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nikki

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Jan 14, 2006, 7:43:52 PM1/14/06
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Hi - after reading the php vs .net vs rails wars I'd like some advice
on finding shops that primarily do django dvlpmt for start up ecommerce
sites that can grow comfortably. I've been on google search and the
freelance sites but I am not getting anyone but php , .net responders.
Any suggestions on how to find a number of candidates to consult would
be appreciated. A 5-10 K job . thanks

Jonathan Daugherty

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Jan 14, 2006, 8:21:27 PM1/14/06
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# Hi - after reading the php vs .net vs rails wars I'd like some
# advice on finding shops that primarily do django dvlpmt for start up
# ecommerce sites that can grow comfortably. I've been on google
# search and the freelance sites but I am not getting anyone but php ,
# .net responders. Any suggestions on how to find a number of
# candidates to consult would be appreciated. A 5-10 K job . thanks

Command Prompt, Inc. does Django and PostgreSQL website development.
You can contact them via the information on their site,

http://www.commandprompt.com/

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nikki

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Jan 14, 2006, 9:55:29 PM1/14/06
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thanks John for taking the time

Adrian Holovaty

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Jan 14, 2006, 9:59:12 PM1/14/06
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Some developers have made themselves available here:

http://code.djangoproject.com/wiki/DevelopersForHire

Adrian

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nikki

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Jan 14, 2006, 10:02:46 PM1/14/06
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John by the way I see command and it seems django work with postgreSql
preferentially. I was under the impression that large scaling DB
applications are at least generally done in mySql if not ms sql or
oracle. Is there a consensus that postgre is not the DB of choice for
ecommerce apps -even if one can here and there point out an anecdotal
instance?

Jonathan Daugherty

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Jan 14, 2006, 10:16:19 PM1/14/06
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# I was under the impression that large scaling DB applications are at
# least generally done in mySql

Yeah, this really has to stop. :)

# Is there a consensus that postgre is not the DB of choice for
# ecommerce apps -even if one can here and there point out an
# anecdotal instance?

I'd say the consensus is most certainly the opposite.

Flamingly yours,

nikki

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Jan 15, 2006, 2:34:02 AM1/15/06
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Thanks Adrian, I'm not a developer myself, just someone looking to
build a site the right way from the start. After research I came
accross Rails then Django, read magiepiebrain after google search and
well here I am. I actually emailed you from your site asking for the
same help.
I kinda laughed that naively I stepped on a sore spot about choice of
DB's but honestly it only reflect info I came accross , not an attempt
to insult anyone - sorry John -I'm still not sure of the implication of
my question. I know Rails supposedly works well with them all and even
.net can work with mySql. Again thanks Adrian for taking the time I
know in this community you are the Man - I appreciate your time

Jeroen Ruigrok van der Werven

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Jan 15, 2006, 10:50:10 AM1/15/06
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Nikki,

On 1/15/06, nikki <bombo...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> I kinda laughed that naively I stepped on a sore spot about choice of
> DB's but honestly it only reflect info I came accross , not an attempt
> to insult anyone - sorry John -I'm still not sure of the implication of
> my question. I know Rails supposedly works well with them all and even
> .net can work with mySql. Again thanks Adrian for taking the time I
> know in this community you are the Man - I appreciate your time

You will find most people here are quite database agnostic, but if you
ask any DBA (database administrator) worth his/her value they will not
even consider MySQL. If you need features on an enterprise level, i.e.
compete with Oracle or Microsoft SQL Server, you will come to
PostgreSQL, not MySQL.
At one point, I am not sure they still do this, MySQL even altered
column types if it thought it would speed up the database, which is
all nice and dandy, but a death sin for any serious DBA.

But that's digressing from what you asked.

Depending on what you need for your installation you might even get
away from SQLite. I find this document is fairly good reading about
considerations what to use and when:
http://www.sqlite.org/whentouse.html.

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nikki

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Jan 16, 2006, 3:01:58 AM1/16/06
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Ok your take is appreciated since it is somewhat different then the
common mis?understanding. The common lore on MySQL is that its good
enof for Google, Yahoo, Amazon so its a contender.
SQLite I'm told does not support concurrent users very well.

Also I came accross this DB comparison chart as of 3/05:
http://www.geocities.com/mailsoftware42/db/
which may interest you

Jeroen Ruigrok van der Werven

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Jan 16, 2006, 7:08:35 AM1/16/06
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Hi Nikki,

On 1/16/06, nikki <bombo...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Ok your take is appreciated since it is somewhat different then the
> common mis?understanding. The common lore on MySQL is that its good
> enof for Google, Yahoo, Amazon so its a contender.
> SQLite I'm told does not support concurrent users very well.

Haven't noticed much problems with that using Trac and SQLite. :)

> Also I came accross this DB comparison chart as of 3/05:
> http://www.geocities.com/mailsoftware42/db/
> which may interest you

Interesting and outdated, even in March 2005. Slony-I had been
announced in July 2004 as a replication software for PostgreSQL. So
that chart, compiled last year, doesn't even mention that.

In the end: try them all, see their features and take whatever works
for you. I care about licenses so I stick to the BSDL (or similar)
when I can.

James Bennett

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Jan 16, 2006, 7:14:06 AM1/16/06
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On 1/16/06, Jeroen Ruigrok van der Werven <ashe...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 1/16/06, nikki <bombo...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > Ok your take is appreciated since it is somewhat different then the
> > common mis?understanding. The common lore on MySQL is that its good
> > enof for Google, Yahoo, Amazon so its a contender.
> > SQLite I'm told does not support concurrent users very well.
>
> Haven't noticed much problems with that using Trac and SQLite. :)

From http://www.sqlite.org/faq.html#q7

"SQLite allows multiple processes to have the database file open at
once, and for multiple processes to read the database at once. When
any process wants to write, it must lock the entire database file for
the duration of its update. But that normally only takes a few
milliseconds. Other processes just wait on the writer to finish then
continue about their business."

So... concurrency for reading? Yes, so long as nothing's trying to
write to the DB file. Concurrency for writing? Nope.
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