar things. ( of course if
you have some time to spare and wouldn't mind doing thing -- but I
will reaallly appreciate any mentoring in this regard).
4. Logistics:
I have a fedora box on which I will host my application. I will have a
firewall and make sure I have only specific ports open. Obviouslly, I
will be using Apache as the web server. As of now, I am planning on
using sqlite as my database.
Regards,
Datta.
datta
bit of material.
Regards,
Datta.