Account Options

  1. Sign in
The old Google Groups will be going away soon, but your browser is incompatible with the new version.
Google Groups Home
« Groups Home
Test optimizations (2-5x as fast)
There are currently too many topics in this group that display first. To make this topic appear first, remove this option from another topic.
There was an error processing your request. Please try again.
flag
  Messages 1 - 25 of 37 - Collapse all  -  Translate all to Translated (View all originals)   Newer >
The group you are posting to is a Usenet group. Messages posted to this group will make your email address visible to anyone on the Internet.
Your reply message has not been sent.
Your post was successful
 
From:
To:
Cc:
Followup To:
Add Cc | Add Followup-to | Edit Subject
Subject:
Validation:
For verification purposes please type the characters you see in the picture below or the numbers you hear by clicking the accessibility icon. Listen and type the numbers you hear
 
Erik Rose  
View profile  
 More options May 13 2011, 7:57 pm
From: Erik Rose <e...@mozilla.com>
Date: Fri, 13 May 2011 16:57:59 -0700
Local: Fri, May 13 2011 7:57 pm
Subject: Test optimizations (2-5x as fast)
tl;dr: I've written an alternative TestCase base class which makes fixture-using tests much more I/O efficient on transactional DBs, and I'd like to upstream it.

Greetings, all! This is my first django-dev post, so please be gentle. :-) I hack on support.mozilla.com, a fairly large Django site with about 1000 tests. Those tests make heavy use of fixtures and, as a result, used to take over 5 minutes to run. So, I spent a few days seeing if I could cut the amount of DB I/O needed. Ultimately, I got the run down to just over 1 minute, and almost all of those gains are translatable to any Django site running against a transactional DB. No changes to the apps themselves are needed. I'd love to push some of this work upstream, if there's interest (or even lack of opposition ;-)).

The speedups came from 3 main optimizations:

1. Class-level fixture setup

Given a transaction DB, there's no reason to reload fixtures via dozens of SQL statements before every test. I made use of setup_class() and teardown_class() (yay, unittest2!) to change the flow for TestCase-using tests to this:
    a. Load the fixtures at the top of the class, and commit.
    b. Run a test.
    c. Roll back, returning to pristine fixtures. Go back to step b.
    d. At class teardown, figure out which tables the fixtures loaded into, and expressly clear out what was added.

Before this optimization: 302s to run the suite
After: 97s.

Before: 37,583 queries
After: 4,116

On top of that, an additional 4s was saved by reusing a single connection rather than opening and closing them all the time, bringing the final number down to 93s. (We can get away with this because we're committing any on-cursor-initialization setup, whereas the old TestCase rolled it back.)

Here's the code: https://github.com/erikrose/test-utils/blob/master/test_utils/__init_.... I'd love to generalize it a bit (to fall back to the old behavior with non-transactional backends, for example) and offer it as a patch to Django proper, replacing TestCase. Thoughts?

(If you notice that copy-and-paste of loaddata sitting off to the side in another module, don't fret; in the patch, that would turn into a refactoring of loaddata to make the computation of the fixture-referenced tables separately reusable.)

2. Fixture grouping

I next observed that many test classes reused the same sets of fixtures, often via subclassing. After the previous optimization, our tests still loaded fixtures 114 times, even though there were only 11 distinct sets of them. So, I thought: why not write a custom testrunner that buckets the classes by fixture set and advises the classes that, unless they're the first or last in a bucket, they shouldn't bother tearing down or setting up the fixtures, respectively? This took the form of a custom nose plugin (we use nose for all our Django stuff), and it took another quarter off the test run:

Before: 97s
After: 74s

Of course, test independence is still preserved. We're just factoring out pointlessly repeated setup.

I don't really have plans to upstream this unless someone calls for it, but I'll be making it available soon, likely as part of django-nose.

3. Startup optimizations

At this point, it was bothering me that, just to run a single test, I had to wait through 15s of DB initialization (mostly auth_permissions and django_content_type population)—stuff which was already perfectly valid from the previous test run. So, building on some work we had already done in this direction, I decided to skip the teardown of the test DB and, symmetrically, the setup on future runs. If you make schema changes, just set an env var, and it wipes and remakes the DB like usual. I could see pushing this into django-nose as well, but it's got the hackiest implementation and can potentially confuse users. I mention it for completeness.

Before: startup time 15s
After: 3s (There's quite a wide variance due to I/O caching luck.)

Code: https://github.com/erikrose/test-utils/commit/b95a1b7

If you read this far, you get a cookie! I welcome your feedback on merging optimization #1 into core, as well as any accusations of insanity re: #2 and #3. FWIW, everything works great without touching any of the tests on 3 of our Django sites, totaling over 2000 tests.

Best regards and wishes for a happy weekend,
Erik Rose
support.mozilla.com


 
You must Sign in before you can post messages.
To post a message you must first join this group.
Please update your nickname on the subscription settings page before posting.
You do not have the permission required to post.
Alex Gaynor  
View profile  
 More options May 13 2011, 8:51 pm
From: Alex Gaynor <alex.gay...@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 13 May 2011 19:51:14 -0500
Local: Fri, May 13 2011 8:51 pm
Subject: Re: Test optimizations (2-5x as fast)

This is the one I'm most interested.  I did a patch a number of months ago
to do the fixture parsing, but not DB insertion on a per-class basis.  I
didn't find that to be a big win.  However, I'm going to be working on a
patch to do bulk inserts (that is a single execute/executemany call for all
objects to be inserted), which could be a big win for fixture loading, so
I'd kind of like to do that first, to see how big a win this is after that.
This is obviously more specialized, and invasive (IMO), so if we can get
most of the win without it that might be good enough.

No particular thoughts at the moment.

This is another thing that I think we can get most of the win from doing the
bulk inserts.  Given this looks rather specialized (and if you have other
custom syncdb hooks does it break?), I'd like to avoid it if possible.

Speeding up tests is defintely of interest to me, so thanks for the great
work!

Thanks!

--
"I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to
say it." -- Evelyn Beatrice Hall (summarizing Voltaire)
"The people's good is the highest law." -- Cicero


 
You must Sign in before you can post messages.
To post a message you must first join this group.
Please update your nickname on the subscription settings page before posting.
You do not have the permission required to post.
David Cramer  
View profile  
 More options May 14 2011, 12:42 am
From: David Cramer <dcra...@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 13 May 2011 21:42:49 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Sat, May 14 2011 12:42 am
Subject: Re: Test optimizations (2-5x as fast)
You sir, are my personal hero for the day :)

We had also been looking at how we could speed up the fixture loading
(we were almost ready to go so far as to make one giant fixture that
just loaded at the start of the test runner). This is awesome progress

On May 13, 4:57 pm, Erik Rose <e...@mozilla.com> wrote:


 
You must Sign in before you can post messages.
To post a message you must first join this group.
Please update your nickname on the subscription settings page before posting.
You do not have the permission required to post.
David Cramer  
View profile  
 More options May 14 2011, 1:11 am
From: David Cramer <dcra...@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 13 May 2011 22:11:43 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Sat, May 14 2011 1:11 am
Subject: Re: Test optimizations (2-5x as fast)
Also, one thing I'm quickly noticing (I'm a bit confused why its
setup_class and not setUpClass as well), but this wont work with
postgres without changing the DELETE code to work like the test
runner's TRUNCATE foo, bar; (due to foreign key constraints).

On May 13, 9:42 pm, David Cramer <dcra...@gmail.com> wrote:


 
You must Sign in before you can post messages.
To post a message you must first join this group.
Please update your nickname on the subscription settings page before posting.
You do not have the permission required to post.
David Cramer  
View profile  
 More options May 14 2011, 1:17 am
From: David Cramer <dcra...@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 13 May 2011 22:17:31 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Sat, May 14 2011 1:17 am
Subject: Re: Test optimizations (2-5x as fast)
More quick notes. You can do something like this to handle the
flushing:

                    sql_list = connection.ops.sql_flush(no_style(),
tables, connection.introspection.sequence_list())
                    for sql in sql_list:
                        cursor.execute(sql)

Unfortunately, you're still reliant that nothing was created with
signals that uses constraints. For us this is very common, and I can't
imagine we're an edge case there

On May 13, 9:42 pm, David Cramer <dcra...@gmail.com> wrote:


 
You must Sign in before you can post messages.
To post a message you must first join this group.
Please update your nickname on the subscription settings page before posting.
You do not have the permission required to post.
Jonas H.  
View profile  
 More options May 14 2011, 10:26 am
From: "Jonas H." <jo...@lophus.org>
Date: Sat, 14 May 2011 16:26:05 +0200
Local: Sat, May 14 2011 10:26 am
Subject: Re: Test optimizations (2-5x as fast)
How about caching the test databases? The database state could be cached
after model setup (which takes some time if you've got lots of them) +
initial data fixture setup, and after the setup for each test case
(fixtures + setUp() method).

So, in the best case, no database setup is required at all to run tests
-- which encourages test driven development :-)

I believe there's no generalized way of creating databases in Django
now, so that would have to be added.

I'd love to hack on that :-)

Jonas


 
You must Sign in before you can post messages.
To post a message you must first join this group.
Please update your nickname on the subscription settings page before posting.
You do not have the permission required to post.
Jonas H.  
View profile  
 More options May 14 2011, 10:29 am
From: "Jonas H." <jo...@lophus.org>
Date: Sat, 14 May 2011 16:29:51 +0200
Local: Sat, May 14 2011 10:29 am
Subject: Re: Test optimizations (2-5x as fast)
On 05/14/2011 04:26 PM, Jonas H. wrote:

> I believe there's no generalized way of creating databases in Django
> now, so that would have to be added.

s/creating/copying/

 
You must Sign in before you can post messages.
To post a message you must first join this group.
Please update your nickname on the subscription settings page before posting.
You do not have the permission required to post.
Erik Rose  
View profile  
 More options May 16 2011, 10:36 pm
From: Erik Rose <e...@mozilla.com>
Date: Mon, 16 May 2011 19:36:30 -0700
Local: Mon, May 16 2011 10:36 pm
Subject: Re: Test optimizations (2-5x as fast)
Ahoy, Alex! Thanks for the quick response.

> 1. Class-level fixture setup

>> This is the one I'm most interested.  I did a patch a number of months ago to do the fixture parsing, but not DB insertion on a per-class basis.  I didn't find that to be a big win.  However, I'm going to be working on a patch to do bulk inserts (that is a single execute/executemany call for all objects to be inserted), which could be a big win for fixture loading, so I'd kind of like to do that first, to see how big a win this is after that.  This is obviously more specialized, and invasive (IMO), so if we can get most of the win without it that might be good enough.

Could you explain what you mean by "to do the fixture parsing"? Did you try to speed up or cache the JSON parsing or something?

It's the per-class setup that yielded the biggest win for 2 of our largest sites: support.mozilla.com and addons.mozilla.com. We have (unsurprisingly) several tests in each class, and this avoids redoing all the I/O for each test. (CPU is practically free in an I/O-using situation like this, so I went straight for the disk writes.)

As for bulk inserts, that would be great to have as well! I'd be surprised if they were a huge win, since, in an MVCC DB, the writes typically happen on commit, and there wouldn't be any fewer of those. On the other hand, it's another way to cut traffic, and engines like MyISAM should benefit more, since they commit immediately. I'd love to see numbers on it. Have you had a chance to bench it?

> Speeding up tests is defintely of interest to me, so thanks for the great work!

You're welcome! I scratched a personal itch, but I hope others can benefit as well.

Toward that, should I work up a Django patch, or would the core team rather I release my work as a pluggable package? I realistically have the time to do only one.

Cheers,
Erik


 
You must Sign in before you can post messages.
To post a message you must first join this group.
Please update your nickname on the subscription settings page before posting.
You do not have the permission required to post.
Jacob Kaplan-Moss  
View profile  
 More options May 16 2011, 11:15 pm
From: Jacob Kaplan-Moss <ja...@jacobian.org>
Date: Mon, 16 May 2011 20:15:17 -0700
Local: Mon, May 16 2011 11:15 pm
Subject: Re: Test optimizations (2-5x as fast)

On Mon, May 16, 2011 at 7:36 PM, Erik Rose <e...@mozilla.com> wrote:
> Toward that, should I work up a Django patch, or would the core team rather I release my work as a pluggable package?

Patch, please! Fast is good :)

Jacob


 
You must Sign in before you can post messages.
To post a message you must first join this group.
Please update your nickname on the subscription settings page before posting.
You do not have the permission required to post.
Erik Rose  
View profile  
 More options May 16 2011, 11:18 pm
From: Erik Rose <e...@mozilla.com>
Date: Mon, 16 May 2011 20:18:41 -0700
Local: Mon, May 16 2011 11:18 pm
Subject: Re: Test optimizations (2-5x as fast)

> How about caching the test databases? The database state could be cached after model setup (which takes some time if you've got lots of them) + initial data fixture setup, and after the setup for each test case (fixtures + setUp() method).

> So, in the best case, no database setup is required at all to run tests -- which encourages test driven development :-)

So that would be 11 separate DBs for our tests, and you'd just switch between them? Interesting idea. Or are you proposing caching the results of queries for each test class, essentially mocking out the DB?

Perhaps some numbers would illuminate: I clock the total setup and teardown time for support.mozilla.com's 1064 tests at 2.59 seconds after my optimizations. So I'm pretty happy with that. :-) CPU use for the test run is 76% according to the `time` commands, so there's a little more I/O to kill but not much.

Cheers,
Erik


 
You must Sign in before you can post messages.
To post a message you must first join this group.
Please update your nickname on the subscription settings page before posting.
You do not have the permission required to post.
Erik Rose  
View profile  
 More options May 17 2011, 12:09 am
From: Erik Rose <e...@mozilla.com>
Date: Mon, 16 May 2011 21:09:23 -0700
Local: Tues, May 17 2011 12:09 am
Subject: Re: Test optimizations (2-5x as fast)
Woo, thanks for the constructive suggestions!

> Also, one thing I'm quickly noticing (I'm a bit confused why its
> setup_class and not setUpClass as well),

I was writing to nose's hooks; didn't realize Django used unittest2 now!

> but this wont work with
> postgres without changing the DELETE code to work like the test
> runner's TRUNCATE foo, bar; (due to foreign key constraints).

Absolutely. I assume this is what you fix below....

> You can do something like this to handle the
> flushing:

>                    sql_list = connection.ops.sql_flush(no_style(),
> tables, connection.introspection.sequence_list())
>                    for sql in sql_list:
>                        cursor.execute(sql)

Brilliant! Thanks! Say, can you think of any backends in which you actually have to reset the sequences after truncating? That seems like an interesting decoupling to me. MySQL, anyway, does the reset implicitly; perhaps we can optimize its sql_flush routine.

> Unfortunately, you're still reliant that nothing was created with
> signals that uses constraints. For us this is very common, and I can't
> imagine we're an edge case there

Can you tell me of these signals? Which ones? I don't think we use them, but I don't want to overlook them.

Erik


 
You must Sign in before you can post messages.
To post a message you must first join this group.
Please update your nickname on the subscription settings page before posting.
You do not have the permission required to post.
David Cramer  
View profile  
 More options May 17 2011, 12:12 am
From: David Cramer <dcra...@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 16 May 2011 21:12:19 -0700
Local: Tues, May 17 2011 12:12 am
Subject: Re: Test optimizations (2-5x as fast)
Postgres requires resetting the sequences I believe. I just assume
Oracle/MSSQL are probably similar.

Regarding the signals, basically we have a bunch of post_save type
things, which tend to store aggregate data for certain conditions.
These get populated (in some cases) in our tests, but don't correspond
to a fixture or a model in the same app.
--
David Cramer
http://justcramer.com


 
You must Sign in before you can post messages.
To post a message you must first join this group.
Please update your nickname on the subscription settings page before posting.
You do not have the permission required to post.
Erik Rose  
View profile  
 More options May 17 2011, 12:21 am
From: Erik Rose <e...@mozilla.com>
Date: Mon, 16 May 2011 21:21:25 -0700
Local: Tues, May 17 2011 12:21 am
Subject: Re: Test optimizations (2-5x as fast)

> Regarding the signals, basically we have a bunch of post_save type
> things, which tend to store aggregate data for certain conditions.
> These get populated (in some cases) in our tests, but don't correspond
> to a fixture or a model in the same app.

Ah, gotcha. So, a couple solutions off the top of my head: either just punt and truncate everything (except auth_permission and django_content_type). That would be a shame, since it takes awhile. OTOH, if you use fixture grouping (optimization #2), that's a lot more tolerable. Or maybe we could  monitor what tables are getting insertions somehow. I'll give it some thought.

 
You must Sign in before you can post messages.
To post a message you must first join this group.
Please update your nickname on the subscription settings page before posting.
You do not have the permission required to post.
Jani Tiainen  
View profile  
 More options May 17 2011, 2:05 am
From: Jani Tiainen <rede...@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 17 May 2011 09:05:39 +0300
Local: Tues, May 17 2011 2:05 am
Subject: Re: Test optimizations (2-5x as fast)

I would be very happy to test this against Oracle database to see is how
much patch improves speed since previously running tests against Oracle
has been a real pain specially all db recreate stuff took a long long
time.

--

Jani Tiainen


 
You must Sign in before you can post messages.
To post a message you must first join this group.
Please update your nickname on the subscription settings page before posting.
You do not have the permission required to post.
Ned Batchelder  
View profile  
 More options May 17 2011, 7:55 am
From: Ned Batchelder <n...@nedbatchelder.com>
Date: Tue, 17 May 2011 07:55:56 -0400
Local: Tues, May 17 2011 7:55 am
Subject: Re: Test optimizations (2-5x as fast)
On 5/16/2011 11:18 PM, Erik Rose wrote:
>> How about caching the test databases? The database state could be cached after model setup (which takes some time if you've got lots of them) + initial data fixture setup, and after the setup for each test case (fixtures + setUp() method).

>> So, in the best case, no database setup is required at all to run tests -- which encourages test driven development :-)
> So that would be 11 separate DBs for our tests, and you'd just switch between them? Interesting idea. Or are you proposing caching the results of queries for each test class, essentially mocking out the DB?

I'd been thinking recently about this as well: when you consider all the
test runs, they're very repetitive.  Every time the tests are run, they
go through the same set of steps: a) create database, b) install
fixtures, c) run tests.  Steps a, b, and c take too long.  Step c is
what we're really interested in, and almost always, steps a and b have
the same outcome as the last time we ran them.  We all know what to do
if an operation takes too long and usually is the same as last time:
cache its outcome.  The outcome in this case is the state of the
database.  Caching it could be as simple as making a copy of the
database after the fixtures are installed, then using that copy to run
tests.

The complications are: 1) in any interesting test suite, there isn't a
single outcome of a+b, because different tests will have different
fixtures and perhaps even different models, so a number of copies will
have to be captured.  2) As with any caching scheme, invalidation is
important and tricky.  In the normal course of development, how will
these cached copies of the database be invalidated and recreated?  
Perhaps this isn't so bad, it's roughly analogous to writing migrations,
which we know how to deal with.

I don't have any code to do this, but I envision a set of test
databases, with a modified test runner than knows how to cycle among
them by manipulating settings.DATABASES to use the proper one for each
test class.  I'd be glad to help build such a thing, and may be working
toward it myself.

--Ned.


 
You must Sign in before you can post messages.
To post a message you must first join this group.
Please update your nickname on the subscription settings page before posting.
You do not have the permission required to post.
Jonas H.  
View profile  
 More options May 17 2011, 10:16 am
From: "Jonas H." <jo...@lophus.org>
Date: Tue, 17 May 2011 16:16:03 +0200
Local: Tues, May 17 2011 10:16 am
Subject: Re: Test optimizations (2-5x as fast)
On 05/17/2011 01:55 PM, Ned Batchelder wrote:

> On 5/16/2011 11:18 PM, Erik Rose wrote:
>>> How about caching the test databases? The database state could be
>>> cached after model setup (which takes some time if you've got lots of
>>> them) + initial data fixture setup, and after the setup for each test
>>> case (fixtures + setUp() method).

>>> So, in the best case, no database setup is required at all to run
>>> tests -- which encourages test driven development :-)
>> So that would be 11 separate DBs for our tests, and you'd just switch
>> between them? Interesting idea.

Erik: yep

Invalidation is what I'm unsure about too -- multiple ideas came to my
mind, all involving some sort of Great Hash(tm):

1) Use file modification timestamps for all model and test related files.
Advantages: simple, works.
Disadvantages: Triggers cache invalidation for changes not related to
models or tests

2) #1 but do hash the model definitions (at Python level)
Advantages: no cache invalidation on non-model changes.
Disadvantages: tricky, triggers cache invalidation for changes not
related to tests

3) Hash the SQL generated for setup/fixtures. (step in right before the
SQL is sent to the database)
Advantages: No false-positives, simple
Disadvantages: Does not eliminate the need for SQL generation and
fixture parsing + model creation, so this might not be the "highest of
highs" ;-)

Jonas


 
You must Sign in before you can post messages.
To post a message you must first join this group.
Please update your nickname on the subscription settings page before posting.
You do not have the permission required to post.
Jeremy Dunck  
View profile  
 More options May 17 2011, 10:48 am
From: Jeremy Dunck <jdu...@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 17 May 2011 09:48:23 -0500
Local: Tues, May 17 2011 10:48 am
Subject: Re: Test optimizations (2-5x as fast)
On Tue, May 17, 2011 at 9:16 AM, Jonas H. <jo...@lophus.org> wrote:

....

> Invalidation is what I'm unsure about too -- multiple ideas came to my mind,
> all involving some sort of Great Hash(tm):

Even within a single test command run, the same DB setup and same
fixture loads are done many times (for a sizable suite).  Invalidating
too often is better than invalidating too little.

> 1) Use file modification timestamps for all model and test related files.
> Advantages: simple, works.
> Disadvantages: Triggers cache invalidation for changes not related to models
> or tests

I think this is a pretty big win, even though it's not theoretically optimal.

 
You must Sign in before you can post messages.
To post a message you must first join this group.
Please update your nickname on the subscription settings page before posting.
You do not have the permission required to post.
Ian Kelly  
View profile  
 More options May 17 2011, 10:52 am
From: Ian Kelly <ian.g.ke...@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 17 May 2011 08:52:39 -0600
Local: Tues, May 17 2011 10:52 am
Subject: Re: Test optimizations (2-5x as fast)

On Mon, May 16, 2011 at 10:12 PM, David Cramer <dcra...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Postgres requires resetting the sequences I believe. I just assume
> Oracle/MSSQL are probably similar.

Actually in the Oracle backend, resetting the sequence for an empty
table is currently a no-op for transactional reasons.

 
You must Sign in before you can post messages.
To post a message you must first join this group.
Please update your nickname on the subscription settings page before posting.
You do not have the permission required to post.
Ned Batchelder  
View profile  
 More options May 17 2011, 11:24 am
From: Ned Batchelder <n...@nedbatchelder.com>
Date: Tue, 17 May 2011 11:24:18 -0400
Local: Tues, May 17 2011 11:24 am
Subject: Re: Test optimizations (2-5x as fast)
On 5/17/2011 10:48 AM, Jeremy Dunck wrote:
> On Tue, May 17, 2011 at 9:16 AM, Jonas H.<jo...@lophus.org>  wrote:
> ....
>> Invalidation is what I'm unsure about too -- multiple ideas came to my mind,
>> all involving some sort of Great Hash(tm):
> Even within a single test command run, the same DB setup and same
> fixture loads are done many times (for a sizable suite).  Invalidating
> too often is better than invalidating too little.

>> 1) Use file modification timestamps for all model and test related files.
>> Advantages: simple, works.
>> Disadvantages: Triggers cache invalidation for changes not related to models
>> or tests
> I think this is a pretty big win, even though it's not theoretically optimal.

Maybe it wouldn't be so bad to punt on invalidation?  The cached
databases would only have to be rebuilt if the models changed or if the
fixtures changed, right?  We have a similar situation now with
migrations: you have to write one every time you change a model, and
there's no automatic mechanism that kicks in to tell you to write one,
you just have to know: "change a model, write a migration."  If that's
working now, then what's wrong with, "change a model or a fixture,
re-run the test database cacher."

--Ned.


 
You must Sign in before you can post messages.
To post a message you must first join this group.
Please update your nickname on the subscription settings page before posting.
You do not have the permission required to post.
Jeremy Dunck  
View profile  
 More options May 17 2011, 11:31 am
From: Jeremy Dunck <jdu...@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 17 May 2011 10:31:19 -0500
Local: Tues, May 17 2011 11:31 am
Subject: Re: Test optimizations (2-5x as fast)

On Tue, May 17, 2011 at 10:24 AM, Ned Batchelder <n...@nedbatchelder.com> wrote:
> Maybe it wouldn't be so bad to punt on invalidation?  The cached databases
> would only have to be rebuilt if the models changed or if the fixtures
> changed, right?  We have a similar situation now with migrations: you have
> to write one every time you change a model, and there's no automatic
> mechanism that kicks in to tell you to write one, you just have to know:
> "change a model, write a migration."  If that's working now, then what's
> wrong with, "change a model or a fixture, re-run the test database cacher."

The difference is, migrations can be merged.  Database cache is local
state.  No?

 
You must Sign in before you can post messages.
To post a message you must first join this group.
Please update your nickname on the subscription settings page before posting.
You do not have the permission required to post.
Ned Batchelder  
View profile  
 More options May 17 2011, 12:05 pm
From: Ned Batchelder <n...@nedbatchelder.com>
Date: Tue, 17 May 2011 12:05:31 -0400
Local: Tues, May 17 2011 12:05 pm
Subject: Re: Test optimizations (2-5x as fast)
On 5/17/2011 11:31 AM, Jeremy Dunck wrote:
> On Tue, May 17, 2011 at 10:24 AM, Ned Batchelder<n...@nedbatchelder.com>  wrote:
>> Maybe it wouldn't be so bad to punt on invalidation?  The cached databases
>> would only have to be rebuilt if the models changed or if the fixtures
>> changed, right?  We have a similar situation now with migrations: you have
>> to write one every time you change a model, and there's no automatic
>> mechanism that kicks in to tell you to write one, you just have to know:
>> "change a model, write a migration."  If that's working now, then what's
>> wrong with, "change a model or a fixture, re-run the test database cacher."
> The difference is, migrations can be merged.  Database cache is local
> state.  No?

Hmm, that's a good point.

--Ned.


 
You must Sign in before you can post messages.
To post a message you must first join this group.
Please update your nickname on the subscription settings page before posting.
You do not have the permission required to post.
Jonas H.  
View profile  
 More options May 17 2011, 1:59 pm
From: "Jonas H." <jo...@lophus.org>
Date: Tue, 17 May 2011 19:59:52 +0200
Local: Tues, May 17 2011 1:59 pm
Subject: Re: Test optimizations (2-5x as fast)
On 05/17/2011 04:48 PM, Jeremy Dunck wrote:

>> 1) Use file modification timestamps for all model and test related files.
>> Advantages: simple, works.
>> Disadvantages: Triggers cache invalidation for changes not related to models
>> or tests

> I think this is a pretty big win, even though it's not theoretically optimal.

Only for "does-it-still-work" sort of tests. Not for test-driven
development, because your models and tests change all the time.

 
You must Sign in before you can post messages.
To post a message you must first join this group.
Please update your nickname on the subscription settings page before posting.
You do not have the permission required to post.
Jeremy Dunck  
View profile  
 More options May 17 2011, 2:11 pm
From: Jeremy Dunck <jdu...@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 17 May 2011 13:11:37 -0500
Local: Tues, May 17 2011 2:11 pm
Subject: Re: Test optimizations (2-5x as fast)

On Tue, May 17, 2011 at 12:59 PM, Jonas H. <jo...@lophus.org> wrote:
> On 05/17/2011 04:48 PM, Jeremy Dunck wrote:

>>> 1) Use file modification timestamps for all model and test related files.
>>> Advantages: simple, works.
>>> Disadvantages: Triggers cache invalidation for changes not related to
>>> models
>>> or tests

>> I think this is a pretty big win, even though it's not theoretically
>> optimal.

> Only for "does-it-still-work" sort of tests. Not for test-driven
> development, because your models and tests change all the time.

Well, we're debating various ways to improve, and I'm saying, let's do
the simplest thing that will work to raise the chance that it'll
actually get done. :-)

I declare myself bike-shedding.  Given the 3 options, I'm:

+1 on #1
+0 on #2
-0 on #3


 
You must Sign in before you can post messages.
To post a message you must first join this group.
Please update your nickname on the subscription settings page before posting.
You do not have the permission required to post.
Erik Rose  
View profile   Translate to Translated (View Original)
 More options May 17 2011, 2:12 pm
From: Erik Rose <e...@mozilla.com>
Date: Tue, 17 May 2011 11:12:56 -0700
Local: Tues, May 17 2011 2:12 pm
Subject: Re: Test optimizations (2-5x as fast)

> I declare myself bike-shedding.  Given the 3 options, I'm:

> +1 on #1
> +0 on #2
> -0 on #3

Heh, I was just going to quietly sit here and do that while everybody else kept mailing. :-)

 
You must Sign in before you can post messages.
To post a message you must first join this group.
Please update your nickname on the subscription settings page before posting.
You do not have the permission required to post.
Erik Rose  
View profile   Translate to Translated (View Original)
 More options May 17 2011, 2:28 pm
From: Erik Rose <e...@mozilla.com>
Date: Tue, 17 May 2011 11:28:31 -0700
Local: Tues, May 17 2011 2:28 pm
Subject: Re: Test optimizations (2-5x as fast)

> I would be very happy to test this against Oracle database to see is how
> much patch improves speed since previously running tests against Oracle
> has been a real pain specially all db recreate stuff took a long long
> time.

Great! I'll post again to this thread when the patch is ready. Or, if you'd like to try it now, you can download https://github.com/jbalogh/test-utils and make your test classes subclass FastFixtureTestCase rather than TestCase.

 
You must Sign in before you can post messages.
To post a message you must first join this group.
Please update your nickname on the subscription settings page before posting.
You do not have the permission required to post.
Messages 1 - 25 of 37   Newer >
« Back to Discussions « Newer topic     Older topic »