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Gabrielle Dean

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Nov 5, 2009, 6:21:03 PM11/5/09
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Something to ponder from Pamela

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> From: "Pamela O'Cuneen" <pame...@btinternet.com>
> Date: 6 November 2009 1:51:10 AM
> To: "Gabrielle Dean" <gabby...@westnet.com.au>
> Subject: Re: Prophets and sacred space
>
> Dear Gabby, where does sacred space begin and end.? Is there any such
> thing as ' profane space ' really ? Love Pamela
>
>


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>> Richard Rohr in 'The Way of the Prophet' says, 'All transformation
>> takes place in sacred space', which I thinks also means that
>> transformation [of the soul] doesn't take place in profane space. He
>> seems to be saying that prophets are called into sacred space,
>> God-time, the 'eternal now' to be transformed and to be the agent of
>> transformation in others. He says that most prophets were not
>> full-time prophets all their lives, but were called at a particular
>> time for a particular set of events or issues. Then went back to
>> their sycamore trees.
>> But sacred space and its transformative possibilities are available
>> for all of us all the time.
>>
>
>

Gabrielle Dean

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Nov 6, 2009, 5:22:00 AM11/6/09
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I've been thinking about your observation all day Pamela (on and off).
I think that the sacred space is always there, but it's only on rare
occasions that I realise it. Bit like Jacob - 'I am standing on holy
ground and I did not know it." Richard Rohr says that after you
experience sacred space the present is dissatisfying, For him, he says
he can't even read a book, because after the experience any book is a
letdown. An example he used of sacred space was after a death. I would
include the early weeks of holding a newborn baby, either one's own or
someone else's - they seem to be a bridge between eternal and the
time-bound(or as Philip Newell puts it "the gift of time and eternity
intertwined", 'children of eternity are conceived in time'.
I think that sacred time is always there, but that most of the time I
and some others don't either notice it or enter it, and I think that's
what he means by profane time.

Kim Kemp

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Nov 7, 2009, 5:23:57 AM11/7/09
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 Rhonda,

Thank you for sharing your ‘piece’ (peace) with us............I think it says a  lot about who you are and what you are becoming...........so much opportunity for growth the longer we engage together and with the sacred in community .........in this place............

X Kim

 

 

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Subject: RE: Prophets and sacred space

 

Here's a little bit profane/a liitle bit sacred something I wrote today in honour of a young friend who I have struggled with and in honour of my own journey to understand him...
 


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Subject: Fwd: Prophets and sacred space
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Date: Fri, 6 Nov 2009 07:21:03 +0800


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