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  <title type="text">Django developers Google Group</title>
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  <updated>2009-12-02T01:26:15Z</updated>
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  <entry>
  <author>
  <name>SmileyChris</name>
  <email>smileych...@gmail.com</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2009-12-02T01:26:15Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.com/group/django-developers/browse_thread/thread/eba93088c649022b/e72a3141e934652c?show_docid=e72a3141e934652c</id>
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  <title type="text">Re: Session/cookie based messages (#4604)</title>
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  I applied and pushed all but your final whitespace revision. &lt;br&gt; &lt;p&gt;When Tobias reads this thread again, I&#39;m sure he&#39;ll give you commit. &lt;br&gt; The fail_silently sounds good, and yes these failures were a rather &lt;br&gt; big oversight.
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  <entry>
  <author>
  <name>Luke Plant</name>
  <email>l.plant...@cantab.net</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2009-12-02T00:11:14Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.com/group/django-developers/browse_thread/thread/6cbc4ce3dbbf9613/1dd37ba95eb35681?show_docid=1dd37ba95eb35681</id>
  <link href="http://groups.google.com/group/django-developers/browse_thread/thread/6cbc4ce3dbbf9613/1dd37ba95eb35681?show_docid=1dd37ba95eb35681"/>
  <title type="text">Re: Single lines between top level classes &amp; functions</title>
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  I had no idea it said that! I had got so used to Django&#39;s style that &lt;br&gt; anything else just grated... &lt;br&gt; &lt;p&gt;Luke &lt;br&gt; &lt;p&gt;-- &lt;br&gt; &amp;quot;Humiliation: The harder you try, the dumber you look.&amp;quot; &lt;br&gt; (despair.com) &lt;br&gt; &lt;p&gt;Luke Plant || &lt;a target=&quot;_blank&quot; rel=nofollow href=&quot;http://lukeplant.me.uk/&quot;&gt;[link]&lt;/a&gt;
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  <entry>
  <author>
  <name>Russell Keith-Magee</name>
  <email>freakboy3...@gmail.com</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2009-12-01T23:40:45Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.com/group/django-developers/browse_thread/thread/6cbc4ce3dbbf9613/09d83a6112c7d562?show_docid=09d83a6112c7d562</id>
  <link href="http://groups.google.com/group/django-developers/browse_thread/thread/6cbc4ce3dbbf9613/09d83a6112c7d562?show_docid=09d83a6112c7d562"/>
  <title type="text">Re: Single lines between top level classes &amp; functions</title>
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  Also recall that PEP8 is prefaced with the comment that foolish &lt;br&gt; consistency is the hobgoblin of little minds. :-) &lt;br&gt; &lt;p&gt;Yes, we should be following PEP8 here, although we have a lot of code &lt;br&gt; that doesn&#39;t follow PEP8 whitespace. New code should endeavor to be &lt;br&gt; PEP8 compliant with regards to whitespace, but I&#39;m certain that
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  <author>
  <name>SmileyChris</name>
  <email>smileych...@gmail.com</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2009-12-01T23:06:45Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.com/group/django-developers/browse_thread/thread/6cbc4ce3dbbf9613/13818f46e8f2a161?show_docid=13818f46e8f2a161</id>
  <link href="http://groups.google.com/group/django-developers/browse_thread/thread/6cbc4ce3dbbf9613/13818f46e8f2a161?show_docid=13818f46e8f2a161"/>
  <title type="text">Single lines between top level classes &amp; functions</title>
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  Prompted by Luke&#39;s whitespace removal patch for django-contrib- &lt;br&gt; messages, I thought I&#39;d bring this up. &lt;br&gt; &lt;p&gt;The Django contributing guide says &amp;quot;Unless otherwise specified, follow &lt;br&gt; PEP 8.&amp;quot; &lt;br&gt; &lt;p&gt;Should new code use two lines between top level classes &amp;amp; functions, &lt;br&gt; like PEP 8 suggests, or should the contributing guide be updated?
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  <entry>
  <author>
  <name>Luke Plant</name>
  <email>l.plant...@cantab.net</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2009-12-01T21:35:28Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.com/group/django-developers/browse_thread/thread/eba93088c649022b/4b032db3bb9c257c?show_docid=4b032db3bb9c257c</id>
  <link href="http://groups.google.com/group/django-developers/browse_thread/thread/eba93088c649022b/4b032db3bb9c257c?show_docid=4b032db3bb9c257c"/>
  <title type="text">Re: Session/cookie based messages (#4604)</title>
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  I just converted some code, and the API seems good to me. I had one &lt;br&gt; issue, which was the fact that I had some code which only had access &lt;br&gt; to the User object, and not the request object, which had to be re- &lt;br&gt; plumbed. The only place this change will be an issue is where it is &lt;br&gt; difficult to do that (e.g. if your code is being called from somewhere
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  <author>
  <name>Tobias McNulty</name>
  <email>tob...@caktusgroup.com</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2009-12-01T18:57:35Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.com/group/django-developers/browse_thread/thread/1fe8c3337d5af36c/1ee058b3090c6399?show_docid=1ee058b3090c6399</id>
  <link href="http://groups.google.com/group/django-developers/browse_thread/thread/1fe8c3337d5af36c/1ee058b3090c6399?show_docid=1ee058b3090c6399"/>
  <title type="text">Django development sprint in the Triangle, Dec 12-13</title>
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  Hi All, &lt;br&gt; &lt;p&gt;Just wanted to let you know that we&#39;ll be hosting a local Django Development &lt;br&gt; sprint in the Triangle area of North Carolina next weekend (Dec 12 and 13). &lt;br&gt; A development sprint is an excuse to get together, write some code, and have &lt;br&gt; a good time doing it. The purpose of this sprint will be to help finish
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  <author>
  <name>Tiago Samahá</name>
  <email>tiagosam...@gmail.com</email>
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  <updated>2009-12-01T13:17:46Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.com/group/django-developers/browse_thread/thread/7351ac9cbeb85ca5/598b33bcd2da6250?show_docid=598b33bcd2da6250</id>
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  <title type="text">Re: Django Testing Environment</title>
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  I&#39;m sorry Russell, i&#39;ll try to be more specific. &lt;br&gt; So, i want to know how the test environment works when i run a suite &lt;br&gt; test. How can i create and destroy a separated Django testing &lt;br&gt; environment? &lt;br&gt; I want to write a tool similar zope.testbrowser*, then i need to &lt;br&gt; create a Django testing environment.
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  <entry>
  <author>
  <name>Russell Keith-Magee</name>
  <email>freakboy3...@gmail.com</email>
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  <updated>2009-12-01T01:55:48Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.com/group/django-developers/browse_thread/thread/993d92334c27c717/3dd8cc3030301997?show_docid=3dd8cc3030301997</id>
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  <title type="text">Re: smart if tag</title>
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  Sounds good to me. &lt;br&gt; &lt;p&gt;Also sounds good. &lt;br&gt; &lt;p&gt;I&#39;ll try and take a look over the next couple of days. &lt;br&gt; &lt;p&gt;Russ %-)
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  <author>
  <name>Leaf</name>
  <email>leafstormr...@gmail.com</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2009-12-01T01:35:40Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.com/group/django-developers/browse_thread/thread/8164eddce14ca639/fefa35846e6fe936?show_docid=fefa35846e6fe936</id>
  <link href="http://groups.google.com/group/django-developers/browse_thread/thread/8164eddce14ca639/fefa35846e6fe936?show_docid=fefa35846e6fe936"/>
  <title type="text">Re: Creating AdminSite-level render_to_response method</title>
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  I have posted a patch implementing this to ticket number #12292 &lt;br&gt; (&lt;a target=&quot;_blank&quot; rel=nofollow href=&quot;http://code.djangoproject.com/ticket/12292&quot;&gt;[link]&lt;/a&gt;). &lt;br&gt; &lt;p&gt;-- Leaf
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  <entry>
  <author>
  <name>Russell Keith-Magee</name>
  <email>freakboy3...@gmail.com</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2009-11-30T23:56:28Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.com/group/django-developers/browse_thread/thread/3a56f7daa8f164ea/29c2792ec285e3da?show_docid=29c2792ec285e3da</id>
  <link href="http://groups.google.com/group/django-developers/browse_thread/thread/3a56f7daa8f164ea/29c2792ec285e3da?show_docid=29c2792ec285e3da"/>
  <title type="text">Re: Fixing syncdb initial fixtures overwriting existing data</title>
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  On Tue, Dec 1, 2009 at 2:25 AM, Thibaud Morel l&#39;Horset &lt;br&gt; &lt;p&gt;It may seem counterintuitive to you, but that doesn&#39;t change the fact &lt;br&gt; that this is the way fixtures have worked since they were introduced. &lt;br&gt; &lt;p&gt;You&#39;re not the first person to suggest changing this behavior, either. &lt;br&gt; Search the django-dev and django-users archives for past explanations.
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  <entry>
  <author>
  <name>Russell Keith-Magee</name>
  <email>freakboy3...@gmail.com</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2009-11-30T23:47:20Z</updated>
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  <link href="http://groups.google.com/group/django-developers/browse_thread/thread/7351ac9cbeb85ca5/ec9ea7e0c3c50054?show_docid=ec9ea7e0c3c50054"/>
  <title type="text">Re: Django Testing Environment</title>
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  It&#39;s unclear what information you are looking for. Django&#39;s &lt;br&gt; documentation contains details on the testing tools Django provides: &lt;br&gt; &lt;p&gt;&lt;a target=&quot;_blank&quot; rel=nofollow href=&quot;http://docs.djangoproject.com/en/dev/topics/testing/#topics-testing&quot;&gt;[link]&lt;/a&gt; &lt;br&gt; &lt;p&gt;Plus details on how those testing tools are used to test Django itself: &lt;br&gt; &lt;p&gt;&lt;a target=&quot;_blank&quot; rel=nofollow href=&quot;http://docs.djangoproject.com/en/dev/internals/contributing/#unit-tests&quot;&gt;[link]&lt;/a&gt;
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  <entry>
  <author>
  <name>Luke Plant</name>
  <email>l.plant...@cantab.net</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2009-11-30T23:17:48Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.com/group/django-developers/browse_thread/thread/993d92334c27c717/87fe4b8f31a59f04?show_docid=87fe4b8f31a59f04</id>
  <link href="http://groups.google.com/group/django-developers/browse_thread/thread/993d92334c27c717/87fe4b8f31a59f04?show_docid=87fe4b8f31a59f04"/>
  <title type="text">Re: smart if tag</title>
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  I&#39;ve removed Less, LessOrEqual and NotEqual. I kept &#39;Not&#39; as I think &lt;br&gt; it&#39;s slightly cleaner than putting &#39;negate&#39; into BaseCalc. It also &lt;br&gt; removes the asymmetry of using &#39;Or&#39; at one point in the code, which I &lt;br&gt; found slightly puzzling. &lt;br&gt; &lt;p&gt;Doh! Added now, along with some docs. &lt;br&gt; &lt;p&gt;Regards, &lt;br&gt; &lt;p&gt;Luke
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  <entry>
  <author>
  <name>Thibaud Morel l&#39;Horset</name>
  <email>tee...@teebes.com</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2009-11-30T18:25:03Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.com/group/django-developers/browse_thread/thread/3a56f7daa8f164ea/4ba77a9d94ef3845?show_docid=4ba77a9d94ef3845</id>
  <link href="http://groups.google.com/group/django-developers/browse_thread/thread/3a56f7daa8f164ea/4ba77a9d94ef3845?show_docid=4ba77a9d94ef3845"/>
  <title type="text">Fixing syncdb initial fixtures overwriting existing data</title>
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  Hi, &lt;br&gt; &lt;p&gt;Syncdb will currently automatically load inital data fixtures if the &lt;br&gt; files are there, even they are overwriting existing data in the db. &lt;br&gt; This seems &lt;br&gt; contrary to the principle stated in the syncdb documentation that it &lt;br&gt; will never alter existing data (see &lt;a target=&quot;_blank&quot; rel=nofollow href=&quot;http://docs.djangoproject.com/en/dev/ref/django-admin/#syncdb&quot;&gt;[link]&lt;/a&gt;
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  <entry>
  <author>
  <name>Tiago Samahá</name>
  <email>tiagosam...@gmail.com</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2009-11-30T18:13:24Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.com/group/django-developers/browse_thread/thread/7351ac9cbeb85ca5/cf2860e67a91383f?show_docid=cf2860e67a91383f</id>
  <link href="http://groups.google.com/group/django-developers/browse_thread/thread/7351ac9cbeb85ca5/cf2860e67a91383f?show_docid=cf2860e67a91383f"/>
  <title type="text">Django Testing Environment</title>
  <summary type="html" xml:space="preserve">
  Hi guys, &lt;br&gt; &lt;p&gt;I&#39;m starting in Django and want to know how the Django test &lt;br&gt; environment works. I want to write a testing tool, similar &lt;br&gt; zope.testbrowser. &lt;br&gt; How can i start this? Where can i find information about this? &lt;br&gt; I want to contribute with Django, but i&#39;m lost. &lt;br&gt; &lt;p&gt;Thanks
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  </entry>
  <entry>
  <author>
  <name>SmileyChris</name>
  <email>smileych...@gmail.com</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2009-11-30T20:27:32Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.com/group/django-developers/browse_thread/thread/993d92334c27c717/d944ee9544f597bb?show_docid=d944ee9544f597bb</id>
  <link href="http://groups.google.com/group/django-developers/browse_thread/thread/993d92334c27c717/d944ee9544f597bb?show_docid=d944ee9544f597bb"/>
  <title type="text">Re: smart if tag</title>
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  I&#39;d say reduce the code again. &lt;br&gt; &lt;p&gt;And I think you missed adding some files in your repo?
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