[JOB] Urgent - PHP/Python Developer needed

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Cal Leeming [Simplicity Media Ltd]

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Apr 10, 2012, 4:31:29 PM4/10/12
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Hi all,

Another urgent position has come up in our company, applicant needs to have some experience with using Django but must also be comfortable with PHP (our clients are a 50/50 split between PHP and Django).

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Simplicity Media Ltd are an established UK company providing bespoke IT solutions for a variety of clients across the globe.

We are currently looking for a flexible and diverse developer to maintain and extend our existing PHP deployments.

Our solutions are high volume (peaking at around 5000 requests/minute), with extremely large databases (400 million+ rows) and large content servers (15TB+ of media files).

The successful candidate should have at least 2 years commercial experience, be fluent OOP, and have a general understanding of what it means to be a good programmer.

We're looking for a real person with real emotion, not a corporate robot - and being a team player is absolutely critical. Our company attitude is firm but fair, we encourage a healthy mixture of fun/work, and we even have a 'NSFW' IRC channel!

Essential skills:
* PHP 5.x (OOP)
* MySQL
* Linux (Debian)
* Bash (shell/ssh etc)

Desired (non-essential) skills:
* MongoDB
* Redhat
* Percona
* Memcache
* Redis
* Python

Desired (non-essential) experience:
* CodeIgniter (PHP)
* TubeX (PHP)
* Django (Python)
* JIRA (Atlassian)
* Basecamp
* Zendesk
* Livechat

MINIMUM CRITERIA:
* MUST be able to work on either EST or GMT+0 timezone
* MUST be able to work 30+ hours a week.
* MUST be comfortable working on 18+ sites.
* MUST be fluent in written & spoken English

The position is full time, offering around $2000/month (roughly £1200/month) for the right candidate - price/hours are negotiable.

This position MUST be filled by 15th April 2012.

When applying, please also include a cover note explaining why you feel you would be suitable for this role.


Cal Leeming [Simplicity Media Ltd]

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Apr 10, 2012, 4:32:18 PM4/10/12
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Sorry, small mistake on the posting, Django should have obviously been under essential skills!

Cal

Marcin Tustin

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Apr 10, 2012, 4:34:36 PM4/10/12
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You're urgently seeking a developer who will work fluently in two different (server side) languages, and you're offering 14400 pounds? I wish you luck.

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waax

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Apr 10, 2012, 4:42:18 PM4/10/12
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I'd like to +1 Marcin Tustin post. Good luck with your search for
right candidate.
Monthly salary you are giving for such a skill-set is roughly,
ridiculously small with best intentions.

Regards,
Nevio

Christophe Pettus

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Apr 10, 2012, 4:52:59 PM4/10/12
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On Apr 10, 2012, at 1:31 PM, Cal Leeming [Simplicity Media Ltd] wrote:

> * MUST be able to work 30+ hours a week.
>

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> The position is full time, offering around $2000/month (roughly £1200/month) for the right candidate - price/hours are negotiable.

Just to be clear, assuming that the job is 30 hours per week, you are really offering $15.38 per hour? That's roughly what a waiter in a mid-range San Francisco restaurant makes, with tips. If that really is your budget, you need to be looking at outsourcing companies, not a list like this one.

If that compensation was a typo, apologies!

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Cal Leeming [Simplicity Media Ltd]

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Apr 10, 2012, 5:00:55 PM4/10/12
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Thanks for the feedback.

Problem is - we do already have other full time developers on at 2000$/month (albeit for 130 hours, not 150), all of them with a varying skill set across both languages - and our clients also have in-house developers at roughly this same budget as well (both US and UK).

Sometimes we get great paying rates (like the £250-500/day one I posted only a few weeks ago) for senior roles, but this role is considered junior and therefore has a much lower budget.

Hope this makes sense.

Cal

Marcin Tustin

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Apr 10, 2012, 5:11:32 PM4/10/12
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I must say I'm surprised - the last time I had a job that paid at that level was my very first tech job, straight after A-levels. 

You don't need to apologise or explain to us - my post was more to observe that this doesn't seem like something that will get you CVs urgently.

andrea mucci

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Apr 10, 2012, 5:12:41 PM4/10/12
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hi Cal

Our solutions are high volume (peaking at around 5000 requests/minute), with extremely large databases (400 million+ rows) and large content servers (15TB+ of media files).

If you put in the hands of a junior dev this, your customer has to pay more for damages over wage offered
this is what makes no sense.

anyway, the fact that there is someone who has a salary so painful not exclude that the offer is a shit.

cheers,

Cal Leeming [Simplicity Media Ltd]

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Apr 10, 2012, 5:18:25 PM4/10/12
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On Tue, Apr 10, 2012 at 10:12 PM, andrea mucci <cing...@gmail.com> wrote:
hi Cal

Our solutions are high volume (peaking at around 5000 requests/minute), with extremely large databases (400 million+ rows) and large content servers (15TB+ of media files).

If you put in the hands of a junior dev this, your customer has to pay more for damages over wage offered
this is what makes no sense.

Not necessarily, you don't throw junior devs into the production environment - that's just silly :)

See, we deal a lot with students and interns, so we already have the structure in place to train people on the job, slowly introduce them into sensitive/complex systems etc.

Everyone's got to start somewhere!
 

anyway, the fact that there is someone who has a salary so painful not exclude that the offer is a shit.

No need for bad language

andrea mucci

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Apr 10, 2012, 5:26:55 PM4/10/12
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hi cal

ok,
so, you can re-write your offer asking for a junior dev, inexperienced or less experienced and for example, if your customer offer courses, certifications or something like this.
this make sense and you will get more resumes and better answers.

i restructure my last sentence
anyway, the fact that there is someone who has a salary so painful not exclude that the offer is "bad"

cheers,

Cal Leeming [Simplicity Media Ltd]

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Apr 10, 2012, 5:33:09 PM4/10/12
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On Tue, Apr 10, 2012 at 10:26 PM, andrea mucci <cing...@gmail.com> wrote:
hi cal

ok,
so, you can re-write your offer asking for a junior dev, inexperienced or less experienced and for example, if your customer offer courses, certifications or something like this.
this make sense and you will get more resumes and better answers.

That's a good point tbh, I'll ask one of the sales guys to spice it up a little bit.
 

i restructure my last sentence
anyway, the fact that there is someone who has a salary so painful not exclude that the offer is "bad"
:)

Cal Leeming [Simplicity Media Ltd]

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Apr 12, 2012, 3:27:30 PM4/12/12
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Further update on this - budget has changed so, we can now offer a higher rate and a part time alternative.

* 1500$/month for 70 hours (20$/hour)
* 2000$/month for 100 hours (20$/hour)

Thanks

Cal

ionic drive

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Apr 12, 2012, 5:26:51 PM4/12/12
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great:

I think this is a good sellery for India if you add some bonuses.

good luck

Gerald Klein

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Apr 12, 2012, 8:31:16 PM4/12/12
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Hi, I have over 20 years in the software business, I have worked for the big 6 back in the day of the dotcom crash. I am in the states so schedule is not a problem. I am looking for steady work, I am always available I don't do any onsite work. This spot is a perfect fit. The essentials are a slam dunk and I have more then a working knowledge of most of the rest. Please look over my resume and for more information please visit my web site http://www.geraldklein.com. I can be contacted at the information below.

Thank you for your kind consideration.

Gerald Klein


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Gerald Klein

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Apr 13, 2012, 8:02:53 AM4/13/12
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Hi, I apologize I didn't get your response till this morning, for whatever reason I couldn't reply to the other email. ? Anyway I thought it over and 18 sites is a lot of responsibility for that income, I must kindly decline this offer thank you for your consideration. 

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Mario Gudelj

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Apr 13, 2012, 8:23:15 AM4/13/12
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Is this anywhere near a standard rate in UK? 

Tom Evans

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Apr 13, 2012, 8:25:21 AM4/13/12
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On Fri, Apr 13, 2012 at 1:23 PM, Mario Gudelj <mario....@gmail.com> wrote:
> Is this anywhere near a standard rate in UK?
>

For a junior developer outside of London, yes. For a junior developer
outside of London working remotely, definitely.

Cheers

Tom

Marcin Tustin

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Apr 13, 2012, 8:28:31 AM4/13/12
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I guess junior dev rates have plummeted in the last 10 years.

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wang tiezhen

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Apr 13, 2012, 8:44:51 AM4/13/12
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BTW, is there any onsite work?

Tiezhen

Cal Leeming [Simplicity Media Ltd]

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Apr 13, 2012, 9:38:49 AM4/13/12
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> Is this anywhere near a standard rate in UK?
@mario - imho - for a junior position getting their foot in the door, whilst also working remotely - I think it is pretty fair. 

I guess junior dev rates have plummeted in the last 10 years.
@marcin - You should see how much typical internships pay, it's shockingly bad.
Also - the market is flooded with so called "professionals" that are driving up the prices and make finding decent developers extremely difficult. 

For example, here was a typical response to our question sheet from someone we interviewed.

QUESTION 5: Provide an example of how you would prevent SQL injection from happening.
ANSWER: "I wouldn't - I would use NMap and other scanners."

>BTW, is there any onsite work?
@wang - If you are available in the Coventry (UK), Bedfordshire (UK) or Pittsburgh (PA, US) areas, then we might be able to offer you an on-site position (if this is what you wanted).

Gerald Klein

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sql injection is defeated by methodizing sql calls and server side validation.

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Cal Leeming [Simplicity Media Ltd]

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Apr 13, 2012, 10:16:58 AM4/13/12
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Just saw your response about the 18+ adult sites.

I think there may have been some confusion, 18+ sites refers to the fact some of our clients work in the adult industry and their sites content 18+ mature content.

Cal

Cal Leeming [Simplicity Media Ltd]

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Apr 13, 2012, 10:19:46 AM4/13/12
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However as a side note, we actually manage and maintain somewhere in the region of 40+ pay sites (including tours, members area etc), and literally thousands of 'mini SEO' sites.

Cal

Marcin Tustin

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Apr 13, 2012, 10:21:13 AM4/13/12
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As written, the most natural reading of your post is that a candidate will be working on over 18 sites. Also, you want to pay people next to nothing to work on something that they may hesitate to put on their CV. Nice.

Cal Leeming [Simplicity Media Ltd]

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Apr 13, 2012, 10:56:00 AM4/13/12
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On Fri, Apr 13, 2012 at 3:21 PM, Marcin Tustin <marcin...@gmail.com> wrote:
As written, the most natural reading of your post is that a candidate will be working on over 18 sites.

Duly noted, I've updated the spec to use more precise wording "comfortable working on sites containing mature 18+ content"
 
Also, you want to pay people next to nothing to work on something that they may hesitate to put on their CV. Nice.

Are you suggesting that working on mature sites might be detrimental to ones career? And are you also suggesting that (for example) people who work on designing mens magazines (which also contain 18+ content) are only doing so because they are being paid enough money to keep it a secret? (your comments suggest that if the pay was higher, then the situation would be different..?)

On a side note - there are many (well known) digital agencies that work with companies in the adult industry - and we've certainly never had problems retaining clients or securing contracts as a result of that.

waax

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Apr 13, 2012, 11:31:39 AM4/13/12
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I'd +1 here Cal and what he said about adult industry.

It does not mean a thing if you were contracted by company with adult
focus or not. What matters is how you do your job and how fast you do
it. Bozos are looking into what sort of references you have, what kind
of college you went to and if you even have college and so forth.
Today school does not mean a thing in IT unless you are outside of US
and trying to permanently come into US by company sponsorship (because
you can't w/o college). Same thing applies for references. As far I
see, references should be here to see just overall who person is but
should not be took granted nor as something valuable. Internal company
tests are here to do so as interview (but tests more than interview).

I've for example work in my past on adult sites and had no issues
about that in future career what so ever. Again, if adult site you are
working on is great one than next employer will at least know you know
at least something about high-load apps and will for sure know that
you have great stomach :D It's not all so black.

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Marcin Tustin

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Apr 13, 2012, 11:35:43 AM4/13/12
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I don't understand: you suggest that "adult" content is purely neutral, and at the same time, you make a point of specifically warning about it. So, which is it: something that no-one cares about, or something that carries a stigma?

Cal Leeming [Simplicity Media Ltd]

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Apr 13, 2012, 11:40:29 AM4/13/12
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This is purely to make sure that the developer is comfortable working on adult content.

(For example, they may have young children at home with no separated office - or they may be subject to country/states laws which prohibit them from being involved)

Hasan Imam

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Hi, I am very interested to work in this plaform. Please view my update cv & inform me.

Thanks,
Md. Hasan Ali.
Sr Software Engineer.
CV_Hasan.doc

Sells, Fred

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Baby sitters in Manhattan get that much and lawn care workers in FL with no teeth and a leaf blower get $15.  You get what you pay for.

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Cal Leeming [Simplicity Media Ltd]

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Thanks to everyone for your feedback and to everyone who applied for the position - we had some really great applicants, and one or two exceptionally good ones.

The position has now been filled, but we will keep everyone who applied on file for future ref.

I should also take the opportunity to mention that we have other openings coming up in the next few months which are purely Python/Django based - and we are also considering taking on interns this year.

Cal

Kurtis Mullins

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May 1, 2012, 10:41:07 AM5/1/12
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Congrats on finding people to fill your position(s), Cal! 

At first I read that and thought "man, that's almost insulting". I can honestly say that it's not completely unfair to pay someone $20/hour -- especially if they're still in school. I barely make more than that as a lead-developer for a startup, haha. One of these days it'll get finished and I'll have a nice, large project to put on my CV/Portfolio :)

The sad thing is that you can enter the corporate world and easily hit $80,000+/year -- but I know I could never be happy in that kind of a work environment.

Cal Leeming [Simplicity Media Ltd]

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On Tue, May 1, 2012 at 3:41 PM, Kurtis Mullins <kurtis....@gmail.com> wrote:
Congrats on finding people to fill your position(s), Cal! 

Thank you!
 

At first I read that and thought "man, that's almost insulting". I can honestly say that it's not completely unfair to pay someone $20/hour -- especially if they're still in school. I barely make more than that as a lead-developer for a startup, haha. One of these days it'll get finished and I'll have a nice, large project to put on my CV/Portfolio :)

Absolutely - I've seen a lot of replies from people saying its a low wage, but I started off on that very same wage, AND I had to drag my ass into an office across a 2 hour round trip on public transport whilst working 40 hour weeks.
 

The sad thing is that you can enter the corporate world and easily hit $80,000+/year -- but I know I could never be happy in that kind of a work environment.

Couldn't agree with you more. I've done the whole working in the city thing, £65k basic/year etc, and it was fun for the first few months, but there's more to life than money.

And at those salaries, you can guarantee you're gonna be stressed as hell and on-call every weekend.

Work satisfaction, opportunities/learning experience, and general life style means so much more - it just took me a few years to realise :)
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